deziloooooo
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Post by deziloooooo on Jul 6, 2011 11:59:24 GMT -5
For most of us , I believe, the political situation in Iran seems to be a confusing mish mash of trying to figure out who is really in power. There is the President with the to long name, who seems to be the one in charge, the one setting the policy , their , Iran's, march to acquire Nuclear weapons, their attempt to influence the middle east , other countries and areas and put them in the camp of their own fundamentalist ideas of how governments should be , and on and on.. yet this article , if correct, shows that all final power is held not by those elected, whether fraudulently or not, but by the clerics, the Supreme Leader, and the political is always under the careful watch of that powerful man and his supporters, and if the thought is that they, the government does not understand that, then , change will be made, and it will be the clerics who dictate the changes. --------------------------------------------------------- english.aljazeera.net/indepth/opinion/2011/06/201162994514399969.html---------------------------------------------------------- [Click on link to read whole article] ---------------------------------------------------------- Opinion Iran: Ahmadinejad vs Khamenei Does Ahmadinejad's fall empower or hurt the West in its troubled relationship with the Islamic republic? Geneive Abdo Last Modified: 06 Jul 2011 11:02 Ahmadinejad has found himself in the company of past Iranian presidents who have been marginalised [REUTERS] "Few could have imagined two years ago that the man who caused a Tehran spring that nearly brought down the Iranian regime, only for it to be saved by Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei, would today be reduced to political impotence. But after a three-month conflict, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad should be grateful Khamenei has not ordered his arrest, and, at least for now, is content for him to serve out his term as a lame duck. As this battle has unfolded, important lessons about the workings and dysfunction of the Iranian political and theological system have emerged. The limits of presidential power Like the two presidents before him, Ahmadinejad made the mistake of assuming Iranian presidents have power. He also incorrectly assumed that, because of his once special relationship with Khamenei, who had placed his full weight and legitimacy behind Ahmadinejad when it appeared his re-election in June 2009 was rigged, he could exploit his position to appoint his loyalists to key political posts - while dismissing others he deemed to be his foes"
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Post by ed1066 on Jul 6, 2011 12:04:13 GMT -5
Weapons? Why, they said they only wanted "peaceful electricity", and Obama and the Democrats urged the American people to "wait and see". Remember? Now, you're saying Iran is developing nuclear weapons? What happened to Obama's "peaceful electricity" story?
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Post by floridayankee on Jul 6, 2011 12:46:08 GMT -5
From PBS in 2005 Government Profile: Iran
The very structure of Iran's government is built upon a foundation split by a power struggle between reformists and Islamic hard-liners. According to Iran's constitution, its supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, who succeeded revolutionary leader Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, holds the majority of the power. Elected leaders, including President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and members of parliament, hold much less authority.
Supervisory bodies -- including the Expediency Council, Council of Guardians and the Assembly of Experts -- also carry broad responsibilities to monitor the government and ensure the legislation follows both the constitution and Islamic law.
Iran's constitution was written in 1979 and amended in 1989. read more: www.pbs.org/newshour/indepth_coverage/middle_east/iran/structure.html
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Post by BeenThere...DoneThat... on Jul 6, 2011 13:14:59 GMT -5
>>> yet this article , if correct, shows that all final power is held not by those elected, whether fraudulently or not, but by the clerics, the Supreme Leader, and the political is always under the careful watch of that powerful man and his supporters, and if the thought is that they, the government does not understand that, then , change will be made, and it will be the clerics who dictate the changes. <<< ...the article is correct... but I won't say, "duh"
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Post by deziloooooo on Jul 6, 2011 15:03:41 GMT -5
>>> yet this article , if correct, shows that all final power is held not by those elected, whether fraudulently or not, but by the clerics, the Supreme Leader, and the political is always under the careful watch of that powerful man and his supporters, and if the thought is that they, the government does not understand that, then , change will be made, and it will be the clerics who dictate the changes. <<< ...the article is correct... but I won't say, "duh" ok , but some might.. The thing I don't understand is , why would the clerics support the Nuclear option, if what they are most interested in is their staying in power, most interested in that over the spreading of the what ever..as their President seemed to want.. The sanctions are hurting the country in a big way, the unemoploymen is off the charts, economy sucks, industry is out dated, they are basically broke, and the unrest of so many, the green Party, it is real..not strong enough to make a change but uncomfortable for the clerics and leadership.. To me, if the economy was better, the sanctions removed, they, the clerics would be in even a stronger position then they are now..more people content, less split among the populace..economy doing well, these are a educated opeople, just no work for the young..and the population is young..their support for this weapon makes no sense to me, if what is reported as to their real concern is to stay in the leadership role..their actions just don't compute to me.
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Post by cme1201 on Jul 6, 2011 16:11:26 GMT -5
And what says we have power than having access to the Bomb?
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Post by billisonboard on Jul 6, 2011 16:15:04 GMT -5
Iran: Who really is in charge? The Bilderbergs of course.
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Post by cme1201 on Jul 6, 2011 16:17:48 GMT -5
Iran: Who really is in charge? The Bilderbergs of course. HA
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Post by mmhmm on Jul 6, 2011 16:53:31 GMT -5
Billis, dear ..... thhhhwwwwapppppp! Don't get that one started! ;D
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