cme1201
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Post by cme1201 on May 12, 2011 12:24:07 GMT -5
No. 1: George SorosAmount donated in 2010: $332-million Beneficiary: Open Society Foundations Donor’s background: Mr. Soros is chairman of Soros Fund Management, a New York firm that manages hedge funds, and is the founder of the Open Society Foundations, with headquarters in New York. philanthropy.com/article/No-1-George-Soros/126150/ So he donated 332million dollars to himself? www.soros.org/aboutGeorge Soros is founder and chairman of the Open Society Foundations. He is generous to a fault, to himself.
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Post by Mkitty is pro kitty on May 12, 2011 12:49:58 GMT -5
George Soros is not a foundation. Open Society Foundations is not a person.
So by using your logic, if you founded and chaired a charity hospital, then gave $200 million dollars to it, you'd be a hospital, then. And you'd be generous to a fault, to yourself. Let's hope it's a mental hospital you founded.
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cme1201
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Post by cme1201 on May 12, 2011 12:56:58 GMT -5
If I am the Founder and Chairman of a business and I donate money to the business I am in fact donating money to myself for the express intrest of helping myself.
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cme1201
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Post by cme1201 on May 12, 2011 12:58:06 GMT -5
George Soros is not a foundation. Open Society Foundations is not a person. So by using your logic, if you founded and chaired a charity hospital, then gave $200 million dollars to it, you'd be a hospital, then. And you'd be generous to a fault, to yourself. Let's hope it's a mental hospital you founded. Kitty, Do you even have an understanding of what it means to be personable?
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Post by shelby on May 12, 2011 13:16:18 GMT -5
What exactly is wrong with being progressive? Isn't part of being successful and innovative the ability to adapt to the changing world around you? Isn't the ability to change and adapt to changing social and global issues a good thing? Seriously bashing somebody for standing up for civil liberties and human rights is just sickening. Maybe you don't like his other politics but attacking these things makes you look like a sociopath. Seems some people want no progress for society and refuse to see the changing world around them just more of the same and a push to bring us back a few centuries.
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cme1201
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Post by cme1201 on May 12, 2011 13:24:07 GMT -5
What exactly is wrong with being progressive? Isn't part of being successful and innovative the ability to adapt to the changing world around you? Isn't the ability to change and adapt to changing social and global issues a good thing? Seriously bashing somebody for standing up for civil liberties and human rights is just sickening. Maybe you don't like his other politics but attacking these things makes you look like a sociopath. Seems some people want no progress for society and refuse to see the changing world around them just more of the same and a push to bring us back a few centuries. If this is directed at me, you are way off. Someone decided to link how much George Soros gave to the Open Socities Foundation, which is a foundation that George Soros founded and is the chairman of. All I stated was the fact that he is generous to himself.
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Post by Savoir Faire-Demogague in NJ on May 12, 2011 13:28:37 GMT -5
RE: George Soros... I heard that Soros will be running and/or involved in the drilling for oil in South America/Brazil that the prez was down there a few weeks ago promoting and promising Federal money to assist in the development of oil rigs.
Anyone hear of this?
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Post by shelby on May 12, 2011 13:31:47 GMT -5
From OP
"Among the goals of this program is to raise public consciousness about human rights abuses and restrictions of civil liberties, to engage citizens in debate about these issues, and to give voice to diverse speech—all which are crucial to an open society. SDF started awarding grants in 1996 because the visual medium of film and video has enormous potential for effecting social change, increasing awareness and debate on significant human rights issues.
This is the hero of the far left."
As if admiring these things is inherantly wrong. Could have left this whole sentance out but apparnetly these are traits only the left would support. Tell me that is not f-ed up.
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Post by hello fromWarsaw on May 12, 2011 20:29:24 GMT -5
All highly respected, and doing good in the world.- As opposed to Michelle Malkin , and Faux Noise
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Post by hello fromWarsaw on May 12, 2011 20:40:25 GMT -5
Bogus Brazilian Oil Claims | FactCheck.org Q: Did Obama loan $2 billion to Brazil's oil company to benefit China and George Soros? A: The president had nothing to do with the loan, which the factcheck.org/2009/09/bogus-brazilian-oil-claims
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Post by hello fromWarsaw on May 12, 2011 20:48:20 GMT -5
A: The president had nothing to do with the loan, which the Export-Import Bank approved for Brazil to buy U.S.-made equipment and services.
FULL QUESTION
I received this in an e-mail. Is it true?
