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Post by djAdvocate on May 2, 2022 17:58:09 GMT -5
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Post by ripvanwinkle on May 2, 2022 21:05:31 GMT -5
Hmmm...not a bad idea. I wonder if all the 2020 summer of love rioting, looting and burning would have been less if the police could have shot the Antifa and BLM rioters. Send a message to them that this won't be tolerated. Left wing liberals and city officials say it was free speech. My foot. It was just nothing but wanton violence and looting.
In the '70s I was stationed in Okinawa. There were demonstrations against the US outside the US bases and the local police would quell it in a moment with gas and clubs. They knew how to handle the crowd. That is what we should have done. |
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Post by tallguy on May 2, 2022 21:43:50 GMT -5
Hmmm...not a bad idea. I wonder if all the 2020 summer of love rioting, looting and burning would have been less if the police could have shot the Antifa and BLM rioters. Send a message to them that this won't be tolerated. Left wing liberals and city officials say it was free speech. My foot. It was just nothing but wanton violence and looting.
In the '70s I was stationed in Okinawa. There were demonstrations against the US outside the US bases and the local police would quell it in a moment with gas and clubs. They knew how to handle the crowd. That is what we should have done. We would have been infinitely better off if they had shot Trump and his enablers instead.  |
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Post by Tennesseer on May 2, 2022 21:48:14 GMT -5
Hmmm...not a bad idea. I wonder if all the 2020 summer of love rioting, looting and burning would have been less if the police could have shot the Antifa and BLM rioters. Send a message to them that this won't be tolerated. Left wing liberals and city officials say it was free speech. My foot. It was just nothing but wanton violence and looting.
In the '70s I was stationed in Okinawa. There were demonstrations against the US outside the US bases and the local police would quell it in a moment with gas and clubs. They knew how to handle the crowd. That is what we should have done. So you are perfectly okay with Ashli Babbitt being shot and killed as she broke into Congress January 6th, 2021, yes? |
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Post by pulmonarymd on May 2, 2022 21:50:54 GMT -5
Hmmm...not a bad idea. I wonder if all the 2020 summer of love rioting, looting and burning would have been less if the police could have shot the Antifa and BLM rioters. Send a message to them that this won't be tolerated. Left wing liberals and city officials say it was free speech. My foot. It was just nothing but wanton violence and looting.
In the '70s I was stationed in Okinawa. There were demonstrations against the US outside the US bases and the local police would quell it in a moment with gas and clubs. They knew how to handle the crowd. That is what we should have done. Maybe we should have shot all the tea party protesters who were threatening congresspeople. All the protesters who stormed the Capitol. Canada should have shot the truckers. See, both sides can play this game. If you think the BLM protesters deserved to be shot, those deserve to too. You call yourself an American, yet you seem to like the tactics of right wing dictators. You make me dick |
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Post by tallguy on May 2, 2022 21:57:03 GMT -5
Hmmm...not a bad idea. I wonder if all the 2020 summer of love rioting, looting and burning would have been less if the police could have shot the Antifa and BLM rioters. Send a message to them that this won't be tolerated. Left wing liberals and city officials say it was free speech. My foot. It was just nothing but wanton violence and looting.
In the '70s I was stationed in Okinawa. There were demonstrations against the US outside the US bases and the local police would quell it in a moment with gas and clubs. They knew how to handle the crowd. That is what we should have done. Maybe we should have shot all the tea party protesters who were threatening congresspeople. All the protesters who stormed the Capitol. Canada should have shot the truckers. See, both sides can play this game. If you think the BLM protesters deserved to be shot, those deserve to too. You call yourself an American, yet you seem to like the tactics of right wing dictators. You make me dick Every single person who scaled the walls, stormed the doors, or entered that building should have been shot. It was true on that day and it is still true today. Peaceable assembly and protest outside the grounds is acceptable. What happened on January 6 was not that. |
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Post by pulmonarymd on May 2, 2022 22:02:41 GMT -5
Maybe we should have shot all the tea party protesters who were threatening congresspeople. All the protesters who stormed the Capitol. Canada should have shot the truckers. See, both sides can play this game. If you think the BLM protesters deserved to be shot, those deserve to too. You call yourself an American, yet you seem to like the tactics of right wing dictators. You make me dick Every single person who scaled the walls, stormed the doors, or entered that building should have been shot. It was true on that day and it is still true today. Peaceable assembly and protest outside the grounds is acceptable. What happened on January 6 was not that. I think that is a defensible position. Yet conservatives would have been besides themselves if that was done, at the same time they think BLM protesters should have been shot. Wonder what the difference is? They try to claim they aren’t racist at the same time they continue to provide evidence to the contrary |
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Post by happyhoix on May 3, 2022 6:35:39 GMT -5
Maybe we should have shot all the tea party protesters who were threatening congresspeople. All the protesters who stormed the Capitol. Canada should have shot the truckers. See, both sides can play this game. If you think the BLM protesters deserved to be shot, those deserve to too. You call yourself an American, yet you seem to like the tactics of right wing dictators. You make me dick Every single person who scaled the walls, stormed the doors, or entered that building should have been shot. It was true on that day and it is still true today. Peaceable assembly and protest outside the grounds is acceptable. What happened on January 6 was not that. But but but - Trump said all those J6 protesters went into the capital ‘with love.’ Is it possible Trump is lying to me?🤨 |
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Post by tallguy on May 3, 2022 10:35:26 GMT -5
Every single person who scaled the walls, stormed the doors, or entered that building should have been shot. It was true on that day and it is still true today. Peaceable assembly and protest outside the grounds is acceptable. What happened on January 6 was not that. But but but - Trump said all those J6 protesters went into the capital ‘with love.’ Is it possible Trump is lying to me?🤨 Were his lips moving? That's usually a pretty good indication. |
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Post by djAdvocate on May 3, 2022 12:34:09 GMT -5
rip. c'mon, man. that was a very "troll" move.
