Creeping Shriah Law. Where is the media oversight

[henryclay]

The United West found the Muslim Brotherhood has infiltrated the L.A. Sheriff's department and holds sway within its Muslim Community Affairs Unit, a unit unique within the Sheriff's department. There is no other unit for Christians, Jews, etc.

Did I read the article correctly? Has the LA County Sheriff's office dedicated $128,000 in taxpayer money to a muslim outreach program? If so, has there been similar funding given to any other religious outreach programs? Christians? Hindus? Jews? Apparently not. And so, is there a question of the LA County Sheriff's office favoring one religion over other religions, and if so, does it fit within the framework of the U. S. Constitution regarding any religions at all? Worse, did I read that the meeting was held in a muslim setting? If they were going to have the "meeting", why not have it at City Hall, and why not have all religions represented? Could it be that there is a Shariah skunk in this woodpile?

Saturday, July 9, 2011
Busted! L.A. Sheriff Leroy Baca - Muslim Favoritism
The Florida based non-profit organization The United West sent a team to California to attend a town hall meeting hosted by L.A. Sheriff Leroy Baca. The town hall meeting was an outreach to the Muslim community. Alan Kornman, from The United West, was there to ask some simple questions about using federal tax dollars to support Muslim outreach. The questioning revolved around two concepts under the U.S. Constitution. The first is equal protection under that law. The second is the federal government cannot favor one religious groups over another (the Establishment Clause).

The questioning by Alan was direct, insightful and caught the Sheriff's department, the Muslim Community Affairs Unit Commander and the U.S. Attorney in a problematic situation. It appears that over $128,000 of public money is being used to support one religious group over another via the Muslim Community Affairs Unit.

The United West found the Muslim Brotherhood has infiltrated the L.A. Sheriff's department and holds sway within its Muslim Community Affairs Unit, a unit unique within the Sheriff's department. There is no other unit for Christians, Jews, etc. This is akin to Sheriff Baca having an Italian Community Outreach Unit, which defers to members of the Mafia because of they are predominately white Italians who are Catholic.

fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2011/07/09/la-sheriff-leroy-baca-busted/

And did I read that one of the muslim principals is a graduate of the muslim brotherhood founder's school, one Hassan al Banna? Why, bust my rivets, I believe I did.

www.atvsat.net/en/articles/852-baca-downing-sheriff-lapd-praise-support-muslim-brotherhood.html

[handyman2]

OOPS: That could cause a lot of trouble in LA. Do I hear recall of the sheriff or a court case?

[henryclay]

I believe there will be a discussion at the July 29th Board of Supervisors meeting on it.

If they can get it on the agenda, that is.

[billisonboard]

Public trust policing is the use of police resources in a manner that includes the public’s participation in the mission of public safety. The purpose of public trust policing is to provide a higher level of public safety. It is incumbent upon law enforcement to recognize that without the full faith and cooperation of the public, the mission of public safety is severely impaired. The process of public trust policing involves moving from what was generally known as a closed system to an inclusive and open system of public participation in the public safety mission.

With that in mind, Sheriff Baca initiated a Muslim Outreach program to better address current issues facing the Muslim community such as hate crimes, discrimination, etc.

The Muslim Community Affairs unit was established in August 2007 under the direction of Sheriff Baca with the purpose of developing an outreach program for the Muslim Community in Los Angeles County, and to compliment the efforts of the Muslim American Homeland Security Congress which was also created by Sheriff Baca in July 2005. la-sheriff.org/sites/muslimoutreach_new/about.html

Sounds like a good program targeting a sub-culture in the county which is of concern at this point in time.

[henryclay]

to compliment the efforts of the Muslim American Homeland Security Congress which was also created by Sheriff Baca in July 2005.

Nothing like creating your own little empire to beat your own drums. I wonder if the muslim brotherhood convicted felon from the Sheriff's own jail is playing a prominent part.

I also wonder if any women can attend any of their "meetings", and if they can get beyond THAT hurdle, can they come dressed as an American, or do they have to wear a sheet?

