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Post by vonnie6200 on Jun 25, 2011 18:46:42 GMT -5
LOL, Vonnie.. they do not know conservative women like us. They have this totally FALSE impression of what conservative women are... Kind of funny, actually. ;D Exactly!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2011 18:48:21 GMT -5
HEY!!! Maybe that's why they hate conservative female politicians and media people. They want us home praying, barefoot and pregnant.. maybe with an apron on...NOT on TV, and radio, and in politics... that messes everything up.. ;D
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Post by djAdvocate on Jun 25, 2011 18:51:53 GMT -5
i find it curious that Media Matters is even on the radar. they are a late comer to this game.
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Post by cereb on Jun 25, 2011 18:53:36 GMT -5
"There appears to be one potential snag in Tapscott's reasoning, however. In order for the IRS to decide that Media Matters should lose its tax exemption, it would also need to formally declare Fox News a partisan appendage of the Republican party, a conspiracy theory that Brock has long pushed. That's unlikely, to say the least, so it would seem less likely that Media Matters will lose its tax-exempt status anytime soon."
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Post by cereb on Jun 25, 2011 18:54:26 GMT -5
Sometimes whiners are wicked funny.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jun 25, 2011 18:56:10 GMT -5
they're not conservative women, they are just slaves how do you define conservative? if you define conservative of "adhering to traditional values of marriage and family" i would say that Taliban women are very conservative. like....1750ad conservative. ;]
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Post by hello fromWarsaw on Jun 25, 2011 19:17:04 GMT -5
Has to do with truth vs. lies, actually. The good of the people vs. pulling the wool over their eyes. Go to college or something. ;D
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Post by vonnie6200 on Jun 25, 2011 19:20:06 GMT -5
Has to do with truth vs. lies, actually. The good of the people vs. pulling the wool over their eyes. Go to college or something. ;D
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Post by vonnie6200 on Jun 25, 2011 19:26:43 GMT -5
they're not conservative women, they are just slaves how do you define conservative? if you define conservative of "adhering to traditional values of marriage and family" i would say that Taliban women are very conservative. like....1750ad conservative. ;] Maybe I don't have the correct definition of conservative - but to me a conservative is independent, can support his(her) self, does not need constant government help and intervention - learns from the past, learns from his own mistakes, learns by studying, asking questions, etc. - is motivated to make his life better, tries to be prepared for contingencies - in general is a "boy scout"
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2011 19:27:36 GMT -5
Bummer that I did not have the opportunity to go to college so I could communicate as well as you, War.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2011 19:28:45 GMT -5
By Jove, Vonnie-- you got it!! We are evul........... ;D
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Post by vonnie6200 on Jun 25, 2011 19:29:25 GMT -5
Bummer that I did not have the opportunity to go to college so I could communicate as well as you, War. Holy cow Krickett! Imagine if he was your professor!
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Post by hello fromWarsaw on Jun 25, 2011 19:34:53 GMT -5
RW idiocy. Like Soros is a Nazi who tried to ruin the UK. or Obama is a Muslim Kenyan Marxist, or the debt is big enough to threaten the country, or Health reform will raise costs and entail death panels, or Medicare and SS are bankrupt, and on and on from the Koch Bros., Rev. Moon, and the Aussie pipsqueak. And the conservative women's answer is adolescent and spam. I know, cut taxes on the bloated megarich.
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Post by vonnie6200 on Jun 25, 2011 19:36:31 GMT -5
RW idiocy. Like Soros is a Nazi who tried to ruin the UK. or Obama is a Muslim Kenyan Marxist, or the debt is big enough to threaten the country, or Health reform will raise costs and entail death panels, or Medicare and SS are bankrupt, and on and on from the Koch Bros., Rev. Moon, and the Aussie pipsqueak. And the conservative women's answer is adolescent and spam. I know, cut taxes on the bloated megarich. Where are you coming up with this?
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Post by hello fromWarsaw on Jun 25, 2011 19:40:01 GMT -5
" but to me a conservative is independent, can support his(her) self, does not need constant government help and intervention" Hater poppycock, has nothing to do with conservatism- neither does the rest
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Post by djAdvocate on Jun 25, 2011 19:40:42 GMT -5
how do you define conservative? if you define conservative of "adhering to traditional values of marriage and family" i would say that Taliban women are very conservative. like....1750ad conservative. ;] Maybe I don't have the correct definition of conservative - but to me a conservative is independent, can support his(her) self, does not need constant government help and intervention - learns from the past, learns from his own mistakes, learns by studying, asking questions, etc. - is motivated to make his life better, tries to be prepared for contingencies - in general is a "boy scout" WS Burroughs once described himself that way (boy scout). but i don't think he was terribly conservative. ;] those are things you may believe about yourself as a conservative, and i have no doubt they are true, in your case. but there are clearly conservatives that do NOT have your libertarian leanings. they would like to see a more codified personal morality that keeps the sheep from straying. here is what Webster has to say about the term conservative: con·ser·va·tive (kn-sûrv-tv) adj. 1. Favoring traditional views and values; tending to oppose change.
