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Post by lakhota on Apr 23, 2011 1:57:47 GMT -5
Influential progressives who fight racism... Rachel Maddow, the Nation, Daily Kos: Winners in AlterNet's Poll of Most Influential ProgressivesRachel Maddow, host of the 9pm (EDT) evening news and opinion show on MSNBC, reigns supreme as the most influential progressive. Or, more accurately, the media personality progressives love most. Maddow pulled well ahead of Michael Moore, who just nipped Comedy Central's Jon Stewart for the second spot. (In the first AlterNet poll in December 2009, Bill Moyers was voted most influential, with Moore second and Maddow third.) Keith Olbermann, who recently left MSNBC, ranked fourth, and the veteran newscaster from Democracy Now! Amy Goodman, came in fifth, according to more than 8,000 AlterNet readers and others across the web who voted in our poll. Much More: www.alternet.org/media/150711/rachel_maddow%2C_the_nation%2C_daily_kos%3A_winners_in_alternet%27s_poll_of_most_influential_progressives/
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2011 5:49:17 GMT -5
Lak is bouncing around in here. I'm kinda wondering, Lak, are you just going to make this your thread?? I kinda miss you not starting threads- in a weird kind of way.
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Post by privateinvestor on Apr 23, 2011 7:37:34 GMT -5
The only advice I would give you Lakhota is to keep it clean and don't insult posters. If you can do that you are more than welcome back here. If however, You start to insult people based on their jobs and what they are trying to do in the world (in other words the military) you will probably find yourself banned pretty quick. Welcome back - keep it classy - post away. However don't bet the farm on that..IMHO And boy do I love the look of Sarah in Pink in the AM..enough to make an old man cry in his Starbucks while checking out that lovely avatar..
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2011 7:43:25 GMT -5
The Tapes were only part of the story... the made up, taken out of context, and digitally manipulated parts...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2011 7:49:27 GMT -5
Nothing else matters, does it? Like the fact that they ARE racist. Go after the tapes if you want, but better leave the racist part of it out.
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Post by privateinvestor on Apr 23, 2011 14:01:46 GMT -5
Yeah, it's just a matter of time. Just so everybody knows right up front - so nobody can come back later and say they weren't warned - I'm not having any nonsense in the form of slander or thinly veiled insults on this message board. My plan is to petition the moderators exactly one time, and if the problem isn't fixed then I'll go straight to the folks at proboards and let them handle it however they see fit. That may seem over the top, but keep in mind the last time this poster was here I ended up petitioning mods four times over about two hours without so much as a peep back in reply, when at that point I decided to take matters into my own hands and we all remember how well that worked out lol. Here's the important thing to remember - that was a load of BS, and I guarantee it won't happen again. So, I think we've beat that dead horse enough lol, just wanted everybody to know right up front so mods can be more proactive hopefully the next time an incident happens.
Ratchets have you discussed this issue with Moonbeam?? I did discuss bashing the military with her and she agreed with my point of view on that issue and gave her several explicit examples of why I thought it was way over the top..
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Post by ty on Apr 23, 2011 14:30:56 GMT -5
I would think that anyone runing for any political position would have to show their birth certificate before even being allowed to run for office or president. Shoot, when I applied for a job they asked me for a copy of my birth certificate, ID, and SS number. Shoot I was afraid they were going to ask me to drop my pants to see if i was a male or a female. lol However, I am in favor for the Birther Law. We need to know where people are born before they take any seat in our government. If not, than any illegal person can run for office with a fake SS number and ID, and if i am forced to show my birth certificate for a job, then I would think that the government people running our country should be doing the same. It would be something else if we were to learn that half the people running our country are not naturalized citizens.
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Post by lakhota on Apr 23, 2011 17:41:57 GMT -5
It makes me sad that I have not been treated more warmly by the military folks on my return.
I hope it has nothing to do with racism against a Native American poster...
