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Post by marshabar1 on Jun 24, 2011 13:30:45 GMT -5
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Post by piff on Jun 24, 2011 13:31:54 GMT -5
Hey MARSH.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2011 13:56:01 GMT -5
PIFF!!!!!! Hi!! Good to see you here!! Sorry you got caught in the troll net. Our mods are working overtime lately!! YAY!! Piff is here!!!
I dunno, Marsha.. I like it, though.. Is that the Dohrn/Ayers flotilla?? Hey, I give Obama credit when it is due. If this is what it appears to be, good for team Obama. IRS yanked tax exempt status from CAIR, too. Could be a fluke paper thing they can get out of, but it is possible Obama is doing something good there, too. IF any of this is as it seems-- GREAT!!!
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Post by marshabar1 on Jun 24, 2011 22:10:52 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2011 1:25:06 GMT -5
Guess the radicals will have to find a new "cause." Kind of embarrassing the way they lavish all this attention on people that hate "Western" ways. Sounds like they would not mind going down as martyrs, either. What is wrong with people?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2011 3:24:49 GMT -5
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Post by ameiko on Jun 25, 2011 9:51:37 GMT -5
Wow, Obama can't make up his man whether to support Isreal or not!
Still, I'm glad that his administration is letting these morons know what idiots they are. I hope that Isreal sinks these flotillas and be done with it.
"What of the children of Palestine, who were ignored in our President's latest speech on Israel and Palestine, and whose impoverished, terrorized, segregated existence was mocked by the standing ovations recently given in the U.S. Congress to the prime minister of Israel?”
Idiot. If the Palestinians stopped lobbing rockets into Isreal, blowing up their busses, etc.... then Israel would be happy to trade with a PEACEFUL neighbor. Palestine had brough misery upon itself.
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Post by marshabar1 on Jun 25, 2011 10:08:53 GMT -5
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Post by handyman2 on Jun 25, 2011 10:50:04 GMT -5
If I remember correctly there is a law that says American citizens are not to get involved in political matters of other countries without state department clearance and approval. News groups can report on them but are not allowed to take part in one side or the other.
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Post by marshabar1 on Jun 25, 2011 10:56:52 GMT -5
If I remember correctly there is a law that says American citizens are not to get involved in political matters of other countries without state department clearance and approval. News groups can report on them but are not allowed to take part in one side or the other. Yeah well, they're liberals therefore citizens of the world first. That's gotta count for something. Israel must have given the administration of stiff heads up. Can't imagine this state department getting involved otherwise. Can't wait for the arrests.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2011 10:07:01 GMT -5
They love being arrested. I like watching them cry when they get arrested at town hall meetings... Maybe if they just left them in jail for a few days with the illegals and other fun criminals they would adjust their outlook. A paper arrest with a small fine has little impact.
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Post by marshabar1 on Jun 26, 2011 10:15:05 GMT -5
Guernica: Have you been following the “SlutWalk” protests, the international movement borne out of remarks made by a Toronto police officer that “women should avoid dressing like sluts in order not be victimized?” What are you thoughts on the movement? We have lost the peace we once shared with the other animals and with it our peace with ourselves on the planet. Alice Walker: I’ve always understood the word “slut” to mean a woman who freely enjoys her own sexuality in any way she wants to; undisturbed by other people’s wishes for her behavior. Sexual desire originates in her and is directed by her. In that sense it is a word well worth retaining. As a poet, I find it has a rich, raunchy, elemental, down to earth sound, that connects us to something primal, moist, and free. The spontaneous movement that has grown around reclaiming this word speaks to women’s resistance to having names turned into weapons used against them. I would guess the police officer who used the word “slut” had no inkling of its real meaning or its importance to women as an area of their freedom about to be, through the threat of rape, closed to them. www.guernicamag.com/blog/2794/michael_archer_qa_with_alice_w/These people are . . . what? Amazing? Oh yeah, disgusting.
