IRS whistle blowers

[ripvanwinkle]

I had a few hours to kill before work this week so I tuned into the testimony of the 2 IRS guys. That was very interesting to hear what went down with the monies paid to the Biden families and how they were told to basically hold off on investigating the Biden family.

Sound like some dirty dealings to me. Can't wait for more hearings on this.

[djAdvocate]

Jul 21, 2023 21:26:12 GMT -5 ripvanwinkle said:

I had a few hours to kill before work this week so I tuned into the testimony of the 2 IRS guys. That was very interesting to hear what went down with the monies paid to the Biden families and how they were told to basically hold off on investigating the Biden family.

Sound like some dirty dealings to me. Can't wait for more hearings on this.

it should be investigated.  because i don't think it is true.
i get that you do.
i get that THEY do.
but that doesn't make it true.

sometimes opinion has a way of shading perspective.
i think that is what is going on, here.

note: i have no love for the IRS, but the argument they are making makes no sense to me, as someone with extensive experience dealing with them.

[Tennesseer]

Jul 21, 2023 21:26:12 GMT -5 ripvanwinkle said:

I had a few hours to kill before work this week so I tuned into the testimony of the 2 IRS guys. That was very interesting to hear what went down with the monies paid to the Biden families and how they were told to basically hold off on investigating the Biden family.

Sound like some dirty dealings to me. Can't wait for more hearings on this.

Are you proud of Marjarie Taylor Greene for posting private nude pictures of Hunter Biden?

[ripvanwinkle]

Jul 21, 2023 21:39:09 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Jul 21, 2023 21:26:12 GMT -5 ripvanwinkle said:

I had a few hours to kill before work this week so I tuned into the testimony of the 2 IRS guys. That was very interesting to hear what went down with the monies paid to the Biden families and how they were told to basically hold off on investigating the Biden family.

Sound like some dirty dealings to me. Can't wait for more hearings on this.

Are you proud of Marjarie Taylor Greene for posting private nude pictures of Hunter Biden?

Don't know anything about it. Were they art photos?

[tallguy]

Couldn't be.  Melania wasn't in them.

[ripvanwinkle]

Jul 21, 2023 22:11:24 GMT -5 tallguy said:

Couldn't be.  Melania wasn't in them.

??. I must be dense. I don't get the reference to Melania.

[Tennesseer]

Jul 21, 2023 21:48:16 GMT -5 ripvanwinkle said:

Jul 21, 2023 21:39:09 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Are you proud of Marjarie Taylor Greene for posting private nude pictures of Hunter Biden?

Don't know anything about it. Were they art photos?

Not going to do your research for you. You are an adult now. Do it yourself.

[tallguy]

Jul 21, 2023 23:31:41 GMT -5 ripvanwinkle said:

Jul 21, 2023 22:11:24 GMT -5 tallguy said:

Couldn't be.  Melania wasn't in them.

??. I must be dense. I don't get the reference to Melania.

Republicans trashed Michelle Obama for wearing a sleeveless dress, but excused Melania's soft-porn and nude photos as "art."  

[ripvanwinkle]

Jul 21, 2023 23:42:56 GMT -5 tallguy said:

Jul 21, 2023 23:31:41 GMT -5 ripvanwinkle said:

??. I must be dense. I don't get the reference to Melania.

Republicans trashed Michelle Obama for wearing a sleeveless dress, but excused Melania's soft-porn and nude photos as "art."  

Ok, I get it. But what does this have to do with the IRS hearings?

[tallguy]

Jul 22, 2023 0:08:31 GMT -5 ripvanwinkle said:

Jul 21, 2023 23:42:56 GMT -5 tallguy said:

Republicans trashed Michelle Obama for wearing a sleeveless dress, but excused Melania's soft-porn and nude photos as "art."  

Ok, I get it. But what does this have to do with the IRS hearings?

MTG presented the pictures during an IRS Oversight Committee hearing.  You tell me what any of it had to do with the hearing.  You were watching.

[pulmonarymd]

RIP doesn’t seem to have the same concerns about the Trumps, who we know are definitely tax cheats. But you know. IOKIYAR

[tbop77]

Jul 21, 2023 21:26:12 GMT -5 ripvanwinkle said:

I had a few hours to kill before work this week so I tuned into the testimony of the 2 IRS guys. That was very interesting to hear what went down with the monies paid to the Biden families and how they were told to basically hold off on investigating the Biden family.

Sound like some dirty dealings to me. Can't wait for more hearings on this.

Wait, I thought whistle blowers couldn't be trusted and:


they’re almost a spy.” Trump then appeared to threaten the whistle-blower and his sources within the government: “You know what we used to do in the old days when we were smart, right? The spies and treason, we used to handle it a little differently than we do now.”


nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/09/trump-suggests-whistle-blower-be-punished-like-a-traitor.html

Which is it?

