Please, Sir, Can We Just Count All the Votes?

[Tennesseer]

I'll have to remember this expression for future use: "Donald Trump's merry band of ratfuckers..."

Please, Sir, Can We Just Count All the Votes?

It is simply wild how Donald Trump's merry band of ratfuckers were interested in anything—anything—except counting all the votes in the 2020 election. Seemingly every day there is new evidence for the finding of U.S. District Judge David Carter that Trump's sprawling post-election campaign to throw out the results of that election in order to stay in power was "a coup in search of a legal theory." They began with a conclusion and went spelunking for evidence. This was evident in the texts between two members of Congress—Senator Mike Lee and Congressman Chip Roy—and White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows, in which two men holding offices of the public trust begged the chief manservant to the Executive to provide "ammo" and "a strategy to keep things alive and put several states back in play." That is: we have no evidence of fraud, but we need excuses to keep going.

The trend continued Wednesday with Politico's publication of a new batch of emails from Trumpist legal eagle John Eastman, seen previously drawing up a detailed plan for Vice President Mike Pence to throw out the results of an American presidential election—that is, to throw out the votes of American citizens—and install Trump in power in contravention of the expressed will of the American people. The new emails share a key quality with those aforementioned text messages: the language betrays the intent.

Eastman urged Pennsylvania state Republican legislators to retabulate the votes in that state to make Trump the winner. This would be accomplished by throwing out thousands of absentee ballots on the world-renowned legal basis of We No Likey. Well, to be fair, Eastman declared a bunch of ballots illegal because they arrived in the window created by the state supreme court's decision to extend the mail-ballot deadline. (As long as they were postmarked by Election Day, they could be counted up to three days after. The U.S. Supreme Court upheld this decision.) Eastman concocted an equation using data from past elections to "discount each candidates’ totals by a prorated amount based on the absentee percentage those candidates otherwise received." A prorated amount! Maybe we could just count the votes? Surely not. Just carry the one and solve for autogolpe.

"Having done that math, you’d be left with a significant Trump lead that would bolster the argument for the Legislature adopting a slate of Trump electors," Eastman continued. Ah. And we've arrived at the only aspect of this that really mattered to these folks. (This is the same kind of "math" that Trump asked Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger to perform when he talked about finding 11,780 votes—one more than the margin of his defeat in that state. 2 + 2 = I won.) Eastman added that he believed the Pennsylvania legislature had the power to throw out the Biden electors—the ones based on the full tally of votes cast in the state—and appoint phony Trump electors regardless, but that his fabricated prorated mumbo-jumbo "would help provide some cover."

If there was actually fraud, you wouldn't need "ammo." If the ballots were truly counted illegally, you wouldn't need "cover." What you need cover for is an expressly political maneuver that you know the public will not accept on its own. This was a coup in search of a fig leaf. Never mind that they lost almost every damn court case, at the state and federal level, before judges appointed by Republicans and Democrats. John Eastman knew these American citizens' votes were illegal because too many of them weren't cast for Donald Trump. This was the strategy in all the swing states Trump lost: get enough citizens' votes thrown out to get the "cover" they needed to appoint some sham Trump electors and thereby steal each state's Electoral Votes. There is a recording of Donald Trump attempting this in Georgia. Surely, at some point, this constitutes a crime?

Please, Sir, Can We Just Count All the Votes?

[happyhoix]

If I’m not mistaken’ratfucking’ was a term Nixon’s minions used. Still used by Roger stone, chief ratfucker.

This has veered far away from ‘gee we were sure he won if someone would just count the votes right’ and right into ‘let’s try to reshuffle the deck while the rubes aren’t looking and declare ourselves the winner’ territory, huh.

When is the DOJ moving on this?

[billisonboard]

May 11, 2022 16:29:02 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

I'll have to remember this expression for future use: "Donald Trump's merry band of ratfuckers..."

Please, Sir, Can We Just Count All the Votes?

It is simply wild how Donald Trump's merry band of ratfuckers were interested in anything—anything—except counting all the votes in the 2020 election. Seemingly every day there is new evidence for the finding of U.S. District Judge David Carter that Trump's sprawling post-election campaign to throw out the results of that election in order to stay in power was "a coup in search of a legal theory." They began with a conclusion and went spelunking for evidence. This was evident in the texts between two members of Congress—Senator Mike Lee and Congressman Chip Roy—and White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows, in which two men holding offices of the public trust begged the chief manservant to the Executive to provide "ammo" and "a strategy to keep things alive and put several states back in play." That is: we have no evidence of fraud, but we need excuses to keep going.

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After reading all the texts, I think that the two mentioned above are getting an unfair rap. Below are the full text for for the brief quotes plus further info. 

NOVEMBER 7, 2020

From Chip Roy to Mark Meadows

Good. Be well. If you're still in the game... dude, we need ammo. We need fraud examples. We need it this weekend.

NOVEMBER 19, 2020

From Chip Roy to Mark Meadows

Hey brother - we need substance or people are going to break...

NOVEMBER 7, 2020

From Mike Lee to Mark Meadows

Sydney Powell is saying that she needs to get in to see the president, but she's being kept away from him. Apparently she has a strategy to keep things alive and put several states back in play. Can you help her get in?