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Post by ameiko on Jun 26, 2011 10:27:31 GMT -5
wrong thread Marsh?
That said, I think it's pretty ridiculous. The whole thing started because one cop said that women would be raped less if they didn't dress like sluts.
He's right.
People will react to you based on how you act and dress. If a woman dresses and act ssexually provocative, people will see her as offering up sex. There are very primative, primal, and powerful passions that are being provoked in the reptile portion of the human brain. Good judgement in both genders can be overriden as that side takes over (we see it when women have sex and then claim "it just happened" or you see a frenzy of violence in a mob) .
Some women don't seem to understand this. They claim they can act and dress as they want without consequence. Point this out and you are accused of "siding with the rapist."
Umm.. no. I'm not saying that a rapist should not be prosecuted nor saying that he has a right to commit such an act. Simply pointing out that actions have consequences.
If a drunk man dressed to the nines, flashing his diamond rings and hundred dollar bills hanging out of his pocket, and strolling down a dark alley in a bad neighborhood, was mugged he would receive no sympathy. He put himself in a very bad situation.
Same thing with women who act and dress in a very sexy manner, go drinking, and then go home with men they barely know: bad stuff is likely to happen.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2011 10:31:33 GMT -5
I would call my daughters modern young women. You saw my 19 YO daughter's dance video, Marsha. They like to have a good time, party lightly, run around in bathing suit tops and cut-offs.... and they would NEVER take part in a slut walk. Thank God. They think the whole thing is disgusting. But then again... they don't sleep around, get abortions or any of that stuff, so maybe they are not modern after all. They ALSO have always understood that girls need to stick with their girl pals when they go out, and walking around alone and half naked is dangerous. Common sense. Look at that beautiful little college girl.. walking around drunk, barefooted, and alone in the middle of the night-- never seen again. It does not matter if it is right or wrong that girls and women are not safe out there on the streets, what matters is that it is a fact. I've given many, MANY free cab rides to little drunk college girls I find wandering the streets drunk, crying, half naked in the middle of the night. Very, very dangerous for young ladies to put themselves out like that. Taking part in a slut walk is a real good way to catch the eye of some psycho..
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2011 10:32:31 GMT -5
Well, crap.. I posted after her.. oh, well, it's her thread.. ;D
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Post by ameiko on Jun 26, 2011 10:37:23 GMT -5
Well, crap.. I posted after her.. oh, well, it's her thread.. ;D And I added to mine so it's all good. Let the mods sort it out. ;D I look at things like a "slut walk" and realize how far down the road to hell we are. As much as I dismiss modern marriage, quite frankly a society functions best when a woman's modesty and virginity are cherished and most people get married young and stay married. Freeing that sexuality destroys the family and thus society. So sad... Linking back to the original topic, think how fewer people would be involved in those "causes" if they were too busy either working to support a family or raising one!
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Post by marshabar1 on Jun 26, 2011 10:42:12 GMT -5
Alice Walker is the poet who is determined to go on the Gaza Flotilla despite State Department warning, Ameiko. Should have clarified. She's a moral figurehead for these people who want to see Israel destroyed. Oh and of course the mad bomber moral figureheads, Dohrn and Ayers. Are they still going?
