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Post by Opti on Apr 24, 2022 15:05:34 GMT -5
To be fair, I do see that kadee79 did add Abbott to the thread topic. But it was the usual federal inspection that caught the drugs. So ... ?
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Post by pulmonarymd on Apr 24, 2022 15:15:21 GMT -5
Getting kind of testy huh? I bet those 1900 workers wished they didn't have to look for work elsewhere. I think corporate tax should be the same as personal tax. As far as inflation i'm not an economist I just know I have always prospered more under an republican administration. Big oil trying to make all the profit they can, well that is the boards fiduciary responsibility. Instead of Biden pleading to increase production how about he makes it easier to produce. Interesting considering that the country for a long time now has done better economically under Democratic administrations Facts don’t matter. It’s all about feelings. Anyone who pays attention to the news knows this fact
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Post by billisonboard on Apr 24, 2022 16:22:19 GMT -5
To be fair, I do see that kadee79 did add Abbott to the thread topic. But it was the usual federal inspection that caught the drugs. So ... ?it was legitimate for Value Buy to mention Abbott and inspections on this thread. It is then up to others to analyze the substance of what he posted. I did that and tossed the ball back into his court to continue a discussion.
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Post by countrygirl2 on Apr 24, 2022 19:40:46 GMT -5
Getting kind of testy huh? I bet those 1900 workers wished they didn't have to look for work elsewhere. I think corporate tax should be the same as personal tax. As far as inflation i'm not an economist I just know I have always prospered more under an republican administration. Big oil trying to make all the profit they can, well that is the boards fiduciary responsibility.
Do you realize ALL construction jobs are temporary, those guys are always looking for their next job. Repubs act like these will be good jobs from now on. Pipeliners work all over the US.
Both dad and hubs were in construction, the name of the animal, work yourself out of a job. The repubs have given you so much misinformation about this stuff. Read and learn, Canada just wanted the pipeline to get their tar sands oil to the coast to export.
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Post by scgal on Apr 24, 2022 19:42:43 GMT -5
When I say I prospered more, its more than stock market. I had better job opportunities, better pay raises People probably won't believe me even cheaper health ins. My health ins almost doubled when Obama was in office and actually went down 5% when Trump was in office. As I said its my perspective although several of my family members agreed too.
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Post by countrygirl2 on Apr 24, 2022 19:43:00 GMT -5
We have pretty much prospered under both but a more under dem.
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Post by scgal on Apr 24, 2022 19:56:10 GMT -5
Interesting considering that the country for a long time now has done better economically under Democratic administrations Facts don’t matter. It’s all about feelings. Anyone who pays attention to the news knows this fact That is what I say about Dems always worrying about people's feelings. As if someone is offended actually makes them right.
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Post by scgal on Apr 24, 2022 19:58:18 GMT -5
Getting kind of testy huh? I bet those 1900 workers wished they didn't have to look for work elsewhere. I think corporate tax should be the same as personal tax. As far as inflation i'm not an economist I just know I have always prospered more under an republican administration. Big oil trying to make all the profit they can, well that is the boards fiduciary responsibility.
Do you realize ALL construction jobs are temporary, those guys are always looking for their next job. Repubs act like these will be good jobs from now on. Pipeliners work all over the US. Both dad and hubs were in construction, the name of the animal, work yourself out of a job. The repubs have given you so much misinformation about this stuff. Read and learn, Canada just wanted the pipeline to get their tar sands oil to the coast to export. I get that but why shut it down
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Post by pulmonarymd on Apr 24, 2022 20:01:26 GMT -5
Facts don’t matter. It’s all about feelings. Anyone who pays attention to the news knows this fact That is what I say about Dems always worrying about people's feelings. As if someone is offended actually makes them right. Yet you think that republicans are better for the economy despite multiple citations of facts that refute that point. It is all about how you feel about it. Right now, republicans are the snowflakes, they are offended by anything that makes them feel bad
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Post by billisonboard on Apr 24, 2022 20:03:06 GMT -5
When I say I prospered more, its more than stock market. I had better job opportunities, better pay raises People probably won't believe me even cheaper health ins. My health ins almost doubled when Obama was in office and actually went down 5% when Trump was in office. As I said its my perspective although several of my family members agreed too. Ever since he was a presidential candidate, President Donald Trump has been promising the American people a “terrific,” “phenomenal” and “fantastic” new health care plan to replace the Affordable Care Act.
But, in the three and a half years since he set up shop in the Oval Office, he has yet to deliver.
