Nikki Haley for President thread

[Tiny]

trump is in trouble.  Koch is  throwing his considerable money at a GOP candidate who isn't trump. 

The article doesn't say Koch is backing Nikki Haley... but she does have ties to Koch AND she announced she would run for president.  And perhaps the Republican swing voters who wouldn't vote for Hillary  will vote for Nikki (as the lesser or two evils)?  They thought trump was a lesser evil than Hillary.  

(which is weird.... Nikki's not really "white"  and she's a woman - but I guess they would vote for her - just because "she's one of them"?   who knows.) 


www.cnn.com/2023/02/05/politics/koch-network-republican-primary-2024/index.html

The deep-pocketed network associated with billionaire Charles Koch is preparing to throw its money and weight behind a single Republican candidate in the 2024 presidential primary – in a move that could significantly reshape the GOP field.

And then what happens to the "trump like" Governors (in future elections) if being 'trump like' is no longer tolerated?    Is this the old school GOP's  attempt to take back it's party??     

[billisonboard]

I think it is a real stretch to connect the linked article to support for Haley. Here is my read of it:

What the landscape for GOP presidential nomination looks like is you have Trump with a relatively strong plurality of support. If there are enough others splitting up the rest of the primary votes, he could get the nomination without majority support. The most important word in the linked article is 'a". The Koch organization is announcing they will get involved in the primary process and back one particular candidate. Their audience for this announcement is the group of people thinking about running. They are warning, "if you aren't our choice, there will be a considerable amount of money spent for the person we do pick. We advise against you trying to overcome that disadvantage."

[djAdvocate]

i have a hard time believing that the GOP would nominate a woman candidate.

i have no idea what kind of candidate she would make, for the record.

[pulmonarymd]

I do not believe the US is ready for a women president. Too many sexist people out there. I think they will continue to use them as "window dressing." "Look how evolved we are! , but we will not seriously consider them to be viable candidates. Unfortunately, we continue to exclude 1/2 of the population, leaving may talented people out of consideration.

[billisonboard]

Feb 6, 2023 16:03:46 GMT -5 pulmonarymd said:

I do not believe the US is ready for a women president. Too many sexist people out there. I think they will continue to use them as "window dressing." "Look how evolved we are! , but we will not seriously consider them to be viable candidates. Unfortunately, we continue to exclude 1/2 of the population, leaving may talented people out of consideration.

I offer a couple of numbers as a counter argument: 62,984,828 and 65,853,514. That was the popular vote totals for president in 2016. The larger number was a female candidate. Didn't win because of a technicality, but significantly more than window dressing.

[pulmonarymd]

Feb 6, 2023 16:18:03 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Feb 6, 2023 16:03:46 GMT -5 pulmonarymd said:

I do not believe the US is ready for a women president. Too many sexist people out there. I think they will continue to use them as "window dressing." "Look how evolved we are! , but we will not seriously consider them to be viable candidates. Unfortunately, we continue to exclude 1/2 of the population, leaving may talented people out of consideration.

I offer a couple of numbers as a counter argument: 62,984,828 and 65,853,514. That was the popular vote totals for president in 2016. The larger number was a female candidate. Didn't win because of a technicality, but significantly more than window dressing.

Against one of the worst individuals to ever run for(and be elected president). I think we have regressed since then, largely due to the same individual.

If she runs against Trump, which do you think is more likely: Trump treats her respectfully, as a legitimate candidate, or he belittles her and pulls his usual misogynistic nonsense. Before you say he treats everyone disrespectfully, he treats women worse. And his supporters will eat it up, or hold their nose and vote for him, "because he didn't mean it." And they can exhibit their misogyny as well. They are a significant percentage of voters in too many states to discount.

[billisonboard]

Feb 6, 2023 16:27:33 GMT -5 pulmonarymd said:

Feb 6, 2023 16:18:03 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

I offer a couple of numbers as a counter argument: 62,984,828 and 65,853,514. That was the popular vote totals for president in 2016. The larger number was a female candidate. Didn't win because of a technicality, but significantly more than window dressing.

Against one of the worst individuals to ever run for(and be elected president). I think we have regressed since then, largely due to the same individual.

If she runs against Trump, which do you think is more likely: Trump treats her respectfully, as a legitimate candidate, or he belittles her and pulls his usual misogynistic nonsense. Before you say he treats everyone disrespectfully, he treats women worse. And his supporters will eat it up, or hold their nose and vote for him, "because he didn't mean it." And they can exhibit their misogyny as well. They are a significant percentage of voters in too many states to discount.

