27 percent of Democrats practice religious bigotry

[ed1066]

I'm surprised it's so low...

www.salon.com/news/religion/index.html?story=/politics/war_room/2011/06/21/mormon_gallup_poll

In the coming months, Mitt Romney will doubtless battle fellow Republicans over his healthcare pedigree, and Jon Huntsman will fight for attention in the growing GOP presidential field. According to a recent Gallup poll, both candidates will also share a further challenge: The fight against anti-Morman prejudice.

The new poll, released Monday, shows that approximately one in five Americans "would not support a Mormon for president." (Broken down by political party, that's 27 percent of Democrats and almost 20 percent of Republicans and independents.)

Only homosexual and atheist candidates would be the subject of more radical voter bias, the poll suggests; 32 percent of respondents claimed they would not vote for a gay or lesbian candidate, and almost half said they would not support an atheist.

Political prejudice against Mormons seems to have remained "stable" since Gallup's first poll on the subject in 1967. By contrast, the pollster notes "steep declines in similar views toward several other groups over the past half-century, including blacks, women, Catholics, and Jews:"

The last time as many as 22% of Americans said they would not vote for any of these [other] groups was 1959 for Catholics, 1961 for Jews, 1971 for blacks, and 1975 for women. As noted, opposition to voting for each of these has since tapered off to single digits.

Finally, Gallup points out that the statistics, while certainly not encouraging for Mormon candidates, are hardly a political death sentence -- after all, "it is significant that in 1959, the year before John F. Kennedy [was elected], 25 percent of Americans ... said they would not vote for a Catholic."

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Actually... what i find most troubling in that poll is that, by age, the least tolerant group is 18-34 year olds... ?? ... too much Big Love?

[Bluerobin]

Can we get a gay mormon? That would prove interesting.

[ugonow]

Don't even get me going on the gursh durn muslims,dag dab it!!!

[bubblyandblue]

I am going to steal from ed1066's play book.
A recent study using MRI imaging to determine brain activity was applied to Democrates, Republicans and sociopaths. The test used questions related to politics and social justice. The results indicate that republicans use the part of the brain most associated with fantasy and dreams. The democrates use parts most associated with Math, logic and prefrontal cortex stimulation. The sociopaths used parts of the ancient brain most associated with suvival instincts and the common reptile.
It is therefore demonstrated that Republicans live in a fantasy world and because of that fact, they need to simplify all aurguments to the point that all other Republicans can remain in their fantasy world.
Democrates, living in the real world, constantly try to use logic and scientific method to answer questions coming from the fantasy world republicans - this of course will never break the hard wiring that has been shown through the study and, bring republicans out of their fantasy world.
The sociopaths show a strong resemblance to predators found in speculative circles of our monied interests. Like a snake, they will prey on both republicans and democrates when neither is looking. It explains their prefference for closed door meetings and back room antics.

[thyme4change]

too much Big Love?

Too much Trey Parker and Matt Stone

popwatch.ew.com/2010/04/14/book-of-mormon-south-park-broadway/

[hello fromWarsaw]

link?

[privateinvestor]

religious bigotry is alive and thriving in our body politics...Muslims, Jews, Mormons, and Christains..all have experienced it and dealt with it...some better than others..
This bigotry is fueled by the large number of hypocrites who claim to be so religious but then get caught with their pants down or doing other perverted acts....that is tough to deal with.

We had a few members on MSN boards who claimed to be deeply religious and quoted scripture in most of their posts, but yet they liked to call Veteran Veterans a bunch of baby killers and condemned them all to hell...

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I'd love to vote for a conservative Mormon. People like Harry Reid confuse me. Romney also confuses me some. I don't understand liberal Mormons. Makes me nervous.. I like Mormons, generally speaking. Many do not-- without knowing the first thing about Mormons. Some will defend the Koran worshippers and bash the Book of Mormon or the Bible or the Torah in the same breath.. weird...

[AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP]

Jun 21, 2011 14:30:56 GMT -5 Bluerobin said:

Can we get a gay mormon? That would prove interesting.

Gay Muslim would be sooooo much more fun.

[thyme4change]

I don't agree with conservative Christians any more than I do Mormons, so I can't see that being a tie-breaker for me.

[ed1066]

Jun 21, 2011 15:48:38 GMT -5 AgeOfEnlightenmentSCP said:

Jun 21, 2011 14:30:56 GMT -5 Bluerobin said:

Can we get a gay mormon? That would prove interesting.

Gay Muslim would be sooooo much more fun.

Can you imagine? The Democrats would canonize him on the spot...

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Equally strange are the ones that will bash the Koran AND the Book of Mormon at the same time while holding their Bible. Worse, even. Warring Christians, or Christians that do not like Jewish people, REALLY confuse me.

[privateinvestor]

How about a Muslim disguised as a Christain??

[bubblyandblue]

Can we get a gay mormon? That would prove interesting.
Gay Muslim would be sooooo much more fun.
Can you imagine? The Democrats would canonize him on the spot... And the republicans would sodomize him on the spot

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Self hating Jews are the ones that always confuse me.

I mean, I understand hating other people, but why hate yourself?

