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Post by NoMoreLunacy on Jun 18, 2011 18:22:30 GMT -5
Is it legal to deny service of any sort - medical, transportation, what have you - to welfare recipients? Is it moral to do so? Can people get fired for denying such service?
Just curious.
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Post by cereb on Jun 18, 2011 18:36:31 GMT -5
Hmmmm.
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Post by NoMoreLunacy on Jun 18, 2011 18:37:58 GMT -5
Yes?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2011 18:39:22 GMT -5
I have a question about welfare
I have about a million questions about welfare.
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Post by NoMoreLunacy on Jun 18, 2011 18:41:24 GMT -5
But do you have any answers?
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Post by BeenThere...DoneThat... on Jun 18, 2011 18:43:30 GMT -5
Is it legal to deny service of any sort - medical, transportation, what have you - to welfare recipients? Is it moral to do so? Can people get fired for denying such service? Just curious. ...yes, n/a, yes... imo...  |
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Post by Mad Dawg Wiccan on Jun 18, 2011 18:43:54 GMT -5
Off the top of my head, I can't think of any services which would be legal to deny. However, I can think of many services in which it would be legal to deny taxpayer taxpayer funds to pay for it.
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Post by ❤ mollymouser ❤ on Jun 18, 2011 21:11:08 GMT -5
How are you defining welfare?
People receiving SNAP benefits? People receiving Section 8 assistance? People receiving TANF? People receiving Medicaid? People receiving SSI?
What exactly do you mean by "denying service?"
Businesses don't have an obligation to provide free merchandise and services to those people who cannot pay for them. Are you speaking of denying services that cost money, or just arbitrarily saying "Welfare Recipients May Not Eat in Our Restaurant?"
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2011 21:13:46 GMT -5
I hope its not 'Welfare recipients can not use the library."
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Post by NoMoreLunacy on Jun 18, 2011 21:47:51 GMT -5
How are you defining welfare? People receiving SNAP benefits? People receiving Section 8 assistance? People receiving TANF? People receiving Medicaid? People receiving SSI? What exactly do you mean by "denying service?" Businesses don't have an obligation to provide free merchandise and services to those people who cannot pay for them. Are you speaking of denying services that cost money, or just arbitrarily saying "Welfare Recipients May Not Eat in Our Restaurant?" For the definition, I don't know, you better ask people who liberally use the term "welfare rats". For the action of the service provider, it would be like "welfare recipients may not eat here, or get medical service here, or get a cab ride, or whatever". |
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Post by NoMoreLunacy on Jun 18, 2011 21:48:36 GMT -5
I hope its not 'Welfare recipients can not use the library." That too. How about a librarian who refuses to admit welfare recipients? OK, or not? Fire him/her, or give a medal? |
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Post by NoMoreLunacy on Jun 18, 2011 21:49:19 GMT -5
Off the top of my head, I can't think of any services which would be legal to deny.
Actually it is legal. For example, doctors can refuse to take Medicaid patients.
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Post by NoMoreLunacy on Jun 18, 2011 21:49:56 GMT -5
Is it legal to deny service of any sort - medical, transportation, what have you - to welfare recipients? Is it moral to do so? Can people get fired for denying such service? Just curious. ...yes, n/a, yes... imo... Why would people get fired for doing something completely legal? Is it unethical then? |
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Post by BeenThere...DoneThat... on Jun 18, 2011 21:55:43 GMT -5
...yes, n/a, yes... imo... Why would people get fired for doing something completely legal? Is it unethical then? ...any number of reasons, maybe... imo... |
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Post by verrip1 on Jun 18, 2011 21:55:57 GMT -5
I've read that welfare recipients in Florida will be given special medical services which are not available free to rich people: specifically, drug tests. I'm optimistic that you'll find that conservatives on this board will support giving them this special medical service and deny giving it to the uberrich.
Quite moral, no?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2011 21:59:24 GMT -5
What is the diagnostic value of that test to the recipient?
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Post by NoMoreLunacy on Jun 18, 2011 22:02:13 GMT -5
Why would people get fired for doing something completely legal? Is it unethical then? ...any number of reasons, maybe... imo... Don't hurt yourself. |
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Post by NoMoreLunacy on Jun 18, 2011 22:03:42 GMT -5
I've read that welfare recipients in Florida will be given special medical services which are not available free to rich people: specifically, drug tests. I'm optimistic that you'll find that conservatives on this board will support giving them this special medical service and deny giving it to the uberrich. Quite moral, no?  This is an excellent point. For every welfare recipient getting a drug test, a rich conservative has to get one too. Fair's fair. Why shoul the poor always mooch off of the rich? |
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Post by verrip1 on Jun 18, 2011 22:05:04 GMT -5
What is the diagnostic value of that test to the recipient? Why, it might prove that an unloving spouse is surreptitiously poisoning their partner. Have you no compassion for the plight of innocents? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2011 22:06:12 GMT -5
Oh... is that the intent... must have missed it in my reading...  |
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Post by verrip1 on Jun 18, 2011 22:09:22 GMT -5
Oh... is that the intent... must have missed it in my reading... Perhaps you read the liberal main stream media too much. Try Fox. |
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Post by Tennesseer on Jun 18, 2011 23:20:55 GMT -5
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Post by ❤ mollymouser ❤ on Jun 18, 2011 23:32:33 GMT -5
How would a business (say, a restaurant) even KNOW a person was receiving "welfare" (however it is defined)?
I do know that in California, landlords are not legally required to accept Section 8 tenants, because to do so places limits on their ability to make certain charges and rent increases, and mandates a number of repairs and requirements that they might otherwise choose not to make.
I see nothing immoral in a California landlord choosing not to accept Section 8 tenants.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2011 7:21:34 GMT -5
Maybe they should wear a scarlet W on their chests..
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Post by NoMoreLunacy on Jun 19, 2011 13:16:08 GMT -5
LOL Enough with the insider jokes already. Spill the beans. |
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Post by Mad Dawg Wiccan on Jun 19, 2011 13:43:14 GMT -5
I misunderstood your OP, I thought you meant was it legal for the government to deny services, not individuals or businesses.
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Post by ❤ mollymouser ❤ on Jun 19, 2011 19:21:54 GMT -5
I think the OP is remarkably UNCLEAR.
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