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Post by ed1066 on Jul 7, 2011 11:33:28 GMT -5
I don't even know what to say about this one, except that it didn't surprise me at all... www.theblaze.com/stories/update-homeland-security-dept-now-claims-israel-was-erroneously-included-on-terror-list/Last week, The Blaze reported on Israel’s placement on a terror watch list assembled by the United States government. Now, the U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) has acknowledged that this selection was made based on “inaccurate information.” According to John Morton, who serves as the director of the department’s U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) division, Israel, a key U.S. ally, was erroneously placed on the DHS list. The nation‘s surprise inclusion appeared in a May 2011 report from ICE’s inspector general. JTA has more:
“The addition of Israel in the OIG’s list of ICE‘s ’Third-Agency Checks’ (TAC) was based on inaccurate information provided to the OIG during the course of its audit,” Morton said in a statement sent by e-mail to JTA.
“The U.S. does not and never has considered Israel to have links to terrorism, but rather they are a partner in our efforts to combat global terrorism. The United States maintains close intelligence-sharing relationships with Israel in order to address security issues within its own borders and in our mutual pursuit of safety and security around the globe.”
This list, which includes 36 nations, does not target government policies as the catalyst for inclusion. Rather, it looks at the likelihood that a traveler from a specific country might have terrorist ties. If a traveler from one of the listed nations is detained, that country’s presence on the list will spawn a special check by ICE (called a Third Agency Check or TAC).
Last week, CNS News first reported about Israel’s inclusion on this list and further explained the purpose of the TAC screening:
“In addition to the Terrorist Watchlist screening, ICE uses a Third Agency Check (TAC) to screen aliens from specially designated countries (SDCs) that have shown a tendency to promote, produce, or protect terrorist organizations or their members,” says the inspector general’s report.
Interestingly, when previously asked by CNS News to clarify who put Israel on the list or when the nation was added, ICE declined. But, one spokesperson claims that the list was created seven years ago and that ICE did not choose the nations for inclusion. This, if true, would mean that it was created during the presidency of George W. Bush. Below, see the list that is presented (including Israel) in the inspector general’s report:
With one spokesperson declining to explain how Israel made its way onto the list and with the director of ICE later contending that the inclusion was an error, the situation is certainly intriguing. One wonders if Israel was purposefully included, but then removed due to fear over the public’s reaction to such a designation. Either way, Israeli citizens who are detained no longer qualify for special TAC searches.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jul 7, 2011 12:08:31 GMT -5
CNS News?
you mean Cyber News Service?
those guys are so disreputable that i should not even comment further.
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Post by ed1066 on Jul 7, 2011 12:14:41 GMT -5
CNS News? you mean Cyber News Service? those guys are so disreputable that i should not even comment further. Are you saying this didn't happen?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2011 12:16:06 GMT -5
The Jews have been the most oppressed people in the history of humanity. They need to remember this particularity egregious act of oppression with a holiday.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jul 7, 2011 12:17:45 GMT -5
CNS News? you mean Cyber News Service? those guys are so disreputable that i should not even comment further. Are you saying this didn't happen? nope. i am saying that a blog commenting on a story by a disreputable news organization is worthy only of further examination, not of comment. for the record, if the story is true, i would find it amusing. but by the same standard the US should also be on the terrorist list. that would be even more amusing.
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Post by ed1066 on Jul 7, 2011 12:24:09 GMT -5
What do you consider a "reputable" news organization?
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Post by billisonboard on Jul 7, 2011 12:25:00 GMT -5
Let me see if I can condense this story down accurately: A mistake was made and corrected. Did I get it right? Did I miss anything significant? btw,
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Post by djAdvocate on Jul 7, 2011 12:31:39 GMT -5
What do you consider a "reputable" news organization? ed- CNS would give LittleGreenFootballs a run for their money on most days. they have no interest whatsoever in facts. they have a gospel to spread, and they will ignore all facts in order to spread it. they hate the media, and anyone that does not share their right wing zeal. they are no better in their way than Socialist Worker Daily. just about any news organization is MORE reputable than CNS. i would ENTERTAIN a story from National Review. they get it right about as often as anyone else. i will not even consider one from CNS. to answer you question bluntly i don't think any single news source is 100% reliable. but i think that CNS is about as far from 100% as one can get.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jul 7, 2011 12:33:05 GMT -5
Let me see if I can condense this story down accurately: A mistake was made and corrected. Did I get it right? Did I miss anything significant? btw, other than the fact that this might be a false report, no.
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Post by txbo on Jul 7, 2011 13:43:30 GMT -5
This is very possible since Israel is spying on the U.S., and its a matter of public record, and neither conspiracy nor theory is needed to present the evidence. When the FBI produces its annual report to Congress concerning "Foreign Economic Collection and Industrial Espionage," Israel and its intelligence services often feature prominently as a threat second only to China. In 2005 the FBI noted, for example, that Israel maintains "an active program to gather proprietary information within the United States."
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Post by floridayankee on Jul 7, 2011 13:59:35 GMT -5
This is very possible since Israel is spying on the U.S., Spying does not equate to terrorism.
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Post by ed1066 on Jul 7, 2011 14:03:05 GMT -5
This is very possible since Israel is spying on the U.S., Spying does not equate to terrorism. Only if the perpetrator is Israel. Remember, they're "special" to the left wing...
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Post by djAdvocate on Jul 7, 2011 14:11:16 GMT -5
Spying does not equate to terrorism. Only if the perpetrator is Israel. Remember, they're "special" to the left wing... i don't know how much the left are really even engaged with this debate, ed. if they ARE engaged, then they are really nothing to worry about, since US policy is virtually unchanged toward Israel has been pretty much monolithic for half a century.
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Post by txbo on Jul 7, 2011 14:12:37 GMT -5
Spying does not equate to terrorism. Only if the perpetrator is Israel. Remember, they're "special" to the left wing... It is if the proprietary info is stolen from the company that paid for the development of it. By the way this is a right wing stance the left would freely give it away. Israel “The spies who love us”.
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