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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jun 24, 2011 9:55:48 GMT -5
...and bring $30 to $50 billion in revenue to the US Treasury just in royalties nevermind the taxes paid, and government services NOT consumed by 3 million new working Americans...
The former chairman of Dutch Shell Oil says that if the United States brough oil production up to where it was during the Reagn administration, it would instantly create 3 million new jobs, and instantly generate $30 to $50 billion in revenue from oil leases. And we don't even need to bring ANWR online to do it- just get out of the way and let production restart in already ready already wells in the gulf and other locations.
Of course the big picture is massive stimulus in the form of cheaper energy-- the fuel for the engine of the American economy.
So, what is Obama waiting for?
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Post by Mkitty is pro kitty on Jun 24, 2011 10:19:01 GMT -5
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Post by privateinvestor on Jun 24, 2011 11:02:12 GMT -5
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Post by privateinvestor on Jun 24, 2011 11:04:25 GMT -5
How To Instantaneously Create 3 Million Jobs
How about you might just consider Ron Paul's suggestion to bring our troops home from overseas ASAP and with the money saved create jobs by retraining them and other veterans???
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Post by djAdvocate on Jun 24, 2011 12:39:10 GMT -5
How To Instantaneously Create 3 Million Jobs How about you might just consider Ron Paul's suggestion to bring our troops home from overseas ASAP and with the money saved create jobs by retraining them and other veterans??? amen, preacher man!
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Post by hello fromWarsaw on Jun 24, 2011 12:48:03 GMT -5
The former chairman of Dutch Shell Oil is full of it
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Post by vonnie6200 on Jun 24, 2011 12:53:53 GMT -5
The former chairman of Dutch Shell Oil is full of it Now why would you say that?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2011 14:01:29 GMT -5
That's a lot of jobs.... good idea, retrain the returning warriors-- they can work the rigs. Good money in those jobs, and we already know they are tough enough to do the work.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jun 24, 2011 14:04:24 GMT -5
How To Instantaneously Create 3 Million Jobs How about you might just consider Ron Paul's suggestion to bring our troops home from overseas ASAP and with the money saved create jobs by retraining them and other veterans??? All options are on the table. I'd favor an end to nation building. I'm all for spec ops to kill people trying to kill us. Hell, I'm for pushing the damn button if need be to defend the country. But our enemies can re-build their own shit. And let's not kid ourselves-- MOST of the Iraqi people and the Afghan people ARE just that: enemies. Let's get back to the Reagan doctrine: 100 of yours for every 1 of ours. Hell, let's raise it-- make it 1,000 of them to 1 of ours. And the basic strategy is "We win. They lose."
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2011 14:10:00 GMT -5
But, PAUUULLLLLL--- we have to help build the ME/Africa in Iran's Islamic Sharia image...it's our human duty to FREE the people... except in Iran..
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2011 14:26:10 GMT -5
The former chairman of Dutch Shell Oil is full of it Now why would you say that? Maybe he's been hob-nobbing with the CEO's of major oil companies while pretending to be a wealth redistributing liberal over here. How else would he know
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Post by henryclay on Jun 24, 2011 15:00:12 GMT -5
How To Instantaneously Create 3 Million Jobs
Wouldn't we have to get our oil rigs back from Brazil and China where Obama leased them out to, so they couold get the oil from under us first?
I was talking to an oil field worker yesterday. He said he went to Malaysia 5 or 6 years ago because of no work here. He said his company sold to a Chinese outfit last year and leased more American rigs. He said he hated to come home right now but had to because they arre moving the rig. He said he wanted to be there for some talks about the compay may get transferred to South America somewhere and he is just getting comfortable working the people on his crew over there.
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Post by Bluerobin on Jun 24, 2011 15:11:31 GMT -5
Go for it. We need the energy and the jobs. Too bad our politicians don't see it that way!
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Post by formerexpat on Jun 24, 2011 19:37:20 GMT -5
Just think of the other industries that would also come back, create jobs and revenue for the government if regulation and government policy wasn't so ass backwards.
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Post by humok on Jun 24, 2011 20:42:05 GMT -5
We do not really need to drill new wells if they would re-open the ones that were shut down and capped off during the 70's to help create the fake shortages during the Carter years.
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Post by eastcoastliberal on Jun 24, 2011 21:59:17 GMT -5
Just imagine how many jobs were created by the Horizon disaster.
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Post by eastcoastliberal on Jun 24, 2011 22:01:16 GMT -5
Just think of the other industries that would also come back, create jobs and revenue for the government if regulation and government policy wasn't so ass backwards.
For example?
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Post by eastcoastliberal on Jun 24, 2011 22:02:30 GMT -5
I was talking to an oil field worker yesterday. He said he went to Malaysia 5 or 6 years ago because of no work here. He said his company sold to a Chinese outfit last year and leased more American rigs. He said he hated to come home right now but had to because they arre moving the rig. He said he wanted to be there for some talks about the compay may get transferred to South America somewhere and he is just getting comfortable working the people on his crew over there.
Stealing jobs for Malaysians, is he? heh heh heh
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jun 24, 2011 22:47:18 GMT -5
Speaking of the deep water horizon 'disaster'...where's the oil? Where's the decimated coastline? Where's the oily beaches from Galvaston to Long Island?
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Post by hello fromWarsaw on Jun 24, 2011 23:47:23 GMT -5
Just the Gulf is screwed. Great job, Brownie. Listen, if the oil corps could make money off all the wells they're not using, they WOULD be pumping and drilling. I'm damn glad we have adults in charge now...., not greedy shytteheads tyvm.