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Post by lakhota on Apr 23, 2011 18:05:24 GMT -5
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Post by lakhota on Apr 23, 2011 18:15:08 GMT -5
Robert De Niro Smacks Donald TrumpIn an interview at his Tribeca Film Festival, famously taciturn star Robert De Niro took a public swipe at Trump's "crazy" presidential aspirations, likening him to a "car salesman." Lloyd Grove reports. Robert De Niro has no use for presidential wannabe Donald Trump and his constant questioning of the legitimacy of President Obama's claims to American-born citizenship. During an onstage interview with NBC News anchor Brian Williams at the Tribeca Film Festival on Saturday, the Oscar-winning actor compared the real-estate mogul and reality-show star—who has taken up the "birther" cause with a vengeance to promote his possible candidacy—to a car salesman on the hustle. De Niro called Trump "crazy" and accused him of saying "terrible things" without having the facts to back them up. www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2011-04-23/robert-de-niro-smacks-donald-trumps-presidential-aspirations/?cid=hp:mainpromo3
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2011 18:35:35 GMT -5
Republicans are not anti women. They are pro future women, and men.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2011 19:32:00 GMT -5
I've given out many apologies on the board over the years. When we are wrong, best to just say sorry, maybe a and just move on, IMO.
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Post by ed1066 on Apr 23, 2011 19:45:48 GMT -5
You hear that ladies? You're a separate race now. This doesn't help women at all...why do you hate women, Lakhota?
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Post by burnsattornincan on Apr 23, 2011 19:50:34 GMT -5
Robert De Niro has no use for presidential wannabe Donald Trump
Another Hollywood convenient liberal... who cares what they think about anything. Too much easy dough and not enough integrity.
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Post by lakhota on Apr 23, 2011 20:14:26 GMT -5
I assume you mean "tensions"? I have no tensions!
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Post by ed1066 on Apr 23, 2011 20:52:55 GMT -5
Yes, that is what I meant. I didn't spell the word right. Do you have any desire to apologize for what you said about our nations military a few months ago? Good luck Ratchets, but our friend Lakhota has also stated he supports anti-Semitic genocidal lunatic Mahmoud Ahmedinejad, so I don't think the apology you seek is forthcoming...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2011 20:54:38 GMT -5
He warned you, Lak. Can I mediate and ask you to apologize so you 2 can move on? He seems willing... a lot more than one particular person I apologized to that won't accept it... please?? It doesn't go well when we bring the mods in to our personal issues from what I see.
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Post by deziloooooo on Apr 23, 2011 20:55:07 GMT -5
Yeah, it's just a matter of time. Just so everybody knows right up front - so nobody can come back later and say they weren't warned - I'm not having any nonsense in the form of slander or thinly veiled insults on this message board. My plan is to petition the moderators exactly one time, and if the problem isn't fixed then I'll go straight to the folks at proboards and let them handle it however they see fit. That may seem over the top, but keep in mind the last time this poster was here I ended up petitioning mods four times over about two hours without so much as a peep back in reply, when at that point I decided to take matters into my own hands and we all remember how well that worked out lol. Here's the important thing to remember - that was a load of BS, and I guarantee it won't happen again. So, I think we've beat that dead horse enough lol, just wanted everybody to know right up front so mods can be more proactive hopefully the next time an incident happens.Ratchets have you discussed this issue with Moonbeam?? I did discuss bashing the military with her and she agreed with my point of view on that issue and gave her several explicit examples of why I thought it was way over the top.. I really would like to understand what you mean about bashing the military. To joke about them at times, that's bashing? To point out things that are not the greatest, for example , ones who are accused of murder of civilians, we have had a few of those, and granted they were individuals , but part of the military and when cover ups by superiors for political reasons, good press , is that bashing the military? To suggest there is waste in the Military budget and there are weapon system that possible shouldn't be there, is that bashing the military? I can go on but possibly just your explanation of the bashing of might be best, why not clarify. Just remember, I have been there, done that and have great respect of but am also a realist and always put on a pedestal and reliving experiences, not my thing, most of the reliving really sucks for me. A Boy Scout camping trip to be remembered it was not. I really don't remember Lakhotas bashing of the military, and some who send PM's here and complain of supposed bashing of , it just is they have no sense of humor and take their case to seriously but if you could explain the bashing I would be open to understand what you mean, possible he did and I would like to be aware of the occurrences. If one does not want to do it publicly,. fine, just ads to the back and forth, send me a PM, I always keep those as they are meant to be, personal between two individuals.
