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Post by deziloooooo on May 11, 2011 15:21:22 GMT -5
Wow, I saw Ed got banned for mod bashing on an open discussion thread about board issues. I better leave this thread. I thought we were trying to resolve problems here. Don't know why, but I thought maybe this was a free zone to look for some clarity. Back to real politics for me. Oops! I read one of Ed's own posts saying he'd earned a three day vacation for bashing mods. I don't know if he's banned or not. Confusing. Probably playing golf. Too windy here. I was confused at first too, but realized it was not ed posting to himself, moon's comment on the post of ed's , that was removed and her statement. What threw me off was no sign off as Tenn does , when he does his mod thing...identyfying what role he is in, no sign off w/ moon.
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Post by marshabar1 on May 11, 2011 15:27:28 GMT -5
my main wish/desire is just for people to not put down other posters. i know there are going to be disagreements - vehement ones- due to various opinions. the fact that someone thinks differently makes them no less intelligent than anyone else though. i also despise blanket statements being made about groups of people, whether it has to do with race, religion, political party, etc. ok... i've rambled enough now. Moon, Most posters here know who the trolls are in that they never contribute anything other than to say that Dems or Republicans suck. Most people also know the bias that different posters have, as well as the extremes of their bias. The people that you hear from the most are most likely the ones that feel they are the most unfairly moderated against. People are bound to throw some snarky comments out (have you seen some of the titles of threads from both sides?). It can get a little charged at times, but most probably don't take it too personally most of the time. While there are rules on this board that I do not care for, such as not being able to criticize mods who I feel may be abusing their power and not moderating evenly across the board, I still try to follow the rules and contribute to the conversation. There are times when I've had enough, and I would guess that most posters from both sides of the political spectrum can relate to this happening to them. It is only when attacks become constant that it really seems to get to posters....not the occasional "you're a crybaby" comment. Everyone knows trolls are people who never discuss anything except other members. And when they voice an opinion it is always about another person voicing an opinion about a current event. And they usually hang out in packs one egging the other on to new heights of creativity in baiting, badgering, obfuscating, spewing really really close to the line in an effort to provoke an outburst. That outburst is their special troll food that they love to feed on, tastes like salty tears to them. And then they get all pretend hurt and goodie two shoes like butter wouldn't melt in their mouths and oh dear how can you be so unpatriotic or racist or homophobic or inhuman? If they're lucky they get a big ban on a member who was merely expressing an opinion about something they knew nothing about. That is like a cherry on top of the salty tears sundae they adore. Yummmmmyy! Oh dear, I hope no one around here is offended by a blanket statement about the hobbits of trolls.
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Post by billisonboard on May 11, 2011 15:33:35 GMT -5
What a very cute mental slip.
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Post by marshabar1 on May 11, 2011 15:33:42 GMT -5
Wow, I saw Ed got banned for mod bashing on an open discussion thread about board issues. I better leave this thread. I thought we were trying to resolve problems here. Don't know why, but I thought maybe this was a free zone to look for some clarity. Back to real politics for me. Oops! I read one of Ed's own posts saying he'd earned a three day vacation for bashing mods. I don't know if he's banned or not. Confusing. Probably playing golf. Too windy here. Oh now I see. Announcements of a banning are done within the deleted post of the person being banned. Yes, Ed is banned for three days for saying a moderator posted a complaint made to him/her on the forum. Or discussed it or chided or something. I have a hard time keeping up with all this board politics. Did we ever get it clarified if we're supposed to report it if a member is being abused by others?
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2011 15:41:23 GMT -5
I don't know, Marsha, but I have started a board favs files to CMA for the first time ever.
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Post by jarhead1976 on May 11, 2011 15:42:54 GMT -5
Marsha some here say what ever they feel. About whom ever. When the tables are turned and called on the issue being discussed they have nothing to say. Always trying to redirect the topic by personal attacks. Many a good thread has been stopped by such incoherent nonsense. To everyone I am as guilty as can be. I refuse to take it. Why should I have to defend myself and not the point being discussed?
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Post by marshabar1 on May 11, 2011 15:53:42 GMT -5
Marsha some here say what ever they feel. About whom ever. When the tables are turned and called on the issue being discussed they have nothing to say. Always trying to redirect the topic by personal attacks. Many a good thread has been stopped by such incoherent nonsense. To everyone I am as guilty as can be. I refuse to take it. Why should I have to defend myself and not the point being discussed? Because a troll is a troll is a troll is a troll, no matter what kind of uniform they wear. Usually what I do when they get busy on a thread is just go find some other news item I am interested in discussing. And again. . . . And again . . . Face it, jarhead, dealing with trolls is like mucking out the Stygian stables.
