Ìllegals Cost Californian Hospitals More Than 1$B.

[privateinvestor]

According to the California Hospital Association (CHA), illegal aliens cost hospitals across the state about $1.25 billion a year in unpaid medical care.

The CHA recently stated that $26 million of those costs are absorbed in the eight hospitals in Ventura County alone.

The American Hospital Association (AHA) is asking the Obama administration to compensate hospitals for the care they extend to the millions foreign nationals living in this country illegally.

In June, AHA President Richard Umbdenstock sent a letter to President Obama, reminding him that while federal law requires hospitals to provide emergency care to every patient who walks through the doors, those hospitals are now forced to eat the costs of treating uninsured illegal aliens.

Umbdenstock wrote that the Federal Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act mandates treatment of the unisured “yet federal support for hospitals providing these services to the undocumented population is virtually nonexistent. Many hospitals have had to curtail services, delay implementing services or close beds.”

He continued: “Hospitals should not have to bear the burden.”

U.S. Rep. Dana Rohrabacher (R-CA) has fought for tougher immigration enforcement for many years, and recently told the Ventura County Star: “When you see $5 aspirin, it’s not $5 aspirin, it’s not corruption, it’s the hospital trying to take care of the illegal alien who didn’t have insurance.”


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[❤ mollymouser ❤]

Wow.

[handyman2]

just take 25% of that per the other states and add that to the total and you are talking serious money. Don't for get that the OBAMA healthcare plan does not include that in it's costs that would be on top of the healthcare plan.
The law says that if a hospital has an emergency room they must take anyone who walks through the door whether they can or will pay or not.
What you may see is private held hospitals doing away with emergency rooms leaving the burden on the public hospitals. I know of two that have done this already and went to doctor referral and specialist doctors.

[BeenThere...DoneThat...]

[ugonow]

You mean to say the "Everyone in the US has Healthcare,Just Use The Emergency Room Plan" is not as great as all that after all? I think everyone having tohave insurance of some sort ,[illegals inelegible for any government subsidised programs],and being required to show proof of it before recieving treatment might help this problem.

[Value Buy]

I believe every state in the Union should send a bill to the Mexican Consulate (and Guatemalen, etc)
and copy Congress with the same bill for any and all costs, including foodstamps, etc.
Then all costs are removed from any aid package to that country for all medical costs and refunded to the billing state.
Problem solved.

[ugonow]

believe every state in the Union should send a bill to the Mexican Consulate (and Guatemalen, etc)
and copy Congress with the same bill for any and all costs, including foodstamps, etc.
Then all costs are removed from any aid package to that country for all medical costs and refunded to the billing state.
Problem solved.

Why not take some personal responsibility instead and admit we [both parties] are not serious about the problem, and continue to entice them here with free healthcare,schooling,jobs,etc?

[Deleted]

Illegals Cost Californian Hospitals More Than

Now now that can't be true. I have it on good authority that illegals cost nothing & actually are good for this countries economy because they produce, pay, & never collect anything in any way. So them actually being a drain on the system just couldn't happen (much like them being illegal & collecting welfare couldn't happen).

[ugonow]

Now now that can't be true. I have it on good authority that illegals cost nothing & actually are good for this countries economy because they produce, pay, & never collect anything in any way. So them actually being a drain on the system just couldn't happen (much like them being illegal & collecting welfare couldn't happen). And the Everyone In The US Has Healthcare,Just Use The ER Plan is free.I suspect the author is a liar.

[Mkitty is pro kitty]

"House Republicans Trim Border Security Budget, Despite Calls for More Resources"
abcnews.go.com/Politics/house-republicans-trim-border-security-budget-calls-resources/story?id=12965031

"When it comes to border security, House Republicans have been outspoken and unambiguous.

They say more resources are needed to stop illegal flows of immigrants, drugs and weapons entering the U.S., and insist the Obama administration has not acted aggressively enough to bolster border security.

"The President's budget proves once again that the Obama administration is not serious about enforcing our nation's immigration laws," said Texas Rep. Lamar Smith earlier this month. "By underfunding key national security programs, we leave ourselves vulnerable to future terrorist attacks."

But even as GOP lawmakers demand tighter border enforcement as a prerequisite for comprehensive immigration reform legislation, Republicans in the House have approved a 2012 budget that seems to undermine that goal."

Oh, who needs all those wasteful programs, right? So you wanna pay some now or pay more later?

Don't for get that the OBAMA healthcare plan does not include that in it's costs that would be on top of the healthcare plan.

Maybe in your diet of whine and cheese, a little less waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah Obaaaaaaaaaama is in order.