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Post by hello fromWarsaw on Jun 24, 2011 23:48:36 GMT -5
Keeping our oil for the future is fine with me
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2011 1:55:48 GMT -5
Heck, nothing wrong with being totally dependent on people that hate our guts for oil, and who needs jobs when we have unemployment and welfare?? Why work when you don't have to?
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Post by Bluerobin on Jun 25, 2011 6:10:34 GMT -5
Speaking of the deep water horizon 'disaster'...where's the oil? Where's the decimated coastline? Where's the oily beaches from Galvaston to Long Island? They used enough dispersant, so it won't show up for a while. You have to be an idiot to believe they completely cleaned it up.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jun 25, 2011 11:13:04 GMT -5
Speaking of the deep water horizon 'disaster'...where's the oil? Where's the decimated coastline? Where's the oily beaches from Galvaston to Long Island? They used enough dispersant, so it won't show up for a while. You have to be an idiot to believe they completely cleaned it up. I don't believe they "completely cleaned it up". Nor do I believe in the doom and gloom predictions. Being the well-informed person I am, I already knew that the equivalent of two (2) Exxon Valdez sized tankers full of oil leaks naturally up from the sea floor in the Gulf of Mexico every year. I'm not saying it's all good, or we shouldn't worry about it. But we have to avoid this reactionary far left environmental nonsense just as surely as we need to avoid the "everything is fine, nothing to worry about" we hear from private industry.
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Post by handyman2 on Jun 25, 2011 13:56:50 GMT -5
Palm beach Paul: Most people I doubt realize that the fissures in the sea floor leak all the time. The only difference is it is slow and the deep sea ameba's absorb it versus a massive dumping of oil in the sea. The only problem I have about off shore drilling is that those rigs are sitting ducks for our enemies should they decide to create havoc. We have plenty of oil reserves for a hundred years if the enviormentalists would get out of the way. Land based spills are much easier and safer to deal with.
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Post by AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP on Jun 25, 2011 16:13:13 GMT -5
Palm beach Paul: Most people I doubt realize that the fissures in the sea floor leak all the time. The only difference is it is slow and the deep sea ameba's absorb it versus a massive dumping of oil in the sea. The only problem I have about off shore drilling is that those rigs are sitting ducks for our enemies should they decide to create havoc. We have plenty of oil reserves for a hundred years if the enviormentalists would get out of the way. Land based spills are much easier and safer to deal with. Those same enemies are drilling in the same waters where we won't drill. Right now no enemy could dare to dream to do to our supply of energy what we've done to ourselves.
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Post by Bluerobin on Jun 25, 2011 16:31:33 GMT -5
Drill, drill, drill, until we have an alternative. But once we start getting tax revenues form the oil, maybe, just maybe, we could put some of that money into domestic alternative energy. That might be the key to solving future problems and stimulating the economy. Like incentives to companies to develope viable ways to use other energy like wind, solar, geothermal, etc. We are such a backwards thinking country, municipalities around here are already banning back yard wind turbines - duh?
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Post by safeharbor37 on Jun 25, 2011 16:43:56 GMT -5
Jobs cannot be "created." Jobs are the product of endeavors which meet needs and wants. Government cannot, in and of itself, "create" jobs while carrying out its legitimate functions. Preparing people to meet qualifications for jobs does not, in itself, create the jobs for which the people are being prepared. It's sometimes said that the only thing the government can do is "get out of the way," but I'd say that it's possible for government to facilitate job growth [although that does involve "getting out of the way.] What creates more problems is the idea that the government is the solution, when the government is usually the problem ~ and the more the government involvement, the bigger the problem. The current economic problems are primarily due to government attempts to "fix" the problem. The fact is that people got used to living beyond their means and, at this point, refuse to admit that and do with less. The government of course is eager to increase its involvement promising that it represents the solution rather than the problem. Simple supply and demand economics can provide the solutions if it's tried, but that requires that those who produce less must either produce more or learn to live on less. Consumption can exceed production only for a limited time not only because what is consumed must be produced or provided, but because, sooner or later, others get tired of producing for those who don't. Jobs must meet a need or they aren't really jobs, but positions [or sinecures]. Government produces the latter, but not so much the former. Theoretically, the government might produce real jobs, but it rarely ever does. Government provides services and there are of course people required to provide those services, but these people provide services which while sometimes necessary, nevertheless must be paid by those who produce products or provide services in the private sector. If you think about it, the government could simply hire everyone and provide full employment [100% employment, 0% unemployment], but where would the money to pay them come from? Apparently, currently, there are those who think that the government can simply print it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2011 11:55:55 GMT -5
I agree with drill, baby, drill for now and also work on new forms of energy. This policy of developing new energy while smashing what is already here is stupid, and has cost millions of jobs. Does not make sense. I also agree with safe that training people for jobs does not create jobs. Look at the college grads living with Mommy and Daddy because they can't find work. Those kids did what they were told to do to ensure their futures, when really they could have worked from bagging groceries to management by now in a grocery store and would be better off. Nothing is going to improve until all this talk of raising taxes and Obamacare go away. Then the jobs will start up again.
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Post by djAdvocate on Jun 26, 2011 13:16:51 GMT -5
I agree with drill, baby, drill for now and also work on new forms of energy. This policy of developing new energy while smashing what is already here is stupid, and has cost millions of jobs. Does not make sense. I also agree with safe that training people for jobs does not create jobs. Look at the college grads living with Mommy and Daddy because they can't find work. Those kids did what they were told to do to ensure their futures, when really they could have worked from bagging groceries to management by now in a grocery store and would be better off. Nothing is going to improve until all this talk of raising taxes and Obamacare go away. Then the jobs will start up again. not following how unemployment is related to "ObamaCare".
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