Today even though President Obama is against off shore drilling for oil for this country. He signed an executive order to loan 2 Billion of our taxpayers dollars to a Brazilian Oil Exploration Company (which is the 8th largest company in the entire world) to drill for oil off the coast of Brazil. The oil that comes from this operation is for the sole purpose and use of China and not the USA. The Chinese government is under contract to purchase all the oil that this oil field will produce, which is hundreds of millions of barrels of oil".
We have absolutely no gain from this transaction whatsoever. ⬐ Click to expand/collapse the full text ⬏
Wait it gets more interesting.
Guess who is the largest individual stockholder of this Brazilian Oil Company and who would benefit most from this? It is American Billionaire, George Soros, Liberal businessman who is a radical left wing supporter, finances MoveOn.org <http://moveon.org/> as well as other liberal programs and was President Obama’s largest and most generous supporter during his campaign. If you are able to connect the dots and follow the money, you are probably as upset as I am. Not a word of this transaction was on any of the other news networks.
FULL ANSWER
This claim stems from a "preliminary committment" made back on April 14 by the board of directors of the Export-Import Bank of the United States. The bank intends to loan up to $2 billion to finance exports to the Brazilian oil company Petróleo Brasileiro S.A., known as Petrobras, over the next several years.
The e-mail is false on two counts.
The message falsely says the decision was due to an "executive order" by the president. No presidential order was required. Furthermore, none of President Obama’s appointees had joined the Ex-Im board at the time of the vote, which was unanimous, and bipartisan. The Ex-Im Bank states: "In fact, at the time the Bank’s Board consisted of three Republicans and two Democrats, all of whom were appointed by George W. Bush." The message falsely claims that "we have absolutely no gain" from the loan. In fact, the loan is being made specifically to finance purchase by Petrobras of U.S.-made oilfield equipment and services. The mission of the Ex-Im Bank is to encourage exports by making such loans. The bank’s chairman and president, Fred P. Hochberg, underscored the purpose of the loan during a trip to Brazil at the end of July:
Ex-Im Bank President Hochberg, July 29: I chose Brazil as my first international destination for good reason: Brazil is a powerhouse among South American economies and offers tremendous opportunities for U.S. exporters in many sectors. I want Brazilians to know that Ex-Im Bank has the will and the capacity to finance their purchases of U.S. equipment, products and services
Obama appointed Hochberg to the Ex-Im Bank on April 20, nearly a week after the board voted to approve the loan. He was confirmed May 14 and sworn in May 21.
The message claims that George Soros would "benefit most" from the loan, but that is also a baseless accusation. Soros is a favorite whipping boy of conservatives because of his early financial help to the liberal group MoveOn.org. And he is indeed a major investor in Petrobras, through his New York-based hedge-fund firm, Soros Fund Management LLC. But the hedge fund recently sold 22 million shares of common stock in the company (which carry voting rights) while buying 5.8 million shares of preferred stock (which is non-voting.) As reported by Bloomberg News, Soros reduced his stake in the company before any of the Ex-Im Bank’s promised loan has been dispensed.
There is some truth to the claim that China would benefit, but not much. Brazil recently agreed to export 200,000 barrels of oil per day to China in coming years. But that was in return for a loan by China of $10 billion, five times more than the U.S. Ex-Im Bank is lending to finance purchase of U.S. gear.
The Ex-Im Bank also would like it known that no loan has yet been made, and that the "preliminary commitment" could eventually result in either a direct loan or a loan guarantee. Either way, the Ex-Im Bank states, "no taxpayer dollars are involved." The bank is self-sustaining.
-Brooks Jackson
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Post by hello fromWarsaw on May 12, 2011 20:57:29 GMT -5
Don't you ever get sick of repeating BS from bought off, un-American liars?
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Post by formerexpat on May 12, 2011 21:31:42 GMT -5
I don't have that problem; I generally stay away from the 30 Soros funded organizations.
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Post by hello fromWarsaw on May 12, 2011 21:54:47 GMT -5
Are you able to read opposing facts, and follow a discussion? And who asked ya? "Strong, and WRONG..."
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Post by Mad Dawg Wiccan on May 12, 2011 21:57:15 GMT -5
Don't you ever get sick of repeating BS from bought off, un-American liars? Soros? Yes, I do.
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Post by hello fromWarsaw on May 12, 2011 22:08:13 GMT -5
So the answer is no... hilarious...
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Post by workpublic on May 13, 2011 17:00:13 GMT -5
www.undueinfluence.com/george_soros.htmA great American patriot. you do know he's hungarian, right? All highly respected(conjecture), and doing good in the world. osama was respected also. probably by a lot of the same people. warsaw , what has he done to improve your life? what have the greedy pubs done to hurt you?
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