A major change in France's dealings with

[deziloooooo]

Israel..ending their boycott of military equipment from Israel that started by De Gaul decision.

I wonder how many younger posters here do not know much if anything about the man and how his decision to stop selling weapons to the State started the turning to the US as a ally and customer for military supplies so many years ago, and the build up of the States development of their own defense industry which is so formidable today, in almost all areas of these things.
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www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/france-to-buy-israeli-made-drones-ending-42-year-weapons-embargo-1.374991

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12:42 24.07.11


France to buy Israeli-made drones, ending 42-year weapons embargo

Israel's Aerospace Industry will sell France its largest and most sophisticated drone, the Eitan, four decades after President Charles de Gaulle banned weapons sales to Israel.
By Anshel Pfeffer

"The French Defense Ministry decided last week to purchase unmanned aerial vehicles from Israel, thereby bringing an end to a 42-year-old embargo on weapon purchases imposed by President Charles de Gaulle. The approved sale of Heron TP, or Eitan, will be the first time the drone is sold to a foreign country.

The Eitan is the largest and most sophisticated drone made in Israel. It is assembled by Israel Aerospace Industries, and went into operational service in the Israeli Air Force a year and a half ago. The Eitan has a wingspan of 26 meters – similar to that of a Boeing 737. It is capable of carrying out reconnaissance and intelligence missions in an altitude of up to 40,000 feet, and can remain airborne 36 hours. Eitan's large size allows it to carry a variety of equipment such as radars, sensors and camera, and, theoretically, missiles."

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Israel..ending their boycott of military equipment from Israel that started by De Gaul decision.

Two things going on here. 1. France probably wants this item.
2. France see's a chance to become a best friend to Israel since the U.S. stabbed them in the back.

[djAdvocate]

Jul 24, 2011 12:26:04 GMT -5 @oldtex said:

Israel..ending their boycott of military equipment from Israel that started by De Gaul decision.

Two things going on here. 1. France probably wants this item.
2. France see's a chance to become a best friend to Israel since the U.S. stabbed them in the back.

when did the US stab Israel in the back?

[billisonboard]

Jul 24, 2011 12:26:04 GMT -5 @oldtex said:

Israel..ending their boycott of military equipment from Israel that started by De Gaul decision.

Two things going on here. 1. France probably wants this item.
2. France see's a chance to become a best friend to Israel since the U.S. stabbed them in the back.

If France is their new BFF, does that mean that Israel will spy on them more now and leave us alone?

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when did the US stab Israel in the back?

You & I would never agree on it because President Obama is involved so I'll just pass on this one.

[djAdvocate]

Jul 24, 2011 15:23:10 GMT -5 @oldtex said:

when did the US stab Israel in the back?

You & I would never agree on it because President Obama is involved so I'll just pass on this one.

tex- i think that Obama's foreign policies are criminal. but i honestly don't know what you are talking about here.

if you want to vacate your claim, that is fine by me. or you can defend it. your choice.

[Mad Dawg Wiccan]

DJ, I'm not speaking for oldtex here but I believe he is referring to Obama wanting to adjust the Israeli border back to the pre-1967 conditions.

[ed1066]

Jul 24, 2011 20:55:13 GMT -5 Mad Dawg Wiccan said:

DJ, I'm not speaking for oldtex here but I believe he is referring to Obama wanting to adjust the Israeli border back to the pre-1967 conditions.

The average liberal has never heard that fact due to their media-induced blindness...

[handyman2]

I believe france is smelling serious trouble in the future and are aligning all the friends they can get. They are not buying expensive drones to show off at the Paris air show. They are well aware how the wind is blowing all over Europe.

[deziloooooo]

Jul 25, 2011 19:01:22 GMT -5 handyman2 said:

I believe france is smelling serious trouble in the future and are aligning all the friends they can get. They are not buying expensive drones to show off at the Paris air show. They are well aware how the wind is blowing all over Europe.

Actually I think as I said before above some where, the Israelis make a good product, actually the Russians are bying droans from them too, and both figure why spnd all that $ developing them when they can buy off the shelf...

[djAdvocate]

Jul 24, 2011 20:55:13 GMT -5 Mad Dawg Wiccan said:

DJ, I'm not speaking for oldtex here but I believe he is referring to Obama wanting to adjust the Israeli border back to the pre-1967 conditions.

i am not sure he actually said that. i think he said that they should be negotiated back to 1967 conditions "with adjustments", which would mean give and take on both sides. but i might be mistaken.

this is nothing new. this is pretty much the standard US position since Carter. whether it was articulated as publicly or not, i am not sure.

[djAdvocate]

Jul 25, 2011 18:54:59 GMT -5 @ed1066 said:

Jul 24, 2011 20:55:13 GMT -5 Mad Dawg Wiccan said:

DJ, I'm not speaking for oldtex here but I believe he is referring to Obama wanting to adjust the Israeli border back to the pre-1967 conditions.

The average liberal has never heard that fact due to their media-induced blindness...

or perhaps it is because he never actually said that. what he said was this:

"The borders of Israel and Palestine should be based on the 1967 lines with mutually agreed swaps, so that secure and recognized borders are established for both states,"

it is actually not that radical. but it is unusual to say it publicly, apparently.