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Post by verrip1 on Jun 20, 2011 12:42:46 GMT -5
Pot, meet kettle.
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Post by marshabar1 on Jun 20, 2011 12:49:02 GMT -5
How will Obama force his will on America now?
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Post by ❤ mollymouser ❤ on Jun 20, 2011 12:50:23 GMT -5
Doesn't every President make recess appointments which annoy people of the opposing party?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2011 12:51:45 GMT -5
Well, good for them. I haven't been following politics for that long, just a few years.. shameful.. but-- if this is common practice, presidents appointing people that would not be approved by WE THE PEOPLE under normal circumstances-- I'm all for stopping it. Not just for Obama, but for all of them. If a POTUS has to wait for a break to sneak his people in-- we don't want them.
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Post by billisonboard on Jun 20, 2011 12:52:15 GMT -5
Doesn't every President make recess appointments which annoy people of the opposing party? Yes.
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Post by marshabar1 on Jun 20, 2011 12:54:20 GMT -5
Yes, but Republicans do everything in their power to work with Democrats. This administration isn't interested in governing, they prefer to impose.
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Post by Mkitty is pro kitty on Jun 20, 2011 13:01:17 GMT -5
Article Two, Section Two, Clause Three of the Constitution: The President shall have Power to fill up all Vacancies that may happen during the Recess of the Senate, by granting Commissions which shall expire at the End of their next Session. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_Two_of_the_United_States_Constitution#Clause_3:_Recess_appointmentsOh gee, more Conservatives who either don't know the Constitution or are bald faced liars. Probably the latter because you know, they'd rather play to their base and make an Obama rant du jour than actually, you know, actually fix real problems or something. What's next? Obama's veto is unconstitutional!!!1! Just ask some Freshmen Republican Congressmen, hyuk! LOL, they'd do anything to block Obama, even have "shifts" that would be useless because if people are missing, how would you get everyone's votes? Right, like trying to block a power granted in the Constitution is "everything in their power." With your argument, are you sure you're not a secret liberal?
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Post by deziloooooo on Jun 20, 2011 13:05:27 GMT -5
The Republicans have been blocking appointments to the fare thee well and boasting about it..and for no reason but political..it is about time that he POTUS is using this procedure. It is better to have those folks go through the process..longer reign, more prestigious, more clout but to not have these positions filled for over a year is ludicrous so for the one who is going to do something about it...tough nookie's, "rots of ruck"..Deal with it, and for Obama..about time.., you are late, a diss on you from this middle to the left, you should have done this so much sooner. Bad POTUS, Bad POTUS..don't let it happen again you hear! PS : To answer the question above, yes all Presidents have used this procedure when needed..ALL of them, many Republicans too.
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Post by Driftr on Jun 20, 2011 13:17:03 GMT -5
Well, good for them. I haven't been following politics for that long, just a few years.. shameful.. but-- if this is common practice, presidents appointing people that would not be approved by WE THE PEOPLE under normal circumstances-- I'm all for stopping it. Not just for Obama, but for all of them. If a POTUS has to wait for a break to sneak his people in-- we don't want them. It does happen all the time and the way I understand it is the Senate delays these things knowing the appointments will be made during recess so that this: takes place. Good example of 'the worst system of government except for all the others that have been tried (WC)' if you ask me.
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Post by cme1201 on Jun 20, 2011 13:18:04 GMT -5
[q]it is about time that he POTUS is using this procedure.[/q]
To date Obama has made 28 recess appointments since he has been in office.
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Post by floridayankee on Jun 20, 2011 13:44:03 GMT -5
[q]it is about time that he POTUS is using this procedure.[/q] To date Obama has made 28 recess appointments since he has been in office. Reagan made 243 Bush Sr made 77 Clinton made 139 Bush Jr made 171 And it's completely Constitutional to do so....and this procedure is used by both D's and R's.
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Post by cme1201 on Jun 20, 2011 13:46:08 GMT -5
[q]it is about time that he POTUS is using this procedure.[/q] To date Obama has made 28 recess appointments since he has been in office. Clinton made 139 Bush made 171 And it's completely Constitutional to do so....and this procedure is used by both D's and R's. Yes I know that, I was pointing out to Deziloooooo that Obama has been using it for a while, to counter his point of it is about time that he POTUS is using this procedure
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2011 13:47:17 GMT -5
Maybe this is one of the reasons our country is on the skids?? POTUS' appointing their buddies to high places because they would not get approved otherwise?