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Post by lakhota on Apr 23, 2011 21:26:57 GMT -5
Yes, that is what I meant. I didn't spell the word right. Do you have any desire to apologize for what you said about our nations military a few months ago? What did I say about "our nation's military" that was untrue? Please be specific and provide linked quotes from my previous posts (not that you would ever distort my actual posts). If I said anything that was untrue, I will gladly apologize. Did it have anything to do with racism in the military or the Kill Team that murdered innocent divilians in Afghanistan? Anyway, I would prefer to keep this thread about racism. The Kill Team: How U.S. Soldiers in Afghanistan Murdered Innocent Civilianswww.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-kill-team-20110327
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Post by BeenThere...DoneThat... on Apr 23, 2011 21:48:06 GMT -5
<<< Anyway, I would prefer to keep this thread about racism. >>> ...then I, for one, need to see something that is political, racist, and open for debate...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2011 21:51:34 GMT -5
Well... racism... women... republicans... abortion..... You are right, Lak. It IS racist!! Abortions are racist toward unborn minority children, the whole eugenics thing... But that makes liberals the racists, right?
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Post by ameiko on Apr 23, 2011 21:55:24 GMT -5
I guess Hillary Clinton is a racist because it was her camp that came up with the birther issue in the first place. Funny how the MSM never tells you interesting facts like that.
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Post by ty on Apr 23, 2011 22:00:13 GMT -5
I think it's ok man, I haven't discussed this particular issue but I'm sure all the mods are aware of the history. I'm telling you though that I can already tell what's going to happen in the future, and hopefully it will be handled a little bit better this time. An apology by Lakota would go a long way towards easing old tensings. Not a fake apology, but a sincere one.
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Post by lakhota on Apr 23, 2011 22:12:20 GMT -5
Gee, I hope no one will attempt to badger/bully/intimidate me as I quietly mind my own business on this one thread.
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Post by lakhota on Apr 23, 2011 22:34:20 GMT -5
Will this summer be a repeat of last summer...? The GOP's Long, Hot, Racist SummerFirst came a harsh new immigration law and calls of white racism; then we turned up the heat with an “n-word” flap and the ground zero mosque hysteria. Welcome to the summer of hate. These dog days have brought a veritable festival of racial demagoguery, from a phony “ New Black Panther” controversy to Arizona’s draconian illegal-immigrant crackdown to the most recent “ground zero mosque” hysteria. Leave it to GOP darling Sarah Palin to turn up the heat with a bizarre defense of the hateful Dr. Laura’s “n-word” rant. In a rambling Facebook post, the former Alaska governor asked incredulously: “Does anyone seriously believe that Dr. Laura Schlessinger is a racist?” Why, yes, Sarah. Yes, we do. This incident is instructive, because it bears the hallmark of many GOP blunders in the area of race. Palin truly cannot understand why anyone would think that Dr. Laura is racist, or why Palin’s defense of her is disgusting. In Palin’s world, apparently this kind of behavior is acceptable, which tells us quite a bit, actually. In Palin’s world, Dr. Laura is a victim. It’s the same world in which a single incident in a single voting precinct in Philadelphia in 2008 has become a rallying cry among conservatives who see black racism against white people lurking behind every bush. The obsession is focused on two members of the “New Black Panther Party” who stood outside a majority black voting precinct and got into an argument with some white Republican “poll watchers” whom they called “crackers.” One NBP member was holding a billy club. The “New Black Panther Party,” which has no relation to the original, denounced the two men. Conservatives complain that if they had been Ku Klux Klan members, liberals would be screaming. Here is a little history lesson: When the KKK showed up at a polling station in the South, black people would have rejoiced if the worst thing that happened to them was name-calling. The KKK came for one reason: to torture and kill blacks, which they did by the thousands. More: www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2010-08-22/republicans-long-hot-racist-summer/
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Post by deziloooooo on Apr 23, 2011 22:45:13 GMT -5
OK, here's the thing Dezilooo. He or she posted a bunch of links to articles in basically saying how military members are a bunch of bloodthirsty heathens. I don't have the links now, maybe you can ask him or her for them if you are interested. It was an obvious attempt to slam folks, well not folks but me personally, for doing what they do as a profession. Sorry that I can't bring up the exact quotes now, because the thread has been deleted way back months ago. Even the daftest of people would recognize that it was an insult though, I mean it's not rocket science we are talking about here. I wasn't born yesterday Dezilooo, and neither were you, so I think we both know when somebody is making a little joke about people in general for example - "pub dittohead" and when posters are making an insult directed at one person - for example "you are a dumbass." Obviously there is a difference and I think you can see