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Post by magichat on May 11, 2011 15:55:49 GMT -5
Marsha some here say what ever they feel. About whom ever. When the tables are turned and called on the issue being discussed they have nothing to say. Always trying to redirect the topic by personal attacks. Many a good thread has been stopped by such incoherent nonsense. To everyone I am as guilty as can be. I refuse to take it. Why should I have to defend myself and not the point being discussed? Because a troll is a troll is a troll is a troll, no matter what kind of uniform they wear. Usually what I do when they get busy on a thread is just go find some other news item I am interested in discussing. And again. . . . And again . . . Face it, jarhead, dealing with trolls is like mucking out the Stygian stables. Hmm... some would say spamming the board is trolling instead of contributing to discussions...just sayin.
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Post by marshabar1 on May 11, 2011 16:00:44 GMT -5
Because a troll is a troll is a troll is a troll, no matter what kind of uniform they wear. Usually what I do when they get busy on a thread is just go find some other news item I am interested in discussing. And again. . . . And again . . . Face it, jarhead, dealing with trolls is like mucking out the Stygian stables. Hmm... some would say spamming the board is trolling instead of contributing to discussions...just sayin. What trying to start an adult discussion among members of a discussion forum about a current issue is spamming? Did not know that. Your contribution to the discussion falls under the butter doesn't melt in mouth classification btw. You didn't call me any names and you're acting all innocent. Now leave me alone. ;D
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2011 16:05:30 GMT -5
Once someone has told you how they feel about you in personal terms it is very difficult to ever have a discussion with them again. I mean, what's the point? And another thing-- once I am told "how I am" I hear it loud and clear, and do not need to be told over and over.
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Post by marshabar1 on May 11, 2011 16:12:55 GMT -5
Once someone has told you how they feel about you in personal terms it is very difficult to ever have a discussion with them again. I mean, what's the point? And another thing-- once I am told "how I am" I hear it loud and clear, and do not need to be told over and over. Well except for pleasure of course. . . Theirs! Yuuummmmmeeee!!! By the way I have it from headquarters that it is absolutely not okay to egg on the abuse of another member. I ???assume we are welcome to report such incidents.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2011 16:28:39 GMT -5
I have a moral aversion to snitching. Also an aversion to being a doormat.... and an aversion to letting people win by baiting me in to a response that will get me in trouble. Something has to give here, and it is me, obviously. Time to find a place to stand.... just not sure yet what will work in my best interest..... Next year will be intense, with the elections and all. Moon may need medication to survive an election season on a political board. (That was a joke) ;D Hopefully I will be working by then and miss the fun. ;D
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Post by marshabar1 on May 11, 2011 16:32:29 GMT -5
How are you coming along, krickitt?
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Post by marshabar1 on May 11, 2011 16:34:08 GMT -5
I have a moral aversion to snitching. Also an aversion to being a doormat.... and an aversion to letting people win by baiting me in to a response that will get me in trouble. Something has to give here, and it is me, obviously. Time to find a place to stand.... just not sure yet what will work in my best interest..... Next year will be intense, with the elections and all. Moon may need medication to survive an election season on a political board. (That was a joke) ;D Hopefully I will be working by then and miss the fun. ;D I don't have a moral aversion to snitching I don't think. But I am afraid of getting my ass kicked. ;D
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2011 16:47:53 GMT -5
LOL, Marsha!!! I just think telling moon is like calling the cops because your neighbor's dog pooped in your yard. I'd rather spray the dog down and make it go away.
I'm coming along. Full motion in hand, wrist, and fingers now, elbow still won't straighten out completely, working it slowly every day. FULL range of motion in hip now-- can sleep on my side!!! YEA!! Do not limp with walker, cannot walk without walker, not even trying yet, pain says NO. I can stand up straight now that I have 2 hands to hold on with. Arm too weak for crutches still. I can take a BATH!!! No strength in arm or hand, but getting better daily. Just a matter of time, patience... which is hard for me. Kids only have to help me with preparing food, other than that I can take care of myself. Virtually no pain anywhere. THX for all your help with the nurse connection.
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Post by magichat on May 11, 2011 16:50:24 GMT -5
Hmm... some would say spamming the board is trolling instead of contributing to discussions...just sayin. What trying to start an adult discussion among members of a discussion forum about a current issue is spamming? Did not know that. Your contribution to the discussion falls under the butter doesn't melt in mouth classification btw. You didn't call me any names and you're acting all innocent. Now leave me alone. ;D Marsha I am sorrow that I offer a bitter pill to swallow. If that pill makes you think I am troll I don't know what to tell you other than get over it, and frankly you have no leg to stand on to tell me to leave you alone. I can comment on your threads, end of story.
