"Delusional, weak, confused" No Clue on Iran

[marshabar1]

The race is on, and our understanding should be that the Iranian regime must not obtain nuclear warheads. Whether we help the Iranian people end the regime or whether we take the regime out ourselves, the regime must go—now.

The question is: Do we want war before they have the bomb or after they have the bomb?

CB: Amen.

RK: But I’m sorry to say that the Obama administration is delusional, it’s weak, and it’s confused. Apparently nobody in the administration understands the consequences of a nuclear-armed Iran. Their dual process of negotiation and sanction has not worked. It has failed—as I predicted in February 2009 in an open letter to President Obama. And now they have thrown in the towel, they have no clue how to deal with events in the Middle East, and the Chinese and the Russians are taking full advantage of this situation.

CB: There’s no way on Earth that this administration is going to do anything that it ought to do with respect to Iran. But American citizens can demand that any Republican presidential candidate who wants our support must have a rational policy regarding Iran—namely, one that openly supports the Iranian people and advocates the overthrow of their regime.

RK: Yes. But it’s a long time to 2013.

www.theobjectivestandard.com/issues/2011-summer/reza-kahlili.asp

Excellent in-depth interview.

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"Delusional, weak, confused" No Clue on Iran

Even if he is, he's still the President so he will be the one to deceive what to do.

How about a nickname for him? I suggest "Bomb-en Obama" the man with the plan. Kill everyone & let God sort them out.

[deziloooooo]

Jun 23, 2011 22:45:00 GMT -5 @oldtex said:

"Delusional, weak, confused" No Clue on Iran

Even if he is, he's still the President so he will be the one to deceive what to do.

How about a nickname for him? I suggest "Bomb-en Obama" the man with the plan. Kill everyone & let God sort them out.

So the suggestion of what he should do....is there one?..PLEASE don't suggest we Nuc em..oh nooooo, you are going to suggest that aren't you....

[marshabar1]

Jun 23, 2011 22:45:00 GMT -5 @oldtex said:

"Delusional, weak, confused" No Clue on Iran

Even if he is, he's still the President so he will be the one to deceive what to do.

How about a nickname for him? I suggest "Bomb-en Obama" the man with the plan. Kill everyone & let God sort them out.

Yeah he'll deceive what to do all right and it'll all be based on what he thinks will serve his political future. But he's not smart enough to even do that right. He blunders along trying to make points with every side and he just ends up pissing everybody off. When will he wake up? My guess is never.

[marshabar1]

Not sure if either of you read the interview. The idea put forward is to do the exact opposite of what Obama did.

It is to SUPPORT the Iranian people in opposition to the present leadership. You know? Like he's doing in Libya? Like he did against our ally Mubarak in support of the Muslim Brotherhood?

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So the suggestion of what he should do....is there one?..PLEASE don't suggest we Nuc em..oh nooooo, you are going to suggest that aren't you....

Maybe I am......because I suggest that we let the President decide what to do. He's a lot more your President than he is mine. What do you think he will do?

You see I think that the President has a lot more info than we do. To second guess him without that info is STUPID. Of course the factor that isn't in there is if the President is rational. Now I don't think he is but about 30% of the country does so it could go either way I guess. Either way, I'm not going to try to be a Sunday morning quarterback on something that might happen. Besides, if he nukes them we may lose some oil but I'm betting that we can get a lot of free radioactive glass.

