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Post by Tennesseer on Apr 1, 2022 10:09:15 GMT -5
Horrible and very long-term painful way to be injured.
Someone was let in/broke into my great aunt's home to rob her. He beat her to the ground by clubbing her over her back with her dining room chairs. He then set her bedclothes she was wearing on fire while she lay on her wood floor. The wood beneath her caught fire and she slowly roasted.
A neighbor saw the fire glow through a window and called 911. My great aunt died but eight hours later. Sadly, it triggered a copy-cat attack and murder about six months later of another elderly woman. Different killer.
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Post by Opti on Apr 1, 2022 11:14:14 GMT -5
Horrible and very long-term painful way to be injured. Someone was let in/broke into my great aunt's home to rob her. He beat her to the ground by clubbing her over her back with her dining room chairs. He then set her bedclothes she was wearing on fire while she lay on her wood floor. The wood beneath her caught fire and she slowly roasted. A neighbor saw the fire glow through a window and called 911. My great aunt died but eight hours later. Sadly, it triggered a copy-cat attack and murder about six months later of another elderly woman. Different killer. Horrible to read about your great aunt.
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Post by djAdvocate on Apr 1, 2022 14:23:06 GMT -5
Horrible and very long-term painful way to be injured. Someone was let in/broke into my great aunt's home to rob her. He beat her to the ground by clubbing her over her back with her dining room chairs. He then set her bedclothes she was wearing on fire while she lay on her wood floor. The wood beneath her caught fire and she slowly roasted. A neighbor saw the fire glow through a window and called 911. My great aunt died but eight hours later. Sadly, it triggered a copy-cat attack and murder about six months later of another elderly woman. Different killer. dear fucking God, bro. that is a trauma for your entire family. i am so incredibly sorry about this. how long ago?
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Post by Tiny on Apr 1, 2022 15:03:43 GMT -5
Horrible and very long-term painful way to be injured. Someone was let in/broke into my great aunt's home to rob her. He beat her to the ground by clubbing her over her back with her dining room chairs. He then set her bedclothes she was wearing on fire while she lay on her wood floor. The wood beneath her caught fire and she slowly roasted. A neighbor saw the fire glow through a window and called 911. My great aunt died but eight hours later. Sadly, it triggered a copy-cat attack and murder about six months later of another elderly woman. Different killer. I'm so sorry. That is trauma to every one involved, not only your family.
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Post by Tennesseer on Apr 1, 2022 16:55:07 GMT -5
Horrible and very long-term painful way to be injured. Someone was let in/broke into my great aunt's home to rob her. He beat her to the ground by clubbing her over her back with her dining room chairs. He then set her bedclothes she was wearing on fire while she lay on her wood floor. The wood beneath her caught fire and she slowly roasted. A neighbor saw the fire glow through a window and called 911. My great aunt died but eight hours later. Sadly, it triggered a copy-cat attack and murder about six months later of another elderly woman. Different killer. dear fucking God, bro. that is a trauma for your entire family. i am so incredibly sorry about this. how long ago? Thanks. Happened about fifty years ago. When there was no internet or TV after midnight, I was at a friend's home after the bars closed for the night and heard it on the radio. Her son was a city cop where it happened too.
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Post by Tennesseer on Apr 1, 2022 16:55:42 GMT -5
Horrible and very long-term painful way to be injured. Someone was let in/broke into my great aunt's home to rob her. He beat her to the ground by clubbing her over her back with her dining room chairs. He then set her bedclothes she was wearing on fire while she lay on her wood floor. The wood beneath her caught fire and she slowly roasted. A neighbor saw the fire glow through a window and called 911. My great aunt died but eight hours later. Sadly, it triggered a copy-cat attack and murder about six months later of another elderly woman. Different killer. I'm so sorry. That is trauma to every one involved, not only your family. Thank you, Tiny.
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Post by djAdvocate on Apr 1, 2022 17:03:09 GMT -5
dear fucking God, bro. that is a trauma for your entire family. i am so incredibly sorry about this. how long ago? Thanks. Happened about fifty years ago. When there was no internet or TV after midnight, I was at a friend's home after the bars closed for the night and heard it on the radio. Her son was a city cop where it happened too. jesus. wow. how big of a town? sorry to ask these questions, but this is uniquely awful. EDIT: don't reveal the town name, to retain privacy. i am just curious as to whether it was a small or big town.
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Post by Tennesseer on Apr 1, 2022 17:52:11 GMT -5
Thanks. Happened about fifty years ago. When there was no internet or TV after midnight, I was at a friend's home after the bars closed for the night and heard it on the radio. Her son was a city cop where it happened too. jesus. wow. how big of a town? sorry to ask these questions, but this is uniquely awful. EDIT: don't reveal the town name, to retain privacy. i am just curious as to whether it was a small or big town. I have posted often I ws born and raise in Springfild, MA. It happened there. The city's population has always hovered around 150,000.
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Post by busymom on Apr 1, 2022 18:32:23 GMT -5
Lord have mercy, Tennesseer! That poor woman, and I can't even imagine how painful that was for your family. Even though it was many years back, you have my sincere sympathy.
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Post by busymom on Apr 1, 2022 18:34:34 GMT -5
Getting back to burn injuries, those are among the most painful for those who survive. I have a relative who was burned when a vehicle he was working on caught fire. We are thankful he survived, but those really deep burns don't ever really heal. I don't know how those folks manage the pain.
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Post by djAdvocate on Apr 1, 2022 18:35:27 GMT -5
decent sized town. esp for back then. terrible.
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Post by Tennesseer on Apr 1, 2022 19:19:11 GMT -5
Lord have mercy, Tennesseer! That poor woman, and I can't even imagine how painful that was for your family. Even though it was many years back, you have my sincere sympathy. Thanks, busymom.
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Post by Tennesseer on Apr 1, 2022 19:19:58 GMT -5
decent sized town. esp for back then. terrible. Home of the Basketball Hall of Fame.
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Post by azucena on Apr 2, 2022 8:37:59 GMT -5
My favorite uncle worked road construction. He and my aunt married late in life in their mid 40s - my aunt is my blood relative. They had only been married 18 months when he was involved in a horrific accident. Something broke on the asphalt truck he was working with and he was covered from the waist down in hot asphalt with splatters on his chest. He was in the hospital for 18 months and then in/out for several years afterwards and had to do daily physical therapy for years too. I was about 10 when this happened and remember making cards weekly but couldn't see him bc the risk of infection was too great. One particularly terrible week, they snuck me in, I garbed up, and I was able to talk to him thru the room's glass window to boost his morale. My aunt was amazing and went from no medical knowledge to taking on as much of his care as they would let her.
He barely had enough good skin left to graft everywhere needed and I think they had to let it regrow in places and harvest again. He used an electric wheelchair for a while. I remember going with them to