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Post by deziloooooo on Jun 26, 2011 10:42:38 GMT -5
Well, crap.. I posted after her.. oh, well, it's her thread.. ;D Actually , don't understand the "oh, well, it's her thread.." to me , once posted, it fair game for all, though the post of marshas is a bit off the reason of the thread, but anyway, to get back on the topic first posted, the op, here is a new developement just posted. ----------------------------------------- english.aljazeera.net/----------------------------------------- Middle East Israel warns media over latest Gaza flotilla Israel may ban journalists aboard planned aid flotilla for 10 years and also seize their equipment, official says. David Poort Last Modified: 26 Jun 2011 13:28 "Israel has warned journalists that they could be banned from entering the country for 10 years if they travel aboard an aid flotilla scheduled to set sail for the Gaza Strip. The Israeli government issued the warning on Sunday, saying the journalists could also have their equipment seized in addition to other sanctions. The threat came as pro-Palestinian activists prepared to set sail for Gaza from Greece and elsewhere in an effort to break Israel's blockade of the coastal territory. Eleven ships - nine passenger boats and two cargo ships - carrying about 1,000 activists from 20 countries are said to be taking part in the second Freedom Flotilla. Among the activists are many Israelis, including Amira Hass, a prominent journalist of the Israeli newspaper Haaretz. The attempt by the activists to break the Israeli siege comes a year after a similar flotilla was violently intercepted by Israeli commandos. Nine activists on board the lead ship Mavi Marmara were shot dead and 40 others were wounded in the Israeli assault that evoked global condemnation. 'Dangerous provocation' Israel insists the latest flotilla is a "dangerous provocation" and has vowed to intercept it. "Those participating in the flotilla have declared that it is their intention to 'break' the naval blockade that has been imposed on the Gaza Strip for security reasons, given Hamas's efforts to smuggle weaponry and terrorists into the Gaza Strip," Oren Helman, director of Israel's Government Press Office, said. Helman said the government of Israel has instructed the Israeli army not to allow the flotilla to reach Gaza. "Participation in the flotilla is an intentional violation of Israeli law and is liable to lead to participants being denied entry into the State of Israel for ten years, to the impoundment of their equipment and to additional sanctions," Helman said. "I implore you to avoid taking part in this provocative and dangerous event, the purpose of which is to undermine Israel's right to defend itself and to knowingly violate Israeli law." On Friday, the US also warned the activists against their plans to send the new flotilla to the Gaza Strip, saying it would be irresponsible and dangerous. "Groups that seek to break Israel's maritime blockade of Gaza are taking irresponsible and provocative actions that risk the safety of their passengers," Victoria Nuland, a state department spokesperson, said in a statement. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said there were better ways of getting help into Gaza. "We don't think it's useful or productive or helpful to the people of Gaza," Clinton told reporters after a meeting with the visiting South Korean foreign minister. 'Element of surprise' Most of the activists are planning to set sail from Greece. They have, however, deliberately kept their plans vague, including their exact date of departure, to retain an element of surprise. Meanwhile, passengers of a US boat in the planned flotilla said Greek officials might be blocking their departure because of US and Israeli diplomatic pressure. Activists on board The Audacity of Hope said that Greek officials "received an anonymous request of a private citizen concerning the seaworthiness of the ship". The boat therefore requires a detailed inspection before which it will not be permitted to leave. "Israel has said openly that it is pressuring governments to try to stop the flotilla, and clearly Greece is a key government since several of the boats plan to leave from Greece," Medea Benajmin, an activist on the boat said. "It is unconscionable that Israel would take advantage of the economic hardship the Greek people are experiencing to try to stop our boat or the flotilla." The ships are not set to leave for at least five days, Mohamed Sawalha, the head of the International Committee to break the Siege, told Al Jazeera"
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2011 10:47:11 GMT -5
Oh, yeah, I saw the Alice Walker flotilla thing, missed the connection... duh... correct... from slut walks to freedom flotillas... all really stupid.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2011 10:48:37 GMT -5
Ayers and his terrorist wife WERE going. Haven't seen anything lately. Maybe their bud Obama asked them not to go.. we'll see.
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Post by ameiko on Jun 26, 2011 10:48:50 GMT -5
Alice Walker: I’ve always understood the word “slut” to mean a woman who freely enjoys her own sexuality in any way she wants to; undisturbed by other people’s wishes for her behavior. Sexual desire originates in her and is directed by her. In that sense it is a word well worth retaining. As a poet, I find it has a rich, raunchy, elemental, down to earth sound, that connects us to something primal, moist, and free.It's actually women who use the term "slut" quite often against other women. If you have one woman giving our sex cheaply, it lowers the price for all women. It's one reason why a woman's sexuality was controlled and often by other women. Hmmm... I wonder if I could use the world "slut" and then defend myself as being poetic? Hmmm... who wants to see me experiment?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2011 10:51:49 GMT -5
Hey, why not?? Go up to some half naked beautiful young lady, shake her hand and congratulate her for being a modern slut!!! (Arrange bail in advance.)