[ripvanwinkle]

Jul 22, 2023 1:12:51 GMT -5 tallguy said:

Jul 22, 2023 0:08:31 GMT -5 ripvanwinkle said:

Ok, I get it. But what does this have to do with the IRS hearings?

MTG presented the pictures during an IRS Oversight Committee hearing.  You tell me what any of it had to do with the hearing.  You were watching.

I missed that part. Must have been doing something else at the time.

[Tennesseer]

Jul 22, 2023 9:33:58 GMT -5 ripvanwinkle said:

Jul 22, 2023 1:12:51 GMT -5 tallguy said:

MTG presented the pictures during an IRS Oversight Committee hearing.  You tell me what any of it had to do with the hearing.  You were watching.

I missed that part. Must have been doing something else at the time.

Seems you miss a lot of stuff before you post crap.

[happyhoix]

Jul 21, 2023 21:26:12 GMT -5 ripvanwinkle said:

I had a few hours to kill before work this week so I tuned into the testimony of the 2 IRS guys. That was very interesting to hear what went down with the monies paid to the Biden families and how they were told to basically hold off on investigating the Biden family.

Sound like some dirty dealings to me. Can't wait for more hearings on this.

There are often disagreements in what to charge between the investigators, who review the documents and make the interviews, and the attorneys who decide what charges to pursue. 

Take, for instance, the case of the documents that Trump had at Mar a Lago. The evidence was there for additional counts/charges to be made against Trump, but the prosecutor decided to only charge him with some. Possibly he was only picking the charges he felt he had the best proof to prosecute. Or, it could be argued that he was going easy on Trump by only selecting some of the charges, to limit potential jail time. 

See how it’s possible to interpret the prosecutor’s actions in two different ways? 

[happyhoix]

Joe Biden did screw up by allowing his brother and Hunter to promote themselves using the Biden name, which they did, very blatantly. He claims he had nothing to do with their business deals, but he should have confront them both and told them to knock it off.

Is that a criminal offense? I don’t know. An ethical offense? Probably.

Marge Greene seems to be taking offense that Hunter had nude pictures on his lap top, and a baby out of wedlock he didn’t acknowledge, and a drug habit, and used his dad’s name to make money. I don’t really care about any of that, because Hunter isn’t an elected official, responsible to the voters. And I’m not blaming his dad that his son was a screw up - some of the best people on the planet had problematic kids.

I figure if Joe really had a ‘crime family’ as the GOPers claim, and knowing how hard Trump was looking for evidence of wrong doing (remember that he got impeached the first time for pushing the Ukrainian president to find some dirt on Biden) the evidence would have been found, and Biden would have been prosecuted prior to the 2020 election - because that’s what Trump does, he weaponized the DOJ against his enemies (remember what he did to Cohen?) The fact that he never found anything his toady Barr could use to prosecute Biden is proof to me there’s no ‘there’ there.

[djAdvocate]

Jul 21, 2023 23:31:41 GMT -5 ripvanwinkle said:

Jul 21, 2023 22:11:24 GMT -5 tallguy said:

Couldn't be.  Melania wasn't in them.

??. I must be dense. I don't get the reference to Melania.

Melania's soft porn pictures were defended by the right as "art".

[djAdvocate]

Jul 22, 2023 7:10:03 GMT -5 tbop77 said:

Jul 21, 2023 21:26:12 GMT -5 ripvanwinkle said:

I had a few hours to kill before work this week so I tuned into the testimony of the 2 IRS guys. That was very interesting to hear what went down with the monies paid to the Biden families and how they were told to basically hold off on investigating the Biden family.

Sound like some dirty dealings to me. Can't wait for more hearings on this.

Wait, I thought whistle blowers couldn't be trusted and:


they’re almost a spy.” Trump then appeared to threaten the whistle-blower and his sources within the government: “You know what we used to do in the old days when we were smart, right? The spies and treason, we used to handle it a little differently than we do now.”


nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/09/trump-suggests-whistle-blower-be-punished-like-a-traitor.html

Which is it?

right.  the collective IQ of America dropped at least 20 points, thanks to you.

and yet he behaves like he has nothing to do with it.

[djAdvocate]

Jul 22, 2023 12:24:59 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

Joe Biden did screw up by allowing his brother and Hunter to promote themselves using the Biden name, which they did, very blatantly. He claims he had nothing to do with their business deals, but he should have confront them both and told them to knock it off.

Is that a criminal offense? I don’t know. An ethical offense? Probably..

blithely ignoring the bad decisions your ADULT CHILDREN make is not bad parenting, imo.  sometimes it is a survival tactic.  you can drive yourself insane with that shit.  what was Biden to do with Hunter?  take away his allowance?  i mean, how do we know he did NOT tell him to knock it off?

[tbop77]

Obviously, Hunter is the new Hillary.  Wonder why Trump is having his radical MAGA mob cheer "lock him up?"  

[happyhoix]

Jul 23, 2023 7:52:23 GMT -5 tbop77 said:

Obviously, Hunter is the new Hillary.  Wonder why Trump is having his radical MAGA mob cheer "lock him up?"  

yes but Hillary is a politician, and she was running for office. 