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Post by vonnie6200 on Jun 25, 2011 19:41:03 GMT -5
" but to me a conservative is independent, can support his(her) self, does not need constant government help and intervention" Hater poppycock, has nothing to do with conservatism- neither does the rest So it's your turn - what is your definition of a conservative?
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Post by hello fromWarsaw on Jun 25, 2011 19:43:00 GMT -5
'Where are you coming up with this?" 50% of Pub voters believe each of those things. Are you just a troll?
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Post by vonnie6200 on Jun 25, 2011 19:43:54 GMT -5
'Where are you coming up with this?" 50% of Pub voters believe each of those things. Are you just a troll? Actually - no - but I think you might be.
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Post by hello fromWarsaw on Jun 25, 2011 19:49:10 GMT -5
These days it means tax cuts solve everything, and trying to get health costs under control is communist, and no lie is too obscene to get power back, to cheat the non rich of its money- right off the wall and misinformed, according to the rest of the modern world.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jun 25, 2011 19:53:03 GMT -5
These days it means tax cuts solve everything, and trying to get health costs under control is communist, and no lie is too obscene to get power back, to cheat the non rich of its money- right off the wall and misinformed, according to the rest of the modern world. this is setting up as a battle between taxes and social services. the Democrats would be very wise to keep that fact front and center if they want to remain in charge.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2011 19:54:46 GMT -5
I consider being a conservative to be liberating, and I am in no way alone.
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Post by vonnie6200 on Jun 25, 2011 19:57:58 GMT -5
These days it means tax cuts solve everything, and trying to get health costs under control is communist, and no lie is too obscene to get power back, to cheat the non rich of its money- right off the wall and misinformed, according to the rest of the modern world. Tax cuts mean leaving money with the people that actually earned it - the money does not belong to the government Read the bill! Obamacare will not lower health costs and will have many unintended consequences No lie is too obscene - that one goes to your side also - liberals have done more to destroy family life in this country than anything
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Post by vonnie6200 on Jun 25, 2011 20:03:52 GMT -5
I consider being a conservative to be liberating, and I am in no way alone.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2011 20:19:10 GMT -5
Back atcha, Vonnie. I was sorry you passed on the mod job... probably the sane thing to do, though..
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Post by mmhmm on Jun 25, 2011 20:32:02 GMT -5
how do you define conservative? if you define conservative of "adhering to traditional values of marriage and family" i would say that Taliban women are very conservative. like....1750ad conservative. ;] Maybe I don't have the correct definition of conservative - but to me a conservative is independent, can support his(her) self, does not need constant government help and intervention - learns from the past, learns from his own mistakes, learns by studying, asking questions, etc. - is motivated to make his life better, tries to be prepared for contingencies - in general is a "boy scout" That's interesting. I meet all those criteria (except the boy scout part ... I'm female), but I'm not a conservative. I'm a moderate leaning a bit left in some areas and right in others. If you paint with that broad a brush, you're bound to be dead wrong a good deal of the time, vonnie.
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Post by cereb on Jun 25, 2011 20:36:14 GMT -5
Dang...nobody's dragged out the ol George Soros chestnut.
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Post by SweetVirginia on Jun 25, 2011 20:41:58 GMT -5
Maybe I don't have the correct definition of conservative - but to me a conservative is independent, can support his(her) self, does not need constant government help and intervention - learns from the past, learns from his own mistakes, learns by studying, asking questions, etc. - is motivated to make his life better, tries to be prepared for contingencies - in general is a "boy scout" That's interesting. I meet all those criteria (except the boy scout part ... I'm female), but I'm not a conservative. I'm a moderate leaning a bit left in some areas and right in others. If you paint with that broad a brush, you're bound to be dead wrong a good deal of the time, vonnie. I also meet those criteria (except the boy scout part) and I am certainly not conservative, politically speaking.
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Post by vonnie6200 on Jun 25, 2011 20:43:52 GMT -5
Maybe I don't have the correct definition of conservative - but to me a conservative is independent, can support his(her) self, does not need constant government help and intervention - learns from the past, learns from his own mistakes, learns by studying, asking questions, etc. - is motivated to make his life better, tries to be prepared for contingencies - in general is a "boy scout" That's interesting. I meet all those criteria (except the boy scout part ... I'm female), but I'm not a conservative. I'm a moderate leaning a bit left in some areas and right in others. If you paint with that broad a brush, you're bound to be dead wrong a good deal of the time, vonnie. well I was actually a girl scout and I noticed that at times I do agree with your point of view basically I believe that people should grow up, be an adult and take care of them self and their family - and not depend on the government
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Post by vonnie6200 on Jun 25, 2011 20:44:53 GMT -5
That's interesting. I meet all those criteria (except the boy scout part ... I'm female), but I'm not a conservative. I'm a moderate leaning a bit left in some areas and right in others. If you paint with that broad a brush, you're bound to be dead wrong a good deal of the time, vonnie. I also meet those criteria (except the boy scout part) and I am certainly not conservative, politically speaking. sometimes I agree with you also
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