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Post by naggie72 on Jan 3, 2011 13:46:48 GMT -5
While at the ER sat I sat talking to an older lady, around 60. She had fallen and hit her head pretty hard. During the conversation I found out she lives alone and has depended on her immediate neighbors if needed, but they are having their own issues with age. I know where she works and I think I caught her name when she was called. A couple of years ago I developed a charity to help older people, team up a young couple with an elderly person for them to rely on. Have not put this charity into practice but have loads of notes and ideas, it is even named after my grandmother "The Silvia Faye Foundation" Anyhoo I would love to make sure she is ok, I might try to find an address for her and write her a letter. Don't like the idea of an older person being alone in the city.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2011 13:50:00 GMT -5
What did you do to develop the charity if it hasn't done anything?
Anyway, be careful with this kind of thing. At a minimum you want to do police checks on your volunteers. Then there is training for various situations, especially health situations, that might come up. Setting this up in a formal way would be a lot of work.
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Post by privateinvestor on Jan 3, 2011 13:59:44 GMT -5
The IR receptionist at the Hospital that I go to is extremely rude and very obnoxious and talks to you with her mouth full of a donut or other snack that she eats while attending to customers. And when you tell her why you there ; she insists you be brief with your description..
So a bud of mine tried to tell her that he was having eye trouble and she said "Be Brief" and then he said that he doesn't take Viagra or any other medications that could effect his vision but noticed in addition to his blurred vision he was urinating rather slow and again she said "Briefly I said" so he said OK " It is my eye and I can pee out of it"
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Post by Tennesseer on Jan 3, 2011 13:59:55 GMT -5
Naggie-why not work with the hospital to help with following up with senior patients. Maybe something like checking in with them after a hospital visit. Of course there would be problems with that due to HIPAA laws.
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Post by naggie72 on Jan 3, 2011 14:13:38 GMT -5
Yes, the details are of course not ironed out, it was an idea that I would put into place within the capabilities of myself. The first thing I aim to do is to get involved with the elder charities already in place.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Jan 3, 2011 14:14:58 GMT -5
You will want to be very careful here, Naggie.
I have an elderly neighbor that lives in the apartment underneath me that I befriended. I kept an eye out for her, cleared off her car in the winter, hauled her groceries in/trash out and invited her out to dinner a couple times/mo.
In early November, I went to dinner with her Friday night. Saturday afternoon I noticed that her newspaper was still on her doorstep in early afternoon, but didn't think anything of it. Her Sunday paper was also on her doorstep early Sunday afternoon, so I thought that her daughter (who lives out of town) had picked her up to take her for a visit. When I left for work Monday, the third paper was on her doorstep and made a mental note to call her at work. I called her around noon, didn't get an answer but was busy and didn't think anything else about it until I got home from the gym around 7. I knocked on her door, no answer so I tried to call her again, took a shower and again called. No answer. Finally, I called emergency maintenence of the apartment complex and they brought a key over. We banged on the door, tried to look in the window. No answer. So he opened the door and the inside lock was thrown. He went to get a hacksaw and I called 911.
EMS got there just about the time we broke into her apartment and she *finally* woke up. She had been sick and sleeping like the dead. Her vitals were ok and she refused to go to the hospital in the ambulance. EMS couldn't force her and I could not convince her to go either.
She was royally pissed off at me that I had broken into her apartment. I tried to explain to her that I didn't want to hang over her head, but I watch to see her paper leave her doorstep, her blinds open and close and expect her to answer my calls occasionally.
Something changed during this time and somehow, I have now become responsible for her. Unfortunately, it's at a time where I can least afford to spend a lot of time making sure someone else is ok because it's difficult enough for me to take care of me. Honestly, I'm starting to resent the responsiblity her family has dumped on me. I went away for Thanksgiving, Christmas and will be gone for about 6 weeks in Feb. for surgery so during this time she's going to have to deal with things herself.
It's very difficult to find the line between someone who wants their independence desperately and needs help and you may find yourself caught in the crossfire.
JMHO
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Post by ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ on Jan 3, 2011 14:31:50 GMT -5
I've also read some of your previous posts, Naggie and it seems your life is pretty full already. This endeavor would require you to devote a LOT of time researching getting set -up, the legalities, any liability issues, etc, etc. Then IF it was in place, even more time in screening volunteers, doing background checks, organizing schedules, making sure the volunteers were compatible with their charges, and the list goes on......If you've never had any previous experience in this type of work, I think you might be overwhelmed with the responsibility and enormous workload you'd be taking on and also having to be 'on-call' 24/7.
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Post by bobosensei on Jan 3, 2011 14:38:52 GMT -5
Makes me wonder what the woman did to her family that they don't want to help take care of her, but I don't consider 60 to be old either.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jan 3, 2011 14:41:11 GMT -5
Does she even want your help? Just because she relies on her neighbors does not mean she is needy. They may be a crowd of those old people who would rather break a hip than admit they need help.
She may not be alone at all, she may just not think her family needs to be involved in everything.
We had an elderly woman of about 90 in our neighborhood who was extremely independent. She left for the day without notifying family or neighbors. My dad had seen her leave. He comes home to find the police knocking on her door because they had been called by her family. He strides over and tells them she isn't home. She gets home and she is PISSED! She told my dad that she is 90 years old and if she wants to leave the house she should not have to notify her family of it!!