In his early days on the campaign trail, circa 2015, he said on CNN he would repeal Obamacare and replace it with “something terrific,” and on Sean Hannity’s radio show he said the replacement would be “something great.” Fast-forward to 2020. Trump has promised an Obamacare replacement plan five times so far this year. And the plan is always said to be just a few weeks away.
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Post by scgal on Apr 24, 2022 20:06:47 GMT -5
When I say I prospered more, its more than stock market. I had better job opportunities, better pay raises People probably won't believe me even cheaper health ins. My health ins almost doubled when Obama was in office and actually went down 5% when Trump was in office. As I said its my perspective although several of my family members agreed too. Ever since he was a presidential candidate, President Donald Trump has been promising the American people a “terrific,” “phenomenal” and “fantastic” new health care plan to replace the Affordable Care Act.
But, in the three and a half years since he set up shop in the Oval Office, he has yet to deliver.
In his early days on the campaign trail, circa 2015, he said on CNN he would repeal Obamacare and replace it with “something terrific,” and on Sean Hannity’s radio show he said the replacement would be “something great.” Fast-forward to 2020. Trump has promised an Obamacare replacement plan five times so far this year. And the plan is always said to be just a few weeks away.
link OK and your point is.
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Post by scgal on Apr 24, 2022 20:08:37 GMT -5
That is what I say about Dems always worrying about people's feelings. As if someone is offended actually makes them right. Yet you think that republicans are better for the economy despite multiple citations of facts that refute that point. It is all about how you feel about it. Right now, republicans are the snowflakes, they are offended by anything that makes them feel bad I would agree with you on the fact part, but mine is just not feelings I have had higher med ins, lower pay raises under dems. That is fact to me because it affected my life.
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Post by billisonboard on Apr 24, 2022 20:11:18 GMT -5
Ever since he was a presidential candidate, President Donald Trump has been promising the American people a “terrific,” “phenomenal” and “fantastic” new health care plan to replace the Affordable Care Act.
But, in the three and a half years since he set up shop in the Oval Office, he has yet to deliver.
In his early days on the campaign trail, circa 2015, he said on CNN he would repeal Obamacare and replace it with “something terrific,” and on Sean Hannity’s radio show he said the replacement would be “something great.” Fast-forward to 2020. Trump has promised an Obamacare replacement plan five times so far this year. And the plan is always said to be just a few weeks away.
link OK and your point is. You benefited from the Obama era insurance plan during the time that Trump was just indulging. ing
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Post by Opti on Apr 24, 2022 20:22:29 GMT -5
Debt collectors often do better under Republican Presidents.
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Post by tallguy on Apr 24, 2022 20:37:48 GMT -5
That is what I say about Dems always worrying about people's feelings. As if someone is offended actually makes them right. Yet you think that republicans are better for the economy despite multiple citations of facts that refute that point. It is all about how you feel about it. Right now, republicans are the snowflakes, they are offended by anything that makes them feel badI would phrase that differently. They are angered by anything that does not treat as "less than" those who they consider to be "less than." There are very few Republicans left who actually believe in such things as equal rights for all, or that individual liberties belong to those who believe differently just as much as those who believe as they do themselves.
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Post by tallguy on Apr 24, 2022 20:44:11 GMT -5
Facts don’t matter. It’s all about feelings. Anyone who pays attention to the news knows this fact That is what I say about Dems always worrying about people's feelings. As if someone is offended actually makes them right. It depends to a great extent on what the offense is about. If it is because they are being denied their rights, or that their liberties are being infringed, then that should absolutely be remedied. Liberals will always line up on the side of those who are being oppressed, knowing full well that only by guaranteeing everybody else's rights can we ensure our own. It is not Democrats who try to deny equal rights, and it is not Democrats who infringe liberties.
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Post by countrygirl2 on Apr 24, 2022 20:46:52 GMT -5
So scgal what industry are you in?
Pay raises have not kept pace since unions were killed.
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Post by pulmonarymd on Apr 24, 2022 21:23:44 GMT -5
Yet you think that republicans are better for the economy despite multiple citations of facts that refute that point. It is all about how you feel about it. Right now, republicans are the snowflakes, they are offended by anything that makes them feel bad I would agree with you on the fact part, but mine is just not feelings I have had higher med ins, lower pay raises under dems. That is fact to me because it affected my life. But that is not what you initially claimed. You said republicans are better for the economy which was categorically not true. You are now backtracking, and have provided no facts as to why you believe the president had anything to do with the reasons you did better. Either you believe presidents have the ability to improve the economy, which means democrats do better, or they do not have any effects, which your doing better had no relation to a presidents policies.
