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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jul 15, 2011 8:03:12 GMT -5
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Post by ugonow on Jul 15, 2011 8:15:52 GMT -5
You better hope this "any republican" wins the primaries.
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Post by privateinvestor on Jul 15, 2011 8:21:57 GMT -5
Any 'Republican' Now Leads Obama by 8 "any"..  I have a hard time believing Pawlenty or Ole Newtie would lead Obama in any polls...except possibly for Rasmussen who just polls conservatives or Fox Fans...  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2011 9:57:35 GMT -5
I know that I should use this post to dig at Democrats but I'm just not in the mood (probably not enough coffee). Last night as I was surfing the net I did notice there are were a lot of anti Obama links. Understand this wasn't on political sites, just sites in general. In one link list (again not a political site or one that is a conservative hang out) I saw 3 links to anti Obama posts & none for pro Obama.
On the one hand it makes me feel good (I look at President Obama as a socialist & believe he is the worst thing that's happened to this country since FDR started us down that path). On the other hand it truly bothers me that it seems to be the economy that I killing his chances of re election rather than his policies. It's like a lot of brave & great people risked everything to found this country & here it is being saved (our form of government) because the masses are worried about our economy. Kind of a bittersweet victory for me.
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Post by billisonboard on Jul 15, 2011 10:02:14 GMT -5
... Last night as I was surfing the net I did notice there are were a lot of anti Obama links. Understand this wasn't on political sites, just sites in general. In one link list (again not a political site or one that is a conservative hang out) I saw 3 links to anti Obama posts & none for pro Obama. ... Were these paid advertisements? |
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Post by privateinvestor on Jul 15, 2011 10:05:01 GMT -5
I know that I should use this post to dig at Democrats but I'm just not in the mood (probably not enough coffee). Last night as I was surfing the net I did notice there are were a lot of anti Obama links. Understand this wasn't on political sites, just sites in general. In one link list (again not a political site or one that is a conservative hang out) I saw 3 links to anti Obama posts & none for pro Obama. On the one hand it makes me feel good (I look at President Obama as a socialist & believe he is the worst thing that's happened to this country since FDR started us down that path). On the other hand it truly bothers me that it seems to be the economy that I killing his chances of re election rather than his policies. It's like a lot of brave & great people risked everything to found this country & here it is being saved (our form of government) because the masses are worried about our economy. Kind of a bittersweet victory for me. I noticed that as well because it seems even MSBC,ABC, CBS, and CNN are beginning to turn against Obama recently...they are showing how he voted against raising the debt ceiling when he was in the senate and also questioning some of his recent warnings about Social Security Checks or Medicare Payments. Also they have been comparing what Obama, Geithner and Bernanke have all said on the same issues... I guess my point is that Obama in under a microscope and even the Liberal Media are going after him if he flubs up or misstates the facts.. Anyhow that is my impression and I am far from a Political Expert or Liberal Elite Political Junkie...but one's old, old and I mean very old man's stated opinion which I understand is permissible here, I do believe? ?? |
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Post by djAdvocate on Jul 15, 2011 10:40:50 GMT -5
any Republican other than one who is running, that is.
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Post by billisonboard on Jul 15, 2011 10:52:57 GMT -5
any Republican other than one who is running, that is. Didn't we just have this discussion about "generic" candidates? |
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Post by privateinvestor on Jul 15, 2011 10:57:25 GMT -5
I am still waiting to find out who "ANY" Repub will be??? Romney??? Bachmann??? Or somebody else???