shoot protestors?
weren't you the guy who was all excited about Musk being a free speech advocate?
recognize any inconsistencies?
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Post by busymom on May 3, 2022 14:08:28 GMT -5
Hmmm...not a bad idea. I wonder if all the 2020 summer of love rioting, looting and burning would have been less if the police could have shot the Antifa and BLM rioters. Send a message to them that this won't be tolerated. Left wing liberals and city officials say it was free speech. My foot. It was just nothing but wanton violence and looting.
In the '70s I was stationed in Okinawa. There were demonstrations against the US outside the US bases and the local police would quell it in a moment with gas and clubs. They knew how to handle the crowd. That is what we should have done. Minneapolis had "people" brought in trying to control the riots, who apparently weren't properly trained on how to shoot rubber bullets, which resulted in a reporter losing an eye. I don't recall any BLM rioter sustaining such a nasty injury. So, even shooting rubber bullets can result in horrible consequences. |
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Post by djAdvocate on May 3, 2022 14:15:13 GMT -5
it is alarming how casually the right can embrace neo-fascism.
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Post by tallguy on May 3, 2022 16:18:34 GMT -5
it is alarming how casually the right can embrace neo-fascism. But not surprising...really. |
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Post by ripvanwinkle on May 3, 2022 20:33:45 GMT -5
Hmmm...not a bad idea. I wonder if all the 2020 summer of love rioting, looting and burning would have been less if the police could have shot the Antifa and BLM rioters. Send a message to them that this won't be tolerated. Left wing liberals and city officials say it was free speech. My foot. It was just nothing but wanton violence and looting.
In the '70s I was stationed in Okinawa. There were demonstrations against the US outside the US bases and the local police would quell it in a moment with gas and clubs. They knew how to handle the crowd. That is what we should have done. So you are perfectly okay with Ashli Babbitt being shot and killed as she broke into Congress January 6th, 2021, yes? Had she stayed outside with protest banners, gave speeches, waved her hands, sang KumBaya and not participated in a illegal mob riot as she broke into Congress, she would have not been shot. When you willingly and knowingly put yourself into a dangerous situation you accept the danger. She knew full well what she was doing was wrong. Period. |
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Post by Tennesseer on May 3, 2022 20:36:08 GMT -5
So you are perfectly okay with Ashli Babbitt being shot and killed as she broke into Congress January 6th, 2021, yes? Had she stayed outside with protest banners, gave speeches, waved her hands, sang KumBaya and not participated in a illegal mob riot as she broke into Congress, she would have not been shot. When you willingly and knowingly put yourself into a dangerous situation you accept the danger. She knew full well what she was doing was wrong. Period. So Trump is wrong in calling her a martyr for his cause? |
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Post by ripvanwinkle on May 3, 2022 20:39:36 GMT -5
Maybe we should have shot all the tea party protesters who were threatening congresspeople. All the protesters who stormed the Capitol. Canada should have shot the truckers. See, both sides can play this game. If you think the BLM protesters deserved to be shot, those deserve to too. You call yourself an American, yet you seem to like the tactics of right wing dictators. You make me dick Every single person who scaled the walls, stormed the doors, or entered that building should have been shot. It was true on that day and it is still true today. Peaceable assembly and protest outside the grounds is acceptable. What happened on January 6 was not that. Well said TG. I concur. I'm all for peaceful demonstrations and free speech but as soon as it becomes a mob violence, severe actions have to be taken. |
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Post by chiver78 on May 3, 2022 20:48:08 GMT -5
Hmmm...not a bad idea. I wonder if all the 2020 summer of love rioting, looting and burning would have been less if the police could have shot the Antifa and BLM rioters. Send a message to them that this won't be tolerated. Left wing liberals and city officials say it was free speech. My foot. It was just nothing but wanton violence and looting.