NOVEMBER 19, 2020

From Mike Lee to Mark Meadows

Unless Powell can immediately substantiate what she said today, the president should probably disassociate himself and refute any claims that can't be substantiated

READ: Mark Meadows' texts with Mike Lee and Chip Roy

[djAdvocate]

i don't get why these texts are 12 days apart.
surely there must be better continuity than that.

[billisonboard]

May 11, 2022 23:15:46 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

i don't get why these texts are 12 days apart.
surely there must be better continuity than that.

At the link.

[thyme4change]

I think this is the debate that will replace the grassy knoll conspiracy theories. No matter what, we will never agree what really happened.

[djAdvocate]

no.  but unlike the grassy knoll stuff, there are basically ZERO unanswered questions.

if you disagree, please ask.

[dondub]

May 12, 2022 19:58:53 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

no.  but unlike the grassy knoll stuff, there are basically ZERO unanswered questions.

if you disagree, please ask.

It’s quite obvious Oswald was not the lone gunmen. I don’t think he fired a shot myself.

[djAdvocate]

May 12, 2022 22:14:12 GMT -5 dondub said:

May 12, 2022 19:58:53 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

no.  but unlike the grassy knoll stuff, there are basically ZERO unanswered questions.

if you disagree, please ask.

It’s quite obvious Oswald was not the lone gunmen. I don’t think he fired a shot myself.

i concur.  there is simply too much evidence that there was a conspiracy.  the Select committee agrees.  i honestly don't know why we argue about it any more:

www.archives.gov/research/jfk/select-committee-report/part-1c.html

[dondub]

May 12, 2022 23:29:54 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

May 12, 2022 22:14:12 GMT -5 dondub said:

It’s quite obvious Oswald was not the lone gunmen. I don’t think he fired a shot myself.

i concur.  there is simply too much evidence that there was a conspiracy.  the Select committee agrees.  i honestly don't know why we argue about it any more:

www.archives.gov/research/jfk/select-committee-report/part-1c.html

Because...CIA.

[happyhoix]

May 12, 2022 22:14:12 GMT -5 dondub said:

May 12, 2022 19:58:53 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

no.  but unlike the grassy knoll stuff, there are basically ZERO unanswered questions.

if you disagree, please ask.

It’s quite obvious Oswald was not the lone gunmen. I don’t think he fired a shot myself.

Interesting. Was it a mob hit, the Cubans or someone else, do you think?

[dondub]

May 13, 2022 9:58:55 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

May 12, 2022 22:14:12 GMT -5 dondub said:

It’s quite obvious Oswald was not the lone gunmen. I don’t think he fired a shot myself.

Interesting. Was it a mob hit, the Cubans or someone else, do you think?

Yes.

[djAdvocate]

May 13, 2022 11:02:36 GMT -5 dondub said:

May 13, 2022 9:58:55 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

Interesting. Was it a mob hit, the Cubans or someone else, do you think?

Yes.

agree again with don.  there are a lot of groups that wanted him done in.  i think the strongest strain are the anti-Castro Cubans.  those fuckers were crazy.  still are.

[dondub]

May 13, 2022 11:13:26 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

May 13, 2022 11:02:36 GMT -5 dondub said:

Yes.

agree again with don.  there are a lot of groups that wanted him done in.  i think the strongest strain are the anti-Castro Cubans.  those fuckers were crazy.  still are.

There was the infamous punk band the Dead Kennedys. I spoofed that with a fake band called Everybody Killed Kennedy....CIA, mob, Cubans. If it was a lone gunman why do we still have about 1 million pages of info being held by the CIA.

Trump had the chance to release these, and the conspiratologists were very excited. But he reneged but later claimed he had. Yes, a small number of documents were released. There is a new release date sometime. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to add 2+2.

[djAdvocate]

May 13, 2022 11:24:06 GMT -5 dondub said:

May 13, 2022 11:13:26 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

agree again with don.  there are a lot of groups that wanted him done in.  i think the strongest strain are the anti-Castro Cubans.  those fuckers were crazy.  still are.

There was the infamous punk band the Dead Kennedys. I spoofed that with a fake band called Everybody Killed Kennedy....CIA, mob, Cubans. If it was a lone gunman why do we still have about 1 million pages of info being held by the CIA.

Trump had the chance to release these, and the conspiratologists were very excited. But he reneged but later claimed he had. Yes, a small number of documents were released. There is a new release date sometime. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to add 2+2.

some of those fuckers must still be alive.  they would be at least 80YO by now.

[dondub]

Some were released in December, but repetitive and redundant from what I read. 10,000 documents, of innumerable pages, could be released this December. I doubt it as we are only 59! years after the event.

[djAdvocate]

May 13, 2022 11:40:40 GMT -5 dondub said:

Some were released in December, but repetitive and redundant from what I read. 10,000 documents, of innumerable pages, could be released this December. I doubt it as we are only 59! years after the event.

it seems like they are waiting for someone to die, to me.
the postponements are due to the living part.
but i am just guessing.

[dondub]

May 13, 2022 15:10:48 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

May 13, 2022 11:40:40 GMT -5 dondub said:

Some were released in December, but repetitive and redundant from what I read. 10,000 documents, of innumerable pages, could be released this December. I doubt it as we are only 59! years after the event.

it seems like they are waiting for someone to die, to me.
the postponements are due to the living part.
but i am just guessing.

GWH Bush is dead. As is James Jesus Angleton.