My preference for the Repub Candidate is General Patraeus but the chances of that happening are probably Zero but who knows he could be drafted by the RNC because of the weak republican field so far..IMHO
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Post by swamp on Jul 15, 2011 10:59:48 GMT -5
any Republican other than one who is running, that is. Didn't we just have this discussion about "generic" candidates? Yes. And frankly, it's a stupid question to ask in a poll. |
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Post by billisonboard on Jul 15, 2011 11:03:33 GMT -5
I am still waiting to find out who "ANY" Repub will be??? Romney??? Bachmann??? Or somebody else??? My preference for the Repub Candidate is General Patraeus but the chances of that happening are probably Zero but who knows he could be drafted by the RNC because of the weak republican field so far..IMHO No doubt General Patraeus would be a strong leader. Any idea where he would lead us? |
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Post by privateinvestor on Jul 15, 2011 11:06:07 GMT -5
I am still waiting to find out who "ANY" Repub will be??? Romney??? Bachmann??? Or somebody else??? My preference for the Repub Candidate is General Patraeus but the chances of that happening are probably Zero but who knows he could be drafted by the RNC because of the weak republican field so far..IMHO No doubt General Patraeus would be a strong leader. Any idea where he would lead us? Then do some research about the General and let us all know...you do know how to research don't you?? |
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Post by billisonboard on Jul 15, 2011 11:11:44 GMT -5
No doubt General Patraeus would be a strong leader. Any idea where he would lead us? Then do some research about the General and let us all know...you do know how to research don't you?? I did and found nothing on his views of abortion, immigration, the EPA, Supreme Court nominees, and off shore drilling. I stopped there. |
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Post by privateinvestor on Jul 15, 2011 11:15:08 GMT -5
Then do some research about the General and let us all know...you do know how to research don't you?? I did and found nothing on his views of abortion, immigration, the EPA, Supreme Court nominees, and off shore drilling. I stopped there. Ok but how about giving it another try....you have to know how we all love to read your research try wiki or the usmilitary.com as a starting point ...and pls be accurate and truthful with your research |
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Post by billisonboard on Jul 15, 2011 11:20:21 GMT -5
I did and found nothing on his views of abortion, immigration, the EPA, Supreme Court nominees, and off shore drilling. I stopped there. Ok but how about giving it another try....you have to know how we all love to read your research try wiki or the usmilitary.com as a starting point ...and pls be accurate and truthful with your research Not interested in spending more time on your hypothetical candidate. I will wait for him to be drafted and then he will be in the position to make it clear where he stands on all of the issues that would come before the POTUS. |
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Post by privateinvestor on Jul 15, 2011 11:21:44 GMT -5
Ok but how about giving it another try....you have to know how we all love to read your research try wiki or the usmilitary.com as a starting point ...and pls be accurate and truthful with your research Not interested in spending more time on your hypothetical candidate. I will wait for him to be drafted and then he will be in the position to make it clear where he stands on all of the issues that would come before the POTUS. Ok I can deal with it... |
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Post by Angel! on Jul 15, 2011 11:26:04 GMT -5
Didn't we just have this discussion about "generic" candidates? Yes. And frankly, it's a stupid question to ask in a poll. No kidding. I would vote for a theoretical "any republican" if they met what I wanted in a candidate. Unfortunately all the real republicans likely to win the nomination don't fit what I am looking for so Obama will almost certainly get my vote. |
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Post by ed1066 on Jul 15, 2011 11:53:32 GMT -5
Then do some research about the General and let us all know...you do know how to research don't you?? I did and found nothing on his views of abortion, immigration, the EPA, Supreme Court nominees, and off shore drilling. I stopped there. Do you know what Obama's views on those issues are? |
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Post by billisonboard on Jul 15, 2011 11:55:35 GMT -5
I did and found nothing on his views of abortion, immigration, the EPA, Supreme Court nominees, and off shore drilling. I stopped there. Do you know what Obama's views on those issues are? Yes (including that he is less than consistent on some of them). |
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Post by ed1066 on Jul 15, 2011 12:01:15 GMT -5
Do you know what Obama's views on those issues are? Yes (including that he is less than consistent on some of them). Less than consistent? Is that the liberal term for campaign lies? |
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Post by swamp on Jul 15, 2011 12:02:17 GMT -5
Yes (including that he is less than consistent on some of them). Less than consistent? Is that the liberal term for campaign lies? fixed. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2011 12:15:49 GMT -5
Were these paid advertisements?
I'm sure there were all all of the sites that I went to. Maybe you have a point & there is a lot of Anti Obama money being spent. That too would be interesting.
