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Post by scgal on Mar 19, 2023 8:31:25 GMT -5
From what I'm reading it is about acceptance. Am I correct or wrong? We have laws protecting all people from discrimination. If we are just talking about acceptance well too bad no one has to accept someone and here is the kicker on a personal level they have the right to be intolerant, dislike, or even hate them for whatever reason. Just like anyone has the right to dislike, or hate me for being a firearm enthusiast. As long as they are not being discriminated under the law.
Now in my younger years I have been to many pride events. Mainly to party. I drank, and slept with men and women from these events. I still wouldn't have taken my children or take my grandchildren to a pride event. I wouldn't let an adult pretending to be the opposite sex read to my children or grandchildren.
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Post by minnesotapaintlady on Mar 19, 2023 10:04:17 GMT -5
I wouldn't let an adult pretending to be the opposite sex read to my children or grandchildren. How about as a mouse? Is that good in your world? Or does it depend if the person inside that costume has a penis or not?
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Post by djAdvocate on Mar 19, 2023 10:04:32 GMT -5
From what I'm reading it is about acceptance. Am I correct or wrong? We have laws protecting all people from discrimination. that is not true. you have to be a PROTECTED CLASS. gays, in most places, are not a protected class. they can be fired, for example, for being gay, in most places in the US. women? yes black people? yes gays? no
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Post by andi9899 on Mar 19, 2023 10:44:39 GMT -5
You are right, it is a pretty silly thread. No, the mental gymnastics you're doing to try to double down on your extremely flawed logic is just insane.
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Post by Opti on Mar 19, 2023 10:55:59 GMT -5
From what I'm reading it is about acceptance. Am I correct or wrong? We have laws protecting all people from discrimination. that is not true. you have to be a PROTECTED CLASS. gays, in most places, are not a protected class. they can be fired, for example, for being gay, in most places in the US. women? yes black people? yes gays? no And it takes some time to get there. The law prohibits employment discrimination on the basis of race, color, religion, sex and national origin. However, the word “sex” was not added to Title VII until Rep. Howard Smith, a Democrat from Virginia, introduced it in a one-word amendment to the bill in the House of Representatives in February 1964.www.thoughtco.com/women-and-the-civil-rights-act-3529477
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Post by Tennesseer on Apr 3, 2023 11:55:34 GMT -5
Must have been a lot of pearl clutching last night while watching the CMT awards held in Austin Texas. Video at bottom of post. (Co-Host) Kelsea Ballerini dances in protest with drag queens at 2023 CMT awardsKelsea Ballerini made waves Sunday as co-host of the Country Music Television awards, with an emotional tribute to Nashville shooting victims and a performance with drag queens as a protest against Tennessee’s proposed laws. Ballerini, who co-hosted the show with Kane Brown in Austin, Tex., honored the six victims who were slain at the Nashville Covenant School shooting last Monday and recounted her own experience of being in a school shooting in Knoxville, Tennessee. “The community of sorrow over this and the 130 mass shootings in the US this year alone stretches from coast to coast,” the 29-year-old singer said. “I wanted to personally stand up here and share this moment because on Aug. 21, 2008, I watched Ryan McDonald, my 15-year-old classmate at Central High School, lose his life to a gun in our cafeteria.” The singer ended the speech by saying it is time for “real action that moves us forward together to create change for the safety of our kids and our loved ones.” Later in the show, Ballerini performed her most recent single, “If You Go Down (I’m Goin’ Down Too),” accompanied by alumni from “RuPaul’s Drag Race” — an act of protest against a proposed Tennessee law that would criminalize drag revues. Kelsea Ballerini dances in protest with drag queens at 2023 CMT awards
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Post by Tennesseer on Apr 18, 2023 10:26:44 GMT -5
The Deep-Down Truth of Why Evangelical Christians Can’t Stand DragIn late March, the Judicial Committee for the Nebraska Legislature heard public testimony over LB 371, a bill that would criminalize drag shows where minors are present. Opponents vastly outnumbered supporters, with a line extending beyond the committee room and snaking along the hall. The group of supporters was smaller, but their claims were bold. “Queer theory is a nationwide playbook trying to indoctrinate our children!” one supporter exclaimed. Another called Drag Story Hour “sexually manipulative sleaze.” “Stop twerking our kids!” one testifier defiantly yelled to end her speech. Nebraska’s bill is but one example of the dozens of others that are currently circulating across the country, including in Tennessee, where a “drag ban” was scheduled to go into effect on April 1 until a judge tapped the brakes over First Amendment concerns. While on the surface these laws may deal with cabaret licensing and zoning issues, their driving impulse is clear: They represent yet another legal attack on transgender people (whom many of the bills sweep up with drag performers through intentionally vague language about gendered clothing) in a year of record-setting legislation restricting their rights and autonomy. But even with that in mind, compared to the myriad social problems facing America, focusing so much energy on drag seems absurd, at least if you’re on the left. Irreparable harm results when preschoolers see … drag queens wearing princess dresses and reading Hop on Pop at the local library? Really? It all feels like a stretch, even for religious conservatives. So why do these bills garner such emphatic support among those on the Christian right? As sociologists who study conservative Protestants’ discussions of faith, gender, and sexuality, we believe the answer lies not so much in claims about drag performers and trans people (distinct but sometimes overlapping groups) as it does in conservative Protestants’ own sense of themselves. In a 10-year ethnographic study of the religious experiences of LGBTQ and allied conservative Protestants conducted with Theresa Tobin, Dawne Moon has noticed a number of seeming paradoxes: The all-powerful, all-loving creator of the universe is threatened by trans and intersex people’s existence, even though Jesus had no problem with eunuchs. Pastors at a megachurch turned a blind eye to a married straight man hitting on women at church, but confronted a gay man, whom they required to be celibate, because someone had reported seeing him “on a date” (meaning eating at a restaurant with a friend who was a man). And “Lisa,” a 29-year-old lesbian from Texas, told us that growing up, she learned that being gay “was the one thing that you never, ever wanted to be as a Christian. To me, I felt like the church thought it was the worst sin ever. Higher than murder or something.” Lisa and many others we spoke with learned from church that murderers can be forgiven, but being LGBTQ is uniquely unforgivable. Rest of article here: The Deep-Down Truth of Why Evangelical Christians Can’t Stand Drag
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Post by teen persuasion on Apr 18, 2023 22:07:49 GMT -5
The Deep-Down Truth of Why Evangelical Christians Can’t Stand DragIn late March, the Judicial Committee for the Nebraska Legislature heard public testimony over LB 371, a bill that would criminalize drag shows where minors are present. Opponents vastly outnumbered supporters, with a line extending beyond the committee room and snaking along the hall. The group of supporters was smaller, but their claims were bold. “Queer theory is a nationwide playbook trying to indoctrinate our children!” one supporter exclaimed. Another called Drag Story Hour “sexually manipulative sleaze.” “Stop twerking our kids!” one testifier defiantly yelled to end her speech. Nebraska’s bill is but one example of the dozens of others that are currently circulating across the country, including in Tennessee, where a “drag ban” was scheduled to go into effect on April 1 until a judge tapped the brakes over First Amendment concerns. While on the surface these laws may deal with cabaret licensing and zoning issues, their driving impulse is clear: They represent yet another legal attack on transgender people (whom many of the bills sweep up with drag performers through intentionally vague language about gendered clothing) in a year of record-setting legislation restricting their rights and autonomy. But even with that in mind, compared to the myriad social problems facing America, focusing so much energy on drag seems absurd, at least if you’re on the left. Irreparable harm results when preschoolers see … drag queens wearing princess dresses and reading Hop on Pop at the local library? Really? It all feels like a stretch, even for religious conservatives. So why do these bills garner such emphatic support among those on the Christian right? As sociologists who study conservative Protestants’ discussions of faith, gender, and sexuality, we believe the answer lies not so much in claims about drag performers and trans people (distinct but sometimes overlapping groups) as it does in conservative Protestants’ own sense of themselves. In a 10-year ethnographic study of the religious experiences of LGBTQ and allied conservative Protestants conducted with Theresa Tobin, Dawne Moon has noticed a number of seeming paradoxes: The all-powerful, all-loving creator of the universe is threatened by trans and intersex people’s existence, even though Jesus had no problem with eunuchs. Pastors at a megachurch turned a blind eye to a married straight man hitting on women at church, but confronted a gay man, whom they required to be celibate, because someone had reported seeing him “on a date” (meaning eating at a restaurant with a friend who was a man). And “Lisa,” a 29-year-old lesbian from Texas, told us that growing up, she learned that being gay “was the one thing that you never, ever wanted to be as a Christian. To me, I felt like the church thought it was the worst sin ever. Higher than murder or something.” Lisa and many others we spoke with learned from church that murderers can be forgiven, but being LGBTQ is uniquely unforgivable. Rest of article here: The Deep-Down Truth of Why Evangelical Christians Can’t Stand Drag Whoa, that article made my head swim! First I thought I saw where they were going - evangelicals are very literal about God "made" exactly 2 genders, and they have different roles - anything else rocks their world view and must be exterminated. But all that stuff about evangelicals are A-ok with gender-reversal-play as long as it's in private/secret inside a marriage as long as the wife reaffirms her husband is the "real" man, but drag is verboten because it's A) public, and B) NOT sexual - that's the thing they get stuck on?!!? Don't reveal to kids that the gender roles aren't really binary, they might want to experiment (non-sexually) in, *gasp* public! No, no, no - it's always sexual in nature, thus must be done in the secret-married-people's kink closet, and nowhere else. Have I got that straight?
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Post by Tennesseer on Apr 18, 2023 23:06:00 GMT -5
Pretty much!
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Post by Tennesseer on May 1, 2023 10:37:14 GMT -5
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