In the '70s I was stationed in Okinawa. There were demonstrations against the US outside the US bases and the local police would quell it in a moment with gas and clubs. They knew how to handle the crowd. That is what we should have done. Minneapolis had "people" brought in trying to control the riots, who apparently weren't properly trained on how to shoot rubber bullets, which resulted in a reporter losing an eye. I don't recall any BLM rioter sustaining such a nasty injury. So, even shooting rubber bullets can result in horrible consequences. .,using%20a%20less%2Dlethal%20weapon. sorry for the huge link, but I'm on my phone. this young woman was killed by a rubber bullet, after the Red Sox finally vanquished the Yankees in the ALCS in 2004. rubber bullets aren't as safe as touted. |
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Post by tallguy on May 3, 2022 20:57:41 GMT -5
Every single person who scaled the walls, stormed the doors, or entered that building should have been shot. It was true on that day and it is still true today. Peaceable assembly and protest outside the grounds is acceptable. What happened on January 6 was not that. Well said TG. I concur. I'm all for peaceful demonstrations and free speech but as soon as it becomes a mob violence, severe actions have to be taken.  |
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Post by tallguy on May 5, 2022 19:36:55 GMT -5
More from Esper's book:
How much more proof do we need that he is not only the worst person and worst president ever elected, but the dumbest as well?
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Post by happyhoix on May 5, 2022 19:47:47 GMT -5
More from Esper's book: How much more proof do we need that he is not only the worst person and worst president ever elected, but the dumbest as well? ‘No one would know it was us?’ Yeah those Patriot missiles are just laying around loose, anyone can get their hands on them. Idiot |
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Post by tallguy on May 5, 2022 19:56:09 GMT -5
More from Esper's book: How much more proof do we need that he is not only the worst person and worst president ever elected, but the dumbest as well? ‘No one would know it was us?’ Yeah those Patriot missiles are just laying around loose, anyone can get their hands on them. Idiot And completely stealthy too. No one could even see them much less track them. They would suddenly appear, blow up, and leave no trace. |
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Post by djAdvocate on May 5, 2022 20:35:05 GMT -5
that man should never have gotten within 100 miles of the WH.
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Post by happyhoix on May 6, 2022 8:47:44 GMT -5
It’s killing me how all these former aides are stepping forward with all this information now that it’s time to sell their books.
We needed to know this in real time. We were apparently damn lucky Trump didn’t do half the shit he thought was a great idea.
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Post by Mardi Gras Audrey on May 7, 2022 10:39:25 GMT -5
It’s killing me how all these former aides are stepping forward with all this information now that it’s time to sell their books. We needed to know this in real time. We were apparently damn lucky Trump didn’t do half the shit he thought was a great idea. It would have helped to know the info earlier but would it have truly swayed any of the trump supporters? Look at the reaction when Woodward released the recordings of trump intentionally downplaying covid? Most of his supporters didn’t care, didn’t matter to them that he intentionally downplayed something that killed hundreds of thousands of their countrymen. These aides may have been trying to run interference as much as they could so they had to look like they agreed with him while stopping stuff behind the scenes. If u know that crazy is just going to fire you and replace you with a yes man who will go along so to the crazy (even if it is unsafe or illegal), you may just publically look supportive while stopping stuff. I don’t know much about Esper but he seems like an okay guy. It sounds like he was working on stopping trump from using the DOD to do crazy stuff while appearing supportive in public. It probably would have been easier for him personally to walk away and refuse to deal with it but then he gets replaced by some yes man who totally messes the military up |
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Post by djAdvocate on May 7, 2022 13:09:24 GMT -5
there must be something vastly more important about Trump than the fact that he is, essentially, an evil man. something redeeming to his minions.
for the life of me, i can't figure out what it is.
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Post by tbop77 on May 8, 2022 6:56:48 GMT -5
there must be something vastly more important about Trump than the fact that he is, essentially, an evil man. something redeeming to his minions. for the life of me, i can't figure out what it is. The MAGA crowd adores the loudmouth New Yorkers who owns the libs. That is it! |
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Post by happyhoix on May 8, 2022 9:55:01 GMT -5
there must be something vastly more important about Trump than the fact that he is, essentially, an evil man. something redeeming to his minions. for the life of me, i can't figure out what it is. The MAGA crowd adores the loudmouth New Yorkers who owns the libs. That is it! I think (based on what my SIL says) that the MAGA group hates the way our country has been gradually moving towards normalizing gay and trans people, and how non whites and women have been finding high positions in government and businesses, and they want politicians who will prevent any new legislation to go forward. They literally want nothing to get passed - I think this is why they don’t care Trump and the GOP didn’t even bother having a platform in 2020, or in 2024. The platform should only be dismantling government and pushing back progressive laws. Trump is their great disruptor, and chaos is better than allowing any progressive legislation to go forward. |
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Post by djAdvocate on May 8, 2022 12:16:17 GMT -5
good replies.
i like the last one, but i would change "non whites" to "non white heterosexual males". just a small fix.
i would note that there are many white heterosexual females that benefit from this "system" and are therefore along with the ride. they are a key demographic that the rest of you have got to convert in the coming years.
good luck with that.
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