Your claim was that America is not ready for a female president. A majority of American voters voted for a female to be their president. That to me shows a readiness by America.

[pulmonarymd]

Feb 6, 2023 16:43:35 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Feb 6, 2023 16:27:33 GMT -5 pulmonarymd said:

Against one of the worst individuals to ever run for(and be elected president). I think we have regressed since then, largely due to the same individual.

If she runs against Trump, which do you think is more likely: Trump treats her respectfully, as a legitimate candidate, or he belittles her and pulls his usual misogynistic nonsense. Before you say he treats everyone disrespectfully, he treats women worse. And his supporters will eat it up, or hold their nose and vote for him, "because he didn't mean it." And they can exhibit their misogyny as well. They are a significant percentage of voters in too many states to discount.

Your claim was that America is not ready for a female president. A majority of American voters voted for a female to be their president. That to me shows a readiness by America.

She was not president. So, I do not believe we are ready for a female president. You seem to be claiming that because she won the popular vote we are. Yet, that is not how we elect presidents. A significant numbe rof us are, unfortunately, too many people in too many states are not. I stand by my claim

[billisonboard]

Feb 6, 2023 16:51:52 GMT -5 pulmonarymd said:

Feb 6, 2023 16:43:35 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Your claim was that America is not ready for a female president. A majority of American voters voted for a female to be their president. That to me shows a readiness by America.

She was not president. So, I do not believe we are ready for a female president. You seem to be claiming that because she won the popular vote we are. Yet, that is not how we elect presidents. A significant numbe rof us are, unfortunately, too many people in too many states are not. I stand by my claim

I was just offering evidence that, in my thinking, counters your belief.

[busymom]

It's the GOP that isn't ready for a woman in the Oval Office.  

[billisonboard]

Feb 6, 2023 17:32:08 GMT -5 busymom said:

It's the GOP that isn't ready for a woman in the Oval Office.  

I think Haley is a great test case for this. She has the resume. She is solid in her conservative policy positions. All evidence suggests she is a strong campaigner.

[pulmonarymd]

Until trump unleashes his misogynistic crap on her

[billisonboard]

Feb 6, 2023 18:11:00 GMT -5 pulmonarymd said:

Until trump unleashes his misogynistic crap on her

And if it causes voters to not vote for her, it would support the idea that GOP votere would not support a female. If it doesn't, it would just reflect on Donald Trump.

[happyhoix]

Feb 6, 2023 18:11:00 GMT -5 pulmonarymd said:

Until trump unleashes his misogynistic crap on her

Maybe it’s just crazy optimism on my part but it seems like a good chunk of the electorate, including the GOP part, might be sick to death of Trumps name calling, braggadocio, dirty kind of campaign. I’d be interested to see if he can run her off or if the voters turn on him when he does his usual bs.

[scgal]

I  would vote for her. She was a good governor. I think should could hold her own against Trump. 

[Tennesseer]

Feb 8, 2023 9:11:39 GMT -5 scgal said:

I  would vote for her. She was a good governor. I think should could hold her own against Trump. 

Rip would vote for her just because she's hot. That is such an informed and well researched reason to elect a female president of the U.S..

Feb 7, 2023 21:14:08 GMT -5 ripvanwinkle said:

We need a good looking figurehead. How about Keri Lake or Nikki Haley. They are both 2 beautiful looking woman.

[I Am Caine]

Who?

[djAdvocate]

side note: women is plural for woman.

[ripvanwinkle]

Feb 8, 2023 11:26:30 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Feb 8, 2023 9:11:39 GMT -5 scgal said:

I  would vote for her. She was a good governor. I think should could hold her own against Trump. 

Rip would vote for her just because she's hot. That is such an informed and well researched reason to elect a female president of the U.S..

Feb 7, 2023 21:14:08 GMT -5 ripvanwinkle said:

We need a good looking figurehead. How about Keri Lake or Nikki Haley. They are both 2 beautiful looking woman.

Keri and Nikki are better looking than that old plow horse Hillary.

[Tennesseer]

Feb 8, 2023 21:58:19 GMT -5 ripvanwinkle said:

Feb 8, 2023 11:26:30 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Rip would vote for her just because she's hot. That is such an informed and well researched reason to elect a female president of the U.S..

Keri and Nikki are better looking than that old plow horse Hillary.

Ah yes. Judge female politicians by their looks and not their abilities. You are such a sexist pig. And no better than donald trump.