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Post by marshabar1 on May 11, 2011 16:53:47 GMT -5
LOL, Marsha!!! I just think telling moon is like calling the cops because your neighbor's dog pooped in your yard. I'd rather spray the dog down and make it go away. I'm coming along. Full motion in hand, wrist, and fingers now, elbow still won't straighten out completely, working it slowly every day. FULL range of motion in hip now-- can sleep on my side!!! YEA!! Do not limp with walker, cannot walk without walker, not even trying yet, pain says NO. I can stand up straight now that I have 2 hands to hold on with. Arm too weak for crutches still. I can take a BATH!!! No strength in arm or hand, but getting better daily. Just a matter of time, patience... which is hard for me. Kids only have to help me with preparing food, other than that I can take care of myself. Virtually no pain anywhere. THX for all your help with the nurse connection. Wow! Krickitt this is great! I'm copying and sending to nurse connection.
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Post by deziloooooo on May 11, 2011 16:56:35 GMT -5
Oops! I read one of Ed's own posts saying he'd earned a three day vacation for bashing mods. I don't know if he's banned or not. Confusing. Probably playing golf. Too windy here. Oh now I see. Announcements of a banning are done within the deleted post of the person being banned. Yes, Ed is banned for three days for saying a moderator posted a complaint made to him/her on the forum. Or discussed it or chided or something. I have a hard time keeping up with all this board politics. Did we ever get it clarified if we're supposed to report it if a member is being abused by others? Why not, if one see's a crime being committed or THINKS something is not right , call 911, then they investigate, possible yes, possible no, but citizens have done all that they could do, let authorities come to the rescuse or decide if crime reported is a crime. Naturally it should be important as to not waste time with trivial complaints. Here some back and forth expected , but seriouse infractions stand out like a sore thumb as the old cliche says.
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Post by marshabar1 on May 11, 2011 16:58:46 GMT -5
Have you seen any egging on today for example, Dezi? I think I might be seeing things.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2011 16:59:55 GMT -5
So comment on her threads, and not her personality. If you don't like her don't talk to her.
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Post by marshabar1 on May 11, 2011 17:03:19 GMT -5
So comment on her threads, and not her personality. If you don't like her don't talk to her. Who you talkin' to.. . .
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Post by deziloooooo on May 11, 2011 17:03:44 GMT -5
Have you seen any egging on today for example, Dezi? I think I might be seeing things. Nope think you are thinking of making it a thing on the reporting of..I have over time on some, and some have been ignored, guess they didn';t see what I THOUGHT I saw, no biggie, never a peep from me but not many reports, just the ones that are so obviouse and usually, there is a response from on high so guess they saw the same thing.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2011 17:07:57 GMT -5
LOL, Marsha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by moon/Laura on May 11, 2011 17:08:20 GMT -5
ok... this is flat out ridiculous.. this thread was NEVER supposed to be an 'air the dirty laundry free for all' that it has because.. mod bashing has been against the rules for a while now, and while i don't owe any of you an explanation, ed was not banned for not providing 'proof' of accusations.
all i am seeing right now is a couple of posters that are repeatedly keeping the ugliness going. you know who you are and it WILL stop, right here, right now. because the next thing i see that could be even remotely construed as baiting /egging/ whatever along those lines -on this thread or any other- you are out the door. i'm tired of trying to play nice.
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Post by marshabar1 on May 11, 2011 18:12:09 GMT -5
Well, I'm more confused than ever about the COC. Truly.
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Post by domeasingold on May 11, 2011 18:12:44 GMT -5
Marsh......Shut the front door!
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Post by marshabar1 on May 11, 2011 18:19:03 GMT -5
Oh gosh, I'm just trying to understand how it works. Forget about it, huh? You're probably right.
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Post by billisonboard on May 11, 2011 18:40:42 GMT -5
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Post by Politically_Incorrect12 on May 11, 2011 18:48:36 GMT -5
I don't particularly feel the need to email moon, who has said she already gets too many emails, when I have an issue with any particular poster, moderator, etc. I'd rather just tell the poster, along with what I have a problem with, and move on. I don't see a need to keep it all private if one feels it is a consistent problem. I also don't feel the need to hit the report abuse option, unless something is obvious spam.
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Post by Value Buy on May 11, 2011 18:49:16 GMT -5
Since we are now told how important PM'S are, can I suggest Moonbeam adds directly under the exalt button, a........... "# of PM'S to mods".......... running tally button? This would tell us who we should not bother talking to on the thread to avoid all undo negativity, and stop all the reporting, based on the number of PM'S listed.............Also rethink some of the emoticons, and remove some that are perceived as offensive, such as, And, no I am not being snarky
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