[privateinvestor]

Jul 12, 2011 9:42:18 GMT -5 Mkitty is pro kitty said:

"House Republicans Trim Border Security Budget, Despite Calls for More Resources"
abcnews.go.com/Politics/house-republicans-trim-border-security-budget-calls-resources/story?id=12965031

"When it comes to border security, House Republicans have been outspoken and unambiguous.

They say more resources are needed to stop illegal flows of immigrants, drugs and weapons entering the U.S., and insist the Obama administration has not acted aggressively enough to bolster border security.

"The President's budget proves once again that the Obama administration is not serious about enforcing our nation's immigration laws," said Texas Rep. Lamar Smith earlier this month. "By underfunding key national security programs, we leave ourselves vulnerable to future terrorist attacks."

But even as GOP lawmakers demand tighter border enforcement as a prerequisite for comprehensive immigration reform legislation, Republicans in the House have approved a 2012 budget that seems to undermine that goal."

Oh, who needs all those wasteful programs, right? So you wanna pay some now or pay more later?

Don't for get that the OBAMA healthcare plan does not include that in it's costs that would be on top of the healthcare plan.

Maybe in your diet of whine and cheese, a little less waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah Obaaaaaaaaaama is in order.

Ok with that being said what are your ideas about resolving this issue???


And as you know other states in addition to CA have this problem so give us some of your thoughts about what can be done...

[ugonow]

Contrary to media reports,this is not some new problem tha cropped up when Obama was elected.Arizona fought with Bush to get funds for border security before anyone even heard of Brewer. The gov even called a State Of Emergency to try to get Bush's attention to the problem.She was accused by many republicans of grandstanding and playing politics. JMO, but until someone has the guts to cut the incentives we give them to cross illegally, they will cross,no matter how much money we throw at the problem.

[Mkitty is pro kitty]

Ok with that being said what are your ideas about resolving this issue???

Take troops out of Europe and where we're "at war" and put them somewhere around the border. Even if an illegal alien isn't caught, having hundreds of troops there would help the local economy, so there's really not much to lose.

If someone is caught hiring them, make the fines so prohibitive they won't want to do it. Maybe some public shaming too.

We might have to accept higher costs of certain things like fruit. I have mixed feelings about letting them pick fruit in season and leave, but that's better than them staying.

[Deleted]

And the Everyone In The US Has Health care,Just Use The ER Plan is free.I suspect the author is a liar.

Now now that can't be true. I have it on good authority that illegals cost nothing & actually are good for this countries economy because they produce, pay, & never collect anything in any way. So them actually being a drain on the system just couldn't happen (much like them being illegal & collecting welfare couldn't happen).

I don't believe that they are truly "liars". I tend to think (& hope) that it's more of a "look at the world thru rose colored glasses" thing mixed in with not a lot of commen sense & a lack of math skills. Now others may feel that they lie but I'm not ready to throw in the towel on a large number of Americans & just assume that they want to end our present form of government just because they are greedy.

[handyman2]

Well as an example as to the effects of free care of illegals just ask Grady public hospital in Atlanta. One of the biggest hospitals in the south. Due to the high cost of Dialysis treatments for non-paying illegals they had to close the unit and now those who needed treatment are refered to private clinics. The hospital even offered to buy plane tickets for illegals to go home and get treatment. That was how bad the situation became.

[privateinvestor]

Jul 12, 2011 11:07:01 GMT -5 Mkitty is pro kitty said:

Ok with that being said what are your ideas about resolving this issue???

Take troops out of Europe and where we're "at war" and put them somewhere around the border. Even if an illegal alien isn't caught, having hundreds of troops there would help the local economy, so there's really not much to lose.

If someone is caught hiring them, make the fines so prohibitive they won't want to do it. Maybe some public shaming too.

We might have to accept higher costs of certain things like fruit. I have mixed feelings about letting them pick fruit in season and leave, but that's better than them staying.

Ok but don't we need an immigration policy that approves the use of our military to guard our southern borders??

We debated the use of the military for border security before and some active duty military guys said that the military cannot do that unless the Governors of these borders states request their assistance. So far the governors have been reluctant because of the lack of an immigration policy that gives them the authorization to do so...this was about two years ago so I am not sure if anything has changed except Michell Malkin has been pushing for more military assets along our border on Fox News who supports her idea. I wrote Michell Malkin an email and listed the disadvantages of using the military as border guards and she did respond but doubt that I changed her mind.

[zibazinski]

Ca could take steps just like other states do but they are too chicken so they won't.