Hunter is a private citizen, not running for anything. Who cares what he does. 

[happyhoix]

Hunter Biden’s lawyers filed an ethics complaint against MTG for showing his nude pics during the hearing. Marge also sent out a fund raising video showing footage of the hearing with Hunter’s pics, and if the mass mailing included even one underage kid, that could be a criminal charge.

thehill.com/homenews/house/4110372-hunter-bidens-attorney-files-ethics-complaint-against-marjorie-taylor-greene-for-showing-sexual-images/

Of course, McCarthy gutted the ethics office early on in his reign, so nothing at all will happen to her.

[tbop77]

Jul 23, 2023 8:17:51 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

Jul 23, 2023 7:52:23 GMT -5 tbop77 said:

Obviously, Hunter is the new Hillary.  Wonder why Trump is having his radical MAGA mob cheer "lock him up?"  

yes but Hillary is a politician, and she was running for office. 

Hunter is a private citizen, not running for anything. Who cares what he does. 

The MAGA radical mob cares, they have to have someone to hate.  

[happyhoix]

Jul 22, 2023 14:08:49 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Jul 22, 2023 12:24:59 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

Joe Biden did screw up by allowing his brother and Hunter to promote themselves using the Biden name, which they did, very blatantly. He claims he had nothing to do with their business deals, but he should have confront them both and told them to knock it off.

Is that a criminal offense? I don’t know. An ethical offense? Probably..

blithely ignoring the bad decisions your ADULT CHILDREN make is not bad parenting, imo.  sometimes it is a survival tactic.  you can drive yourself insane with that shit.  what was Biden to do with Hunter?  take away his allowance?  i mean, how do we know he did NOT tell him to knock it off?

True, he might have been telling his brother and Hunter to knock it off, we don’t know. Unless someone can produce documentation that Joe Biden has been directing his son and brother to do it, and I haven’t seen that yet. 

I think it’s funny that the same GOPers pushing the idea that Biden is too old and mentally feeble to run the country and has to have ‘handlers’ tell him what to do also think he is the evil mastermind leading the corrupt Biden crime family. 

[billisonboard]

I can see (kinda) how Hunter Biden could blow and be blown through a $5 million bribe. Maybe even how a Biden brother could squirrel that amount away. But I am struggling to see how Joe Biden hides large amounts of money or actions that benefit people who have bribed him.

[ripvanwinkle]

Jul 23, 2023 10:35:44 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

I can see (kinda) how Hunter Biden could blow and be blown through a $5 million bribe. Maybe even how a Biden brother could squirrel that amount away. But I am struggling to see how Joe Biden hides large amounts of money or actions that benefit people who have bribed him.

I don't know anything about foreign banking but maybe Biden's family through their shell companies set up some hidden bank accounts in a country (Austria, Greece, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, Portugal, and Switzerland (some cantons only) that has secret banking or something like that. It's possible.

[Opti]

I think you need to be a Faux news consumer to think that Biden would be stupid enough to do something like Rip suggests. He's been in politics for a long time. It makes no sense to me.

[billisonboard]

Jul 23, 2023 20:33:26 GMT -5 ripvanwinkle said:

Jul 23, 2023 10:35:44 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

I can see (kinda) how Hunter Biden could blow and be blown through a $5 million bribe. Maybe even how a Biden brother could squirrel that amount away. But I am struggling to see how Joe Biden hides large amounts of money or actions that benefit people who have bribed him.

I don't know anything about foreign banking but maybe Biden's family through their shell companies set up some hidden bank accounts in a country (Austria, Greece, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, Portugal, and Switzerland (some cantons only) that has secret banking or something like that. It's possible.

Okay, let us say they did. They have millions hidden away in secret bank accounts. Now what?

I mean the idea sounds cool but what is the point of having millions if all you can do with it is keep it hidden away in secret accounts? Honestly ripvanwinkle explain it to me.

[pulmonarymd]

Jul 23, 2023 20:33:26 GMT -5 ripvanwinkle said:

Jul 23, 2023 10:35:44 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

I can see (kinda) how Hunter Biden could blow and be blown through a $5 million bribe. Maybe even how a Biden brother could squirrel that amount away. But I am struggling to see how Joe Biden hides large amounts of money or actions that benefit people who have bribed him.

I don't know anything about foreign banking but maybe Biden's family through their shell companies set up some hidden bank accounts in a country (Austria, Greece, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, Portugal, and Switzerland (some cantons only) that has secret banking or something like that. It's possible.

You can’t actually believe that. Seriously, you need to get a clue.

Do you believe that the Trump’s have these kind of accounts and have done illegal things like tax evasion and, money laundering, and the like? Because since he has had to deal with construction unions in NYC, the likelihood that he hasn’t done something illegal is about zero

[tallguy]

Donald Trump commits more crimes every day than Joe Biden has in his entire life.