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Post by scgal on Apr 25, 2022 6:18:05 GMT -5
So scgal what industry are you in? Pay raises have not kept pace since unions were killed. current moment auto industry
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Post by scgal on Apr 25, 2022 6:31:42 GMT -5
I would agree with you on the fact part, but mine is just not feelings I have had higher med ins, lower pay raises under dems. That is fact to me because it affected my life. But that is not what you initially claimed. You said republicans are better for the economy which was categorically not true. You are now backtracking, and have provided no facts as to why you believe the president had anything to do with the reasons you did better. Either you believe presidents have the ability to improve the economy, which means democrats do better, or they do not have any effects, which your doing better had no relation to a presidents policies. Then I followed it up it was in my personal experience that I believe this. No backtracking. What it all comes down to is you believe as most other here the facts, charts, graphs etc. Hell I will agree with you on it you cannot deny it. I also cannot deny my own personal experience as well as many others that believe the same way.
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Post by scgal on Apr 25, 2022 6:37:43 GMT -5
So scgal what industry are you in? Pay raises have not kept pace since unions were killed. current moment auto industry At one time unions served a purpose. I don't believe this now. They do way more harm than good.
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Post by djAdvocate on Apr 25, 2022 7:04:13 GMT -5
When I say I prospered more, its more than stock market. I had better job opportunities, better pay raises People probably won't believe me even cheaper health ins. My health ins almost doubled when Obama was in office and actually went down 5% when Trump was in office. As I said its my perspective although several of my family members agreed too. your personal situation differs greatly with the facts: ymam.proboards.com/thread/66020/economies-gop-dem-presidents
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Post by scgal on Apr 25, 2022 7:27:49 GMT -5
When I say I prospered more, its more than stock market. I had better job opportunities, better pay raises People probably won't believe me even cheaper health ins. My health ins almost doubled when Obama was in office and actually went down 5% when Trump was in office. As I said its my perspective although several of my family members agreed too. your personal situation differs greatly with the facts: ymam.proboards.com/thread/66020/economies-gop-dem-presidentsI agree, I'm also not alone. I think I said in one of these discussions that I made money under both administrations but personally I have overall done better under a republican. I am amazed I made one statement about my personal experience and I get several posters to tell me I'm wrong showing charts and data when I keep stating it was only on my personal experience. Charts and graphs shows a snapshot of a certain set of parameters. They definitely don't include everyone. As far as politics I think both sides are becoming assholes. Who can rile up their base more. It shows just in the postings on this board, and I mean both sides.
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Post by Value Buy on Apr 25, 2022 7:39:28 GMT -5
We have pretty much prospered under both but a more under dem. You fail to mention your husband worked out of country for years because things were bad here for his industry.
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Post by Value Buy on Apr 25, 2022 7:41:19 GMT -5
I agree, I'm also not alone. I think I said in one of these discussions that I made money under both administrations but personally I have overall done better under a republican. I am amazed I made one statement about my personal experience and I get several posters to tell me I'm wrong showing charts and data when I keep stating it was only on my personal experience. Charts and graphs shows a snapshot of a certain set of parameters. They definitely don't include everyone. As far as politics I think both sides are becoming assholes. Who can rile up their base more. It shows just in the postings on this board, and I mean both sides. As far as posters responding, get used to it. Republicans and conservatives are targets 24/7 here, and fail to open their eyes to the failings of their party leaders.
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Post by Value Buy on Apr 25, 2022 7:55:20 GMT -5
Interesting. I read how targeted inspections resulted in a drug seizure, i.e. success. Compared to: Texas Gov. Greg Abbott's order imposing safety inspections on trucks crossing the border from Mexico inflicted billions of dollars in U.S. trade losses — ... ... The inspections by the state's Department of Public Safety resulted in "zero apprehensions" but vastly increased wait times at the border, Texas Public Radio reports. link I see further down the thread you were waiting for me to respond. First, thank you for saying Kadee opened the door. 2. I posted the link and said straight up this was not Abott's doing so smoe posters just refuse to read my comments before going off the deep end. 3. Not said, was I can lead the horses to water but cannot stop them from drinking the water from their contaminated sources. yes, a reference to posters and their own kool aid they consume. 4. Eventually Texas will find the mother lode of either drugs or 78 illegals in the trailer, or maybe both in the same truck, or it forces the cartels to move onto checkpoints in Arizona or California.