Elderly doesn't always mean frail and in need of help. Her elderly neighbors may be more than competent enough to help each other out in their community and prefer that compared to burdening family members or having to live with assistance.
I can also see a ton of legal issues concerning elderly abuse with your charity. The legwork to get yourself covered for liability and to screen for volunteers alone is going to require massive man hours to complete. Then you are going to have to deal with volunteer schedules, compatability issues etc.
My grandmother did not drive or know how to do anything around the house. So my parents had to step up and it is a HUGE burden and takes over quite a bit of your life. I can't see a ton of young people volunteering that much time to an elderly person's needs.
There is a fine line between occassionally picking up groceries and being expected to be someone's caretaker. Which one are you going to expect your volunteers to be?
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Post by ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ on Jan 3, 2011 14:44:41 GMT -5
That's pretty much what I said too, DQ.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jan 3, 2011 14:46:29 GMT -5
Well I said it better so neener neener.
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Post by Bluerobin on Jan 3, 2011 14:49:08 GMT -5
Some of us don't think of 60 as elderly!
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Post by swamp on Jan 3, 2011 15:25:47 GMT -5
While at the ER sat I sat talking to an older lady, around 60. She had fallen and hit her head pretty hard. During the conversation I found out she lives alone and has depended on her immediate neighbors if needed, but they are having their own issues with age. I know where she works and I think I caught her name when she was called. A couple of years ago I developed a charity to help older people, team up a young couple with an elderly person for them to rely on. Have not put this charity into practice but have loads of notes and ideas, it is even named after my grandmother "The Silvia Faye Foundation" Anyhoo I would love to make sure she is ok, I might try to find an address for her and write her a letter. Don't like the idea of an older person being alone in the city. If I were the lady in the ER, I'd think you were a creepy stalker. But that's just me............... She's 60 and still works, I don't really see that as someone who needs looking after. Naggie, I think your heart is in the right place, but you are assuming a ton of liability and work. How about volunteering at some kind of eldercare center, or the County's Office of the Aging/Elderly Services first before you go starting a foundation?
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Post by ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ on Jan 3, 2011 15:28:21 GMT -5
Indeed you did......
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Post by The J on Jan 3, 2011 15:30:20 GMT -5
Ladies! Please! For the sake of the forum stop fighting! Until you take off your clothes, that is.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jan 3, 2011 15:35:51 GMT -5
Until you take off your clothes, that is.Who said I was wearing any?
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Post by swamp on Jan 3, 2011 15:37:14 GMT -5
Until you take off your clothes, that is.Who said I was wearing any? Isn't that against OSHA regs? I mean, you don't want to get your boob caught in a centrifuge or anything.....
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Post by ՏՇԾԵԵʅՏɧ_LԹՏՏʅҼ on Jan 3, 2011 15:38:54 GMT -5
J just wants to get pictures, DQ. Don't pay any attention to him.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jan 3, 2011 15:41:00 GMT -5
I mean, you don't want to get your boob caught in a centrifuge or anything I don't? THere is no sign telling me not to do that.
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Post by swamp on Jan 3, 2011 15:43:05 GMT -5
I mean, you don't want to get your boob caught in a centrifuge or anything I don't? THere is no sign telling me not to do that. OK, go ahead and try it. Lemme know how it works out for you.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jan 3, 2011 15:45:39 GMT -5
Lemme know how it works out for youI'm going to invent the next exercise craze! Think of how many calories you can burn while spinning at 13,000 rpms!
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Post by NancysSummerSip on Jan 3, 2011 15:46:51 GMT -5
I was about to ask how this thread disintegrated from helping the elderly to trapped tatas, but then I looked up and realized I was on EE. Silly me.
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Post by swamp on Jan 3, 2011 15:47:47 GMT -5
Lemme know how it works out for youI'm going to invent the next exercise craze! Think of how many calories you can burn while spinning at 13,000 rpms! <<water on the monitor>> Gives spinning class a whole new character..........
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jan 3, 2011 15:51:42 GMT -5
Now I just need to figure out how to get the lid to go down and seal. . .
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2011 16:05:00 GMT -5
60 is old? By whose standards? And don't forget, the older we get, the farther away old age is. Naggie's probably in her 40s...we'll see how old she thinks 60 is in another 10 years.
My Best Aunt will be 86 in March. She still cross-country skis in winter and bicycles in summer. Swims four times a week at the college pool and walks four miles a day except when it's pouring rain or there's a blizzard. When that happens, she walks the indoor track at the college.
She's not forgetful, deaf, or going blind, and she lives alone.
Wait, I'm forgetful...she'll be 87 in March.
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Post by swamp on Jan 3, 2011 16:06:14 GMT -5
I think the '72 in Naggie's screen name is her year of birth, which would make her 38.
I'm 40, but I don't think 60 is old by any stretch.
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Post by Regie on Jan 3, 2011 16:14:00 GMT -5
DQ I was just wincing in pain thinking of that. Ouch
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Post by The J on Jan 3, 2011 16:16:32 GMT -5
J just wants to get pictures, DQ. Don't pay any attention to him. I don't know what you're talking about.... <<now where did I leave the other lenses....>>
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jan 3, 2011 16:23:13 GMT -5
J, have you been taking lessons from Omni?
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Post by 973beachbum on Jan 3, 2011 16:27:10 GMT -5
I definitely feel older than just a few years ago and I KNOW I'm not old, but when did 60 become elderly?
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