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LOOOOOONG read, Marsha, but a good one. I wonder if that guy is 100% accurate?? I don't trust anything any more, but it sounds like the impressions I have gotten from so called experts on Iran, and he is an Iranian. A difference I see in the Iran mess with some of the other messes over there is that the rebels in Iran claim to want LESS religion, Sharia, all that, while the rebels other places are shooting FOR more Islamic states... weird-- but we do nothing to help in Iran but throw money, weapons, you name it, to unknown people in places like Egypt and Libya that may be worse than what was there before.... WHY would we help one group to be "free" that wants to be enslaved by Islamist law, but not help another group that has HAD IT with being ruled by a violent religion and wants freedom FROM it??
Nothing over there makes much sense to me. I'm glad to hear that virus knocked out one of the nuke places, but pretty weird they are going with it any way, even through firing it up may cause a meltdown. Geez-- insane people.... and of course that spy said what we know-- someone should have taken down the nuke plans in '09 when we had a chance. Very soon there will be nukes pointed at us from Venezuela!!!! Hey, to be really selfish here-- my family is close to that southern border, don't like the sound of that at all. Plus-- he confirmed another thing we know-- they WILL wipe out Israel, and control the majority of the world's oil. Fun times ahead with Iran--- big surprise.....

[hello fromWarsaw]

The Russians are STILL helping the Iranians and STILL say no monkey business. But thanks for the fear mongering....You contain Iran's ambitions and wait for the inevitable evolution. Chill

[hello fromWarsaw]

"Very soon there will be nukes pointed at us from Venezuela!!!!"

Sure.

[hello fromWarsaw]

"while the rebels other places are shooting FOR more Islamic states... "

Not.

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War-- do you read any of the links people post, or just believe the thing most comfortable for you? Just wondering..

[marshabar1]

Jun 23, 2011 23:29:54 GMT -5 @krickitt said:

LOOOOOONG read, Marsha, but a good one. I wonder if that guy is 100% accurate?? I don't trust anything any more, but it sounds like the impressions I have gotten from so called experts on Iran, and he is an Iranian. A difference I see in the Iran mess with some of the other messes over there is that the rebels in Iran claim to want LESS religion, Sharia, all that, while the rebels other places are shooting FOR more Islamic states... weird-- but we do nothing to help in Iran but throw money, weapons, you name it, to unknown people in places like Egypt and Libya that may be worse than what was there before.... WHY would we help one group to be "free" that wants to be enslaved by Islamist law, but not help another group that has HAD IT with being ruled by a violent religion and wants freedom FROM it??
Nothing over there makes much sense to me. I'm glad to hear that virus knocked out one of the nuke places, but pretty weird they are going with it any way, even through firing it up may cause a meltdown. Geez-- insane people.... and of course that spy said what we know-- someone should have taken down the nuke plans in '09 when we had a chance. Very soon there will be nukes pointed at us from Venezuela!!!! Hey, to be really selfish here-- my family is close to that southern border, don't like the sound of that at all. Plus-- he confirmed another thing we know-- they WILL wipe out Israel, and control the majority of the world's oil. Fun times ahead with Iran--- big surprise.....

Well, krickitt, the Iranian government is supporting the rebels who want more "religion"/repression. The Iranian people KNOW what living under the mullahs amounts to.


Iran Executions Up Three Times Over Previous Year

www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/02/iran-executions-up-three-_n_817607.html

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Huffpo-- smart, Marsha. Read and weep, people. These are the people we are helping to take over the ME.

[cereb]

The truth of the matter is it wouldn't matter what Obama did with regards to Iran.

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War-- do you read any of the links people post, or just believe the thing most comfortable for you? Just wondering..

I think he "makes" the facts fit into his beliefs. In a way you have to admire his dedication to liberal causes, just like you have to admire his ability to not join into everybody else's reality. It is kind of interesting the way he looks at stuff.

*Edited to remove personal insult. Oldtex, I don't believe you're qualified to prescribe medication.* mmhmm, P&M Moderator

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I've known War for years, and actually like him, but he does live in his own little.. place.

[deziloooooo]

Jun 24, 2011 15:47:06 GMT -5 @krickitt said:

I've known War for years, and actually like him, but he does live in his own little.. place.

As does so many here krickett...Thinking the ones who post along the lines of

"Obama sucks ...because I say so..",

seems a lot of those too, so how do you explain

"he does live in his own little.. place."

Yet not explain those others??

There is a difference?