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Post by floridayankee on Jun 20, 2011 13:50:27 GMT -5
Yes I know that, I was pointing out to Deziloooooo that Obama has been using it for a while, to counter his point of it is about time that he POTUS is using this procedureGot ya...BTW, updated the numbers with Reagan and Bush Sr. Folks are act like recess appointments are some new, mystical Dr. Evil style democrat plot or something.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2011 13:51:41 GMT -5
Dez has such faith in Obama. I USED to believe in people that way, now it is pretty much I will give them a chance.. very wary.. and see what they can do to prove themselves. IMO Obama has failed. I didn't vote for him, but he has failed to do what he told the people that voted for him that he would do. He has hurt not only the special interest Obama people, but every person in this country with his lies and failed policies.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2011 13:52:42 GMT -5
Maybe not new-- but I applaud these new guys for trying to get rid of the practice. For GOOD. KNOWING the next guy will also be affected, I see it as a really honest and for the people kind of thing-- which is exactly why they were elected.. remember?
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Post by verrip1 on Jun 20, 2011 13:54:58 GMT -5
I'm sure the practice started earlier, but the nomination I remember most was Bork for the Supremes. It was so infamous that the verb 'borking' was created to describe the dirty trick methodology used by the Democrats to keep him off the court. Both parties escalated tactics for all nominations after that. Now it's become an ingrained part of the process.
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Post by deziloooooo on Jun 20, 2011 14:54:02 GMT -5
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Post by mmhmm on Jun 20, 2011 14:59:58 GMT -5
Doesn't every President make recess appointments which annoy people of the opposing party? Absolutely. This has been an ongoing whine. Nothing new to see.
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Post by swamp on Jun 20, 2011 15:00:19 GMT -5
Yes, but Republicans do everything in their power to work with Democrats. <<snort>> You're kidding me, right? Both parties spend their time bickering and one upping the other party instead of doing their jobs.
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Post by chiver78 on Jun 20, 2011 15:00:51 GMT -5
Yes, but Republicans do everything in their power to work with Democrats. you mean like working through and finding a solution that worked for everyone with the health care bill? oh wait, they just wanted to sit around and complain about it before they voted against it. yeah, that's great collaboration going on from that side of the aisle. ETA: great minds think alike, swamp!
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Post by deziloooooo on Jun 20, 2011 15:01:32 GMT -5
Maybe not new-- but I applaud these new guys for trying to get rid of the practice. For GOOD. KNOWING the next guy will also be affected, I see it as a really honest and for the people kind of thing-- which is exactly why they were elected.. remember? These position need to be filled, the hearings are to actually examine the credentials of..bring out the qualifications of and the non qualifications of, and if really objectionable then to deny, however Krickett, thiose guys , both parties depending who is in office, see Bushes having to use them, have gotten to use these hold ups politically so unless you are for legislatures holding up what is a necessary part of giovernment , filling or not these positions , needed positions being filled, because of Partison Politics why would you be so in favor of them so doing ..just makes no sense to me. your enthusiastic support for them It wouldn't be because it is the current POTUS appointments that are being held up here and it's pubs who are holding them up for the most part would it ? If so your reasoning is a little disingenius to me..
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Post by Bluerobin on Jun 20, 2011 15:52:51 GMT -5
Didn't Bush and every other president play this game too? Change the law, and you can do something. Otherwise, shut up.
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Post by Angel! on Jun 20, 2011 17:21:41 GMT -5
Yes, but Republicans do everything in their power to work with Democrats. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Freaking hilarious!
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Post by lakhota on Jun 20, 2011 17:47:01 GMT -5
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Post by cme1201 on Jun 20, 2011 18:35:13 GMT -5
Senate Republicans are using a parliamentary trick to block President Obama from making any recess appointments during the Senate's Memorial Day break It is something that has to be done ever congressional break if they intend to stop it, Now if they could just do the job they were sent there during this time, it might be worthwhile.
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