[teen persuasion]

Feb 8, 2023 21:58:19 GMT -5 ripvanwinkle said:

Feb 8, 2023 11:26:30 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Rip would vote for her just because she's hot. That is such an informed and well researched reason to elect a female president of the U.S..

Keri and Nikki are better looking than that old plow horse Hillary.

But I thought we were discussing who would be excellent Presidential candidates, not Miss America contestants.  

[pulmonarymd]

Feb 8, 2023 21:58:19 GMT -5 ripvanwinkle said:

Feb 8, 2023 11:26:30 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Rip would vote for her just because she's hot. That is such an informed and well researched reason to elect a female president of the U.S..

Keri and Nikki are better looking than that old plow horse Hillary.

And that has what to do with their ability to be president? They are not entering a beauty pageant. But given republicans desire for competency in their representatives, appropriate

[dondub]

Feb 8, 2023 21:58:19 GMT -5 ripvanwinkle said:

Feb 8, 2023 11:26:30 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Rip would vote for her just because she's hot. That is such an informed and well researched reason to elect a female president of the U.S..

Keri and Nikki are better looking than that old plow horse Hillary.

Do you wear water wings in the shallow end of the pool you splash in?

[Tennesseer]

Feb 8, 2023 22:29:49 GMT -5 teen persuasion said:

Feb 8, 2023 21:58:19 GMT -5 ripvanwinkle said:

Keri and Nikki are better looking than that old plow horse Hillary.

But I thought we were discussing who would be excellent Presidential candidates, not Miss America contestants.  

I can hear Keri Lake responding to the beauty pageant judge's question of "How can the USA help third world countries escape hunger and poverty" and Keri Lake screeches "They can vote for me for governor because the 2022 Arizona governor's election was stolen from me! Waawww waaawwwwwww waaaaaaa"

Get the hook.

[Bob Ross]

Feb 6, 2023 15:20:48 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

i have a hard time believing that the GOP would nominate a woman candidate.

i have no idea what kind of candidate she would make, for the record.

Especially not Nimrata Nikki Haley....or even Nimrata Randhawa (her maiden name).

Imagine Trump tweeting that over and over (and over and over and over)...just like Barrack "Hussein" Obama.

She won't stand a chance.

[Tennesseer]

Nikki Haley seems to have forgotten people 75 and older still vote.

Nikki Haley launches GOP campaign by insulting Americans age 75 and over. Great start!

Watch out, mid-to-upper septuagenarians. Newly minted GOP presidential candidate Nikki Haley has questions about your mental acuity!

The South Carolina governor and former U.N. ambassador formally launched her campaign Wednesday with, among other things, a call for “mandatory mental competency tests for politicians over 75 years old.”

That line was surely aimed at pleasing Republicans who’ve convinced themselves that 80-year-old President Joe Biden is senile (while also being a devious criminal and an all-powerful leftist singlehandedly transforming America into a socialist hellscape). But it was also a shot at 76-year-old former President Donald Trump, a candidate as well, and at a sizable swath of the GOP’s most reliable base of voters.

A Pew Research Center study of the 2020 presidential election found voters ages 75 to 92 were the only ones who clearly favored Trump over Biden, by 58% to 42%.

As a liberal, I can see why you might want to check the mental competency of anyone who supported Trump, but from a strategic point of view, launching your Republican campaign with a heavy dose of ageism seems unwise.

Rest of article here:  Nikki Haley launches GOP campaign by insulting Americans age 75 and over. Great start!

[djAdvocate]

i received 2 emails from her campaign so far.  both were appalling.

[tbop77]

In an appearance on the "The Mark Simone Show" podcast this week, Coulter made several xenophobic comments about Haley, the former governor of South Carolina who was born in the U.S. to Indian immigrant parents. "Why don't you go back to your own country?" Coulter said.



Coulter, known for her racist and anti-immigrant stances, attacked India, as well.



"Her candidacy did remind me that I need to immigrate to India so I can demand they start taking down parts of their history," she said. "What's with the worshipping of the cows? They're all starving over there. Did you know they have a rat temple, where they worship rats?"


www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ann-coulter-tells-nikki-haley-to-go-back-to-your-own-country-in-racist-rant-against-new-gop-presidential-candidate/ar-AA17zNIs?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=76b52ab105244e12919a297672f6fcc0

[thyme4change]

If Haley’s stance is to get rid of politicians over 75 years old - I’m in!

[billisonboard]

Feb 26, 2023 1:05:00 GMT -5 thyme4change said:

If Haley’s stance is to get rid of politicians over 75 years old - I’m in!

and I fully support your right to not vote for them.