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Post by floridayankee on Jul 15, 2011 13:06:12 GMT -5
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jul 15, 2011 13:19:40 GMT -5
Any 'Republican' Now Leads Obama by 8 "any".. I have a hard time believing Pawlenty or Ole Newtie would lead Obama in any polls...except possibly for Rasmussen who just polls conservatives or Fox Fans... I keep hearing that Rasmussen is "conservative", and that may be true; but what pollsters care about is being right. That's their bread and butter. You should note that Rasmussen was almost exactly right calling the 2008 election for Obama. They are one of the most accurate polling organizations out there. |
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Post by djAdvocate on Jul 15, 2011 14:16:27 GMT -5
Any 'Republican' Now Leads Obama by 8 "any".. I have a hard time believing Pawlenty or Ole Newtie would lead Obama in any polls...except possibly for Rasmussen who just polls conservatives or Fox Fans... I keep hearing that Rasmussen is "conservative", and that may be true; but what pollsters care about is being right. i would argue that something changed at Rasmussen in 2009. prior to that point, they reported approval the same way as every other news agency. ever since 1/1/09, however, they adopted a new way of doing it: strongly disapprove and strongly approve, and eliminate everyone else, including the "no opinions". this slanted the numbers in such a way that they are a ALWAYS 10% less than any other report. this has made them extremely popular with right wing bloggers, and it has made moderates and liberals ignore them. i don't think that has anything to do with being correct. i think that has to do with selling their product. |
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Post by privateinvestor on Jul 15, 2011 14:35:02 GMT -5
Majority of Republicans Can't Name a 2012 Favorite Romney, Bachmann most often mentioned by those with a preference by Jeffrey M. Jones PRINCETON, NJ -- More than half of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents, 58%, do not express a preference when asked in an open-ended format -- with no candidates' names read -- whom they are most likely to support for the party's 2012 presidential nomination. Those who do have a preference most often mention Mitt Romney and Michele Bachmann. Jul 7 - Jul 10 Generic Ballot** 47%Vote ForThe GOP Candidate39%Vote ForBarack Obama www.gallup.com/home.aspx |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2011 14:59:45 GMT -5
any Republican other than one who is running, that is.
Didn't we just have this discussion about "generic" candidates?
Yes. And frankly, it's a stupid question to ask in a poll.
I think that it depends on what your really asking as to if it's a stupid question or not. The question is great if your asking if a person would vote against President Obama (thus voting for anyone that ran against him).
The answer that you get asking both of those questions is the answer to: Just how dissatisfied are you with the current president of the U.S.? The answer is that most people would vote against President Obama. I've said much the same thing myself because I will vote for ANYONE who runs against President Obama (Yes, I was the one that said he would vote for carrot top rather than President Obama). That's because I will never vote for socialism or anybody who's agenda is one of socialism.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jul 15, 2011 15:12:34 GMT -5
any Republican other than one who is running, that is.
Didn't we just have this discussion about "generic" candidates?
Yes. And frankly, it's a stupid question to ask in a poll. I think that it depends on what your really asking as to if it's a stupid question or not. The question is great if your asking if a person would vote against President Obama (thus voting for anyone that ran against him). the problem with "any Republican" is that it doesn't answer that question. what question it actually answers is if a person would CONSIDER voting for another candidate. i think we can both agree that this is quite a different question, and not as meaningful of one. as another poster pointed out, when you insert ANY name into that question, the numbers are almost exactly the opposite of the ones in the "any" question. |
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Post by privateinvestor on Jul 15, 2011 15:19:03 GMT -5
Yea but no matter what the polls show Obama looks like a loser...so guess what??? You have to deal with it.... BTW I watched Obama's press conference today and without any notes or TelePrompTer he took some tough questions from an angry Washington DC press corp and really didn't add much at all to the nervousness in the country.. Or I guess you would be hard pressed to say Obama inspires any confidence in his leadership as our country faces a financial meltdown...so we have a few more days for him to turn this situation around and I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt but we don't have much choice since he is the leader of this country...I guess?? Or is he really?? |
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Post by djAdvocate on Jul 15, 2011 15:33:12 GMT -5
Yea but no matter what the polls show Obama looks like a loser...so guess what??? You have to deal with it.... why would i have to deal with that? i voted for Ron Paul in the primary, and third party in the GE. |
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