that. The problem I have is that when I petitioned a moderator - four times - once for each post I found offensive - I never heard back even once. A meesage about "we have received your complaint and are looking into it" or a "we have researched your complaint and feel it isn't valid" or not even a "we got your email" came back as a response. So I assumed that the moderators would not do anything, and took it into my own hands and blasted out some curse words. I don't particularly like talking like that, and I wouldn't enjoy being spoken to like that either. But at some point you have to say enough is enough and stick up for yourself and that point for me was after four petitions. I will not have this problem in the future. I will petition one time, if it isn't answered (even with a negative response) then I'll start working my way up the proboards chain. Sorry if that seems extreme, but I I'm not really into being harrassed on a message board and I don't think you should be either. I don't care if we disagree, a lot of posters disagree with a lot of other posters every day. I actually like that because it gives you two different viewpoints to consider. I will not post here though and get slammed on a personal level. I gaurantee that is not going to happen, not more than once anyway. I know the moderators here aren't paid, but that also doesn't excuse them from doing their job. Believe it or not I'm not here take insults. I'm here to post my opinions and read others opinions. If that's not what this board is about then I'll go, that's fine you all have your fun bashing each other. I don't see where that is a productive use of your time, but if that's what the message board is all about then have at it I guess. Ok thanks for the response and I would miss your contributions here Ratch, your a good poster and its not a kiss ass , we agree on some and disagree on a lot , but you post well thought outs and I also like that. Naturally not knowing exactly what was posted I won't comment, but if it was some time back my thoughts are that was when moderators, moon herself , virgil were still getting their feet wet here, how do we/they actually, handle the back and fourths, PM's, complaints. Not wanting to be what the other was, old zone, many banning , time outs, so many it got to be a right of passage to get banned for a day or so, or at least how it seemed , but now if you have a complaint , private to a moderator, or a "report to Mod ", I am sure a response, possible by PM , but a response I am sure you will get, and if you go the moderator route there is always moon if still not satisfied though she seems to follow the "report to mods " to se how handled and out of the blue she is here, and I know one way or the other , you would get a response, they have gotten pretty good on that part. Trust me , if I saw a real, personals I would not stay silent and as I said before, having done and been, some light banter even on the military, I don't sweat but serious attacks on, especially downing , dissing our people in general, I also dont tolerate and I know you have seen me let loose, consequences be damned , on things I felt where really over the top , whether you agreed or not, so thanks for the post, understand, and make sure you hang around, you would definitely be missed.
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Post by deziloooooo on Apr 23, 2011 23:05:47 GMT -5
"The obsession is focused on two members of the “New Black Panther Party” who stood outside a majority black voting " -------------------------------------------------------------------- The problem is , IMHO, that we are so polarized , that any incident by a few, lots of people in this country folks, from either side will be jumped on. Usually by the movers and shakers of the other side and then picked up by the supporters of those movers and shakers , who they are representing, and over dramatized and the whole ideas is to get in their shots . The dissing and the example is these two "Black Panthers " which has been over dramatized as a reflection against Obama as was the over dramatization when the pub supporter had his foot on the demonstrators head when she was demonstrating against the pub speaker, who ever it was, was it Palin? Both examples of the shakers and movers taking a incident and blowing it up beyond the incident itself, demonizing in one case the way Obama supports yadda, yadda, and in the other how the pubs, Palin who ever , deals with anyone who demonstrates against pubs yadda , yadda, and as was shown here, so many here jump on those over done manipulations by the shakers and movers, thus playing into what they want to accomplish. We haven't even entered into the campaigning yet, with no real candidate from one side and just one most likely candidate from the other, and a lot more of this will be coming down the pike and the problem is the same ones will be picking up the manipulation by the movers and shakers of their parties and running with it, purposely or in ignorance like Pavlov's dogs {google if you need a explanation] and my guess is most will be doing it purposely here.
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Post by lakhota on Apr 23, 2011 23:09:42 GMT -5
Does anyone know why the board clock is still behind one hour?
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Post by Tennesseer on Apr 23, 2011 23:11:39 GMT -5
Go to your profile and edit your time zone (daylights savings time).
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Post by Tennesseer on Apr 23, 2011 23:14:53 GMT -5
You have to manually change it to DST.
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