And it would help if you'd edit your cuts and pastes so as to remove all the double entries.

[Deleted]

What i really hate is when your underwear creep up on you... that can be very disturbing... especially in public, when you have to decide if you do something about it... and risk censure... or just live with it... and risk injury... It can be a serious problem...

[henryclay]

risk injury? Not under a sheet. But I'd be wondering if they were fixing the problem or if they were pulling the pin on a grenade. And I wouldn't have much time to find a place to hide in either case.

But , , , it's women after all,. I don't know much about muslim women and which hand they use for what. I only know the men don't eat with their right hand, and that's the one they use for "everything else".

[cereb]

Jul 9, 2011 19:23:59 GMT -5 oped said:

What i really hate is when your underwear creep up on you... that can be very disturbing... especially in public, when you have to decide if you do something about it... and risk censure... or just live with it... and risk injury.. ;. It can be a serious problem...

;D

[billisonboard]

Jul 9, 2011 19:21:23 GMT -5 henryclay said:

to compliment the efforts of the Muslim American Homeland Security Congress which was also created by Sheriff Baca in July 2005.

Nothing like creating your own little empire to beat your own drums. I wonder if the muslim brotherhood convicted felon from the Sheriff's own jail is playing a prominent part.

I also wonder if any women can attend any of their "meetings", and if they can get beyond THAT hurdle, can they come dressed as an American, or do they have to wear a sheet?

And it would help if you'd edit your cuts and pastes so as to remove all the double entries.

Thanks for pointing out my posting error. Fixed it.


la-sheriff.org/sites/muslimoutreach_new/about.html

Well, it looks like they did get beyond THAT. And look, no sheets. Instead very nice conservative looking dress.

[mmhmm]

Jul 9, 2011 19:27:56 GMT -5 henryclay said:

risk injury? Not under a sheet. But I'd be wondering if they were fixing the problem or if they were pulling the pin on a grenade. And I wouldn't have much time to find a place to hide in either case.

But , , , it's women after all,. I don't know much about muslim women and which hand they use for what. I only know the men don't eat with their right hand, and that's the one they use for "everything else".

Wrong. Muslims eat ONLY with their right hand, never with the left.

[Virgil Showlion]

I'm sure the ACLU will be all over this.





(No seriously, I'm trying to keep a straight face here.)

[henryclay]

Muslims eat ONLY with their right hand, never with the left.

Whatever, but I guess that says they can pull the pin on a grenade with the "other" hand just about as well, too. Is that the way you mean it?

[cme1201]

Jul 9, 2011 19:59:08 GMT -5 Virgil Showlion said:

I'm sure the ACLU will be all over this.





(No seriously, I'm trying to keep a straight face here.)

You need to try harder

[swamp]

Don't most large urban police departments have outreach programs for the African-American and Latino citizens?

[cereb]

Jul 9, 2011 20:00:47 GMT -5 henryclay said:

Muslims eat ONLY with their right hand, never with the left.

Whatever, but I guess that says they can pull the pin on a grenade with the "other" hand just about as well, too. Is that the way you mean it?

Your doing it again Henry. Stop or you'll go blind. Just sayin...

[henryclay]

swamp said:

Don't most large urban police departments have outreach programs for the African-American and Latino citizens?

Maybe, and we are not a large urban anything, but we have some outreach programs: at risk young people, (drop outs, abusive home life and such, spouses with abusive mates, disaster victims, (fires, storms, floods, deaths, even job loss), but they are not oriented to religion. As I read the Sheriff Baca entanglement, everything about his program has MUSLIM RELIGION ONLY written all over it.

cereb said:, , , , well, cereb's bait has a bad odor about it, so it will just be noted and passed up.

[cereb]

Oh c'mon Henry, I was just trying to point out to you in my own lighthearted way that painting others with a broad brush isn't right. All Muslims are not terrorists. You know that. I work with a young woman, her name is Sara. She is beautiful, kind, smart and hard working. She has been in the US her entire life. She was born here. She loves this country, and wants to raise her children here someday. She is a Muslim. These people have names, families, moms and dads, sons and daughters. They are human beings. Terrorists are a different class of something else.