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Post by ameiko on Jun 26, 2011 10:55:20 GMT -5
Hey, why not?? Go up to some half naked beautiful young lady, shake her hand and congratulate her for being a modern slut!!! (Arrange bail in advance.) I was thinking making my funeral arrangements in advance... ;D This is a great gatekeeper question for dating: "so, have you ever been involved in a slutwalk?"
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2011 11:15:15 GMT -5
US State Dept. Threatens Activists with 'Fines or Incarceration' if They Proceed to GazaThey (& everybody else) knows that those are empty threats. If our President wanted to stop them he would have bombed them by now. (or maybe a cruse missile). Sure would be interesting if he was in the white house while his daughters were dating. One kiss & BOOM!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2011 11:42:01 GMT -5
He sure does like his bombs...... hey, one of his kids is almost old enough to date. Maybe he will send one of those tiny little bug drones along on dates... ;D
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Post by marshabar1 on Jun 26, 2011 21:54:45 GMT -5
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Post by ed1066 on Jun 26, 2011 22:09:25 GMT -5
Hey Dezi, did you know that every year at Purim, Al Jazeera publishes a story about how Jews use the blood of Muslim babies to make their Hamantashen? Did you know that? They want their readers to believe that our people kill Muslim babies and drink their blood. It's called a blood libel, perhaps you've heard the term?
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Post by marshabar1 on Jun 26, 2011 22:14:17 GMT -5
Hey who cares if threads go off topic as long as people are having fun and not attacking each other? I like a good organic free-wheeling thread. I'm no fascist. ;D
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Post by billisonboard on Jun 26, 2011 22:45:06 GMT -5
... If you have one woman giving our sex cheaply, it lowers the price for all women. It's one reason why a woman's sexuality was controlled and often by other women. ... All women are prostitutes, some get cash for sex while others get payment in kind? Is that what you mean ameiko?
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Post by deziloooooo on Jun 27, 2011 6:57:28 GMT -5
Hey Dezi, did you know that every year at Purim, Al Jazeera publishes a story about how Jews use the blood of Muslim babies to make their Hamantashen? Did you know that? They want their readers to believe that our people kill Muslim babies and drink their blood. It's called a blood libel, perhaps you've heard the term? I heard of it ed, it goes back to the middle ages , when it was said by those who wanted to whip up the crowd , many times by the Church , to get he good folks whipped up to go after the Jews in their areas.. Al Jazeera actually prints that garbage? You sure? Or is that another "ed" ism...sorry, have to ask, you have posted some real doozies, right? Let me google... www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/judaica/ejud_0002_0003_0_03147.html"IN ARAB COUNTRIES The blood libel was repeated in the Arab countries in modern times in a number of ways in various books, as in Egypt in the 1960s, the titles referring to "talmudic human sacrifices" or "the secrets of Zionism." Mustafa Tlass, a key political figure in Syria for decades, first published his book on the 1860 Damascus blood libel in 1983. The book, called "Matzah of Zion" and reprinted in a number of editions and translated into many languages, became an influential and frequently quoted authority on how Jews and Zionists constantly perpetrate cruel ritual murders. Newspapers as well joined in, with the Egyptian government-sponsored Al-Ahram publishing in October 2000 a full-page article called "Jewish Matzah Made from Arab Blood." TV series and discussions also evoke the blood libel, as on the al-Jazeera station and in the Al-Manar (Hizbullah television network) series The Exile in 2003. The image of the Zionist in these visual depictions, watched by millions all over the world, is that of the Der Sturmer Jew, bloodthirsty and frighteningly ferocious."
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