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Post by Opti on Apr 25, 2022 8:22:24 GMT -5
Interesting. I read how targeted inspections resulted in a drug seizure, i.e. success. Compared to: Texas Gov. Greg Abbott's order imposing safety inspections on trucks crossing the border from Mexico inflicted billions of dollars in U.S. trade losses — ... ... The inspections by the state's Department of Public Safety resulted in "zero apprehensions" but vastly increased wait times at the border, Texas Public Radio reports. link I see further down the thread you were waiting for me to respond. First, thank you for saying Kadee opened the door. 2. I posted the link and said straight up this was not Abott's doing so smoe posters just refuse to read my comments before going off the deep end. 3. Not said, was I can lead the horses to water but cannot stop them from drinking the water from their contaminated sources. yes, a reference to posters and their own kool aid they consume. 4. Eventually Texas will find the mother lode of either drugs or 78 illegals in the trailer, or maybe both in the same truck, or it forces the cartels to move onto checkpoints in Arizona or California. 2) Yes you did say it was not Abbott's doing but given your number 4 seem to forget the feds do spot drugs regularly in their inspections. 4) The Texas inspections have stopped BTW. www.chron.com/news/local/politics/article/What-did-Greg-Abbott-s-border-inspections-turn-17119794.php?msclkid=890d1babc49911eca6dc80268da3e308Over eight days, starting April 8, troopers conducted more than 4,100 inspections of trucks. Troopers didn’t find any contraband but took 850 trucks off the road for various violations related to their equipment. Other truckers were given warnings, and at least 345 were cited for things such as underinflated tires, broken turn signals and oil leaks.
DPS Director Steve McCraw said at a Friday news conference with Abbott that the reason troopers hadn’t found any drugs or migrants in commercial trucks is because drug cartels “don’t like troopers stopping them, certainly north of the border, and they certainly don’t like 100% inspections of commercial vehicles on the bridges. And once that started, we’ve seen a decreased amount of trafficking across bridges — common sense.”
But Adam Isacson, director for defense oversight at the Washington Office on Latin America, an advocacy group for human rights in the Americas, said it’s not likely cartels stopped the smuggling of drugs because of the state’s inspections. He said many illegal drugs smuggled into the United States are hidden in small compartments or spare tires of people’s vehicles going through international bridges for tourists. He said if smugglers were trying to hide illegal drugs in a commercial truck, it’s most likely federal immigration officials found them before the trucks were directed to the DPS secondary inspections.
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Post by Ryan on Apr 25, 2022 11:09:26 GMT -5
If the demand is there for a given product, then it doesn't matter if the company sells the product for cheaper, some middle man will scoop it up and then resell it for the price that people are willing to pay.
I have an e-comm store and have been selling online for almost 20 years. I didn't have anywhere near an essential product, but during the pandemic I had sales that I never saw before, but the problem is my product was delayed coming from overseas. I raised prices pretty drastically so the demand would kind of level out, otherwise I'd sell out immediately and have to twiddle my thumbs for several months.
I'm sure that's not the case across the board, but you just see it happening like crazy from everyone, not just large corps.
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Yet you think that republicans are better for the economy despite multiple citations of facts that refute that point. It is all about how you feel about it. Right now, republicans are the snowflakes, they are offended by anything that makes them feel bad I would agree with you on the fact part, but mine is just not feelings I have had higher med ins, lower pay raises under dems. That is fact to me because it affected my life. See, I hold congress (Both D and R's) and mainly Citizens United allowing bribing Politicians with more money and influence from Corporations than individual citizens can ever hope to counter with keeping Medical care and Drug costs the highest in the world. If we could just lower our cost of Medical Care, maybe we might start seeing affordable health care. We pay more, but we don't get better care. That is a myth. (ETA: Employers view your Salary as Salary+Benes so if the cost of your health care increases faster than the rate of inflation, it will eat up most of your raise. You can't disassociate the cost of our medical care from how much we earn. They are related. Congress needs to take steps to reduce the cost of medical care in the US. It costs more here than anywhere else in the world, but we don't have better health.
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Post by djAdvocate on Apr 25, 2022 16:53:06 GMT -5
I agree, I'm also not alone. I think I said in one of these discussions that I made money under both administrations but personally I have overall done better under a republican. I am amazed I made one statement about my personal experience and I get several posters to tell me I'm wrong showing charts and data when I keep stating it was only on my personal experience. i never said you were wrong. what i said is that you are out of step with the vast majority. morticians did great during the covid19 crisis. that doesn't mean that it was super great for the 1M that died.
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