[mmhmm]

Jul 9, 2011 20:00:47 GMT -5 henryclay said:

Muslims eat ONLY with their right hand, never with the left.

Whatever, but I guess that says they can pull the pin on a grenade with the "other" hand just about as well, too. Is that the way you mean it?

There was no hidden meaning in my statement, Henry. You posted an error. I corrected that error. It's that simple.

[fairlycrazy23]

Looks like a fairly clear violation of the 1st amendment. Government spending money on "outreaching" to Muslims while not spending money to outreach other religions seems like this particular government agency is clearly favoring one particular religion over others.

[djAdvocate]

Jul 10, 2011 12:44:26 GMT -5 fairlycrazy23 said:

Looks like a fairly clear violation of the 1st amendment. Government spending money on "outreaching" to Muslims while not spending money to outreach other religions seems like this particular government agency is clearly favoring one particular religion over others.

community outreach has been tested many times and found constitutional.

[fairlycrazy23]

Jul 10, 2011 12:46:01 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Jul 10, 2011 12:44:26 GMT -5 fairlycrazy23 said:

Looks like a fairly clear violation of the 1st amendment. Government spending money on "outreaching" to Muslims while not spending money to outreach other religions seems like this particular government agency is clearly favoring one particular religion over others.

community outreach has been tested many times and found constitutional.

I would like to review a few of those many cases, it seems very inconsistent with other decisions, favoring one religion over all others seems extremely clear cut

[djAdvocate]

Jul 10, 2011 14:17:50 GMT -5 fairlycrazy23 said:

Jul 10, 2011 12:46:01 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

community outreach has been tested many times and found constitutional.

I would like to review a few of those many cases, it seems very inconsistent with other decisions, favoring one religion over all others seems extremely clear cut

be my guest.

while you are at it, review Faith Based Funding.

[zipity]

can they come dressed as an American, or do they have to wear a sheet?

You tell 'em Henry, nothing worse than Muslim women dressing up like Catholic nuns.

[henryclay]

Yeah, I know zip. Absurdity does have its own place after all, doesn't it?

[Mkitty is pro kitty]

Creeping Shriah Law

The United West found the Muslim Brotherhood has infiltrated the L.A. Sheriff's department and holds sway within its Muslim Community Affairs Unit

Wow, even sheriffs are passing legislation, I guess. (Well, they ARE the law). Since we're in Sillyville, does that Shariah Law go "creeping" around, making that cartoon tinky piano noise while it sneaks around at night , getting itself passed by sneaking pens into sleeping sheriffs' hands and having them sleep-sign them or something?

[Shirina]

Creeping Shariah Law? Whatever happened to creeping socialism? I suppose if you affix the word "creeping" before a noun, that noun becomes much more terrifying. A creeping spider is much more frightening than just a spider, for it implies a nefarious element to the noun's actions.

All I see is a lot of creeping creepy obsessions.

[ed1066]

All I see is a lot of creeping creepy obsessions

That's hilariously ironic coming from a charter member of the Palin/Bachmann Stalking Club...

[Mkitty is pro kitty]

That's hilariously ironic coming from a charter member of the Palin/Bachmann Stalking Club...

Prove it. Or are you laughing at imaginary things again? You know, all your "psychic friends" claims involving liberals and/or liberal posters?

[zipity]

I suppose if you affix the word "creeping" before a noun, that noun becomes much more terrifying.

I don't know, "Republican" vs "Creeping Republican", doesn't seem to make the noun any more terrifying but it certainly is more appropriate.

[ed1066]

Jul 12, 2011 10:55:56 GMT -5 Mkitty is pro kitty said:

That's hilariously ironic coming from a charter member of the Palin/Bachmann Stalking Club...

Prove it. Or are you laughing at imaginary things again? You know, all your "psychic friends" claims involving liberals and/or liberal posters?

Oops, you posted with the wrong nic. Or are you just sticking up for "Shirina"?