[privateinvestor]

Don't the Mormons excommunicate all gays form their church??? If a Mormon gay comes out of the closet I think he is shoved out the door...according to the Mormon elders

[billisonboard]

Jun 21, 2011 15:46:27 GMT -5 @krickitt said:

I'd love to vote for a conservative Mormon. People like Harry Reid confuse me. Romney also confuses me some. I don't understand liberal Mormons. ...

I hear you on this. As with most (all?) religions, there is the religious ideas side of things and then there are how to live life ideas. A belief that Jesus visited North America during his lifetime would never stop me from voting for a person. A belief that government should enforce a law that marriage should be limited to one man/one woman would give me pause. It also gives me pause when someone claims to be a member of a church with very clear social issue stances but says that they don't believe in those stances. What does it mean to be a member if you don't believe in what the church teaches? Since there is a strong contrast between what I believe and what the Morman Church teaches as their truth, I would be very reluctant to support a Morman for political office based on either their support or lack of support of chuch doctrine as it plays out in the political sphere. Does that make me "anti-Morman"? I don't think so.

[marshabar1]

Senator Reid bashed fellow Mormon Romney and embraced Jon Huntsman. Great endorsement to have...

[chiver78]

Jun 21, 2011 15:43:47 GMT -5 @privateinvestor said:

religious bigotry is alive and thriving in our body politics...Muslims, Jews, Mormons, and Christains..all have experienced it and dealt with it...some better than others..
This bigotry is fueled by the large number of hypocrites who claim to be so religious but then get caught with their pants down or doing other perverted acts....that is tough to deal with.

hmm....so am I a religious bigot because I want my elected officials to not infuse their religion into the laws that govern how I may live my life, and that they not be hypocrites about how they live their own lives while they are in office? shucks, I guess I'm a bigot then.

[❤ mollymouser ❤]

From what I've seen, most people think that THEIR chosen religion (or lack thereof) is a superior choice to what everyone else is choosing. But calling people bigots when they disagree with you is the "new" thing, I suppose.

[billisonboard]

Jun 21, 2011 16:16:30 GMT -5 ❤ mollymouser ❤ said:

From what I've seen, most people think that THEIR chosen religion (or lack thereof) is a superior choice to what everyone else is choosing. But calling people bigots when they disagree with you is the "new" thing, I suppose.

Some times, some places. Others times and places they just kill(ed) you.

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I have to agree with you on that one, bill. I can understand people separating their faith from their politics, to a point. I know you are trying to set me up, but I don't care. I'm not a social issue voter, not at all. I mean, I CARE, but at this point we are crashing and I am more in to the economy, foreign policy, stuff like that. I will look at a person's social issues, of course, but would be more wary of someone that.. say.. votes pro-choice, while claiming to be a Catholic, like Pelosi, or a Mormon, like Reid, than some person that claims no religion. One way or the other they are lying. I don't vote social issues, but I do pay attention, and inconsistent people set off my alarms. I honestly would prefer a religious person for many reasons, but not a FALSE religious person, like Obama, Pelosi, Reid... possibly Romney.
So, if you just set me up, oh well, there is time to find an honest politician before next year.

[bubblyandblue]

You must exercise a great deal of judgement when you label someone a "False Religious person". I guess I will have to defer to you when you make judgements. Oh no.

[swamp]

::So, if you just set me up, oh well, there is time to find an honest politician before next year::

maybe you'll find one at the local level, but people don't ascend to national level politics by being a honest all around great guy.

[Mkitty is pro kitty]

Hey, let's play things the Conservative way...

“But let them apostatize, and they will become gray-haired, wrinkled, and black, just like the Devil" (Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, vol. 5, p. 332)

www.christiandefense.org/mor_black.htm

"Shall I tell you the law of God in regard to the African Race? If the White man who belongs to the chosen seed mixes his blood with the seed of Cain, the penalty, under the law of God, is death on the spot. This will always be so."

www.religioustolerance.org/lds_race2.htm

Hey, since their founder was a racist, that must mean they are. I mean that's what they tell us about the founder of Planned Parenthood.

Isn't it a strange coincidence that both Mormon candidates are Republican and white?

[thyme4change]

I assume that any politician out there that says he is Christian but doesn't smash it in our faces all the time, only goes to church when (and because) his career depends on it. To me, that includes Obama, Regan, Bush I, and umpteen others. I trust those guys the most, because I doubt anything said on Sunday will change their vote on Monday.

[ed1066]

I doubt anything said on Sunday will change their vote on Monday.

Jeremiah Wright begs to differ with you...

[ugonow]

Jeremiah Wright begs to differ with you...

As do reverands Hagee,Parsley, Pat Robertson, even Ted Hagard,who have all enjoyed much more political influence than Wright.

[billisonboard]

Jun 21, 2011 16:21:31 GMT -5 @krickitt said:

I have to agree with you on that one, bill. I can understand people separating their faith from their politics, to a point. I know you are trying to set me up,...

Actually, I'm not. I grew up non-Mormon in an area with a very large Mormon population. I have moved to an area with a smaller but still definitely present Mormon population. I guess with that life experience, I have never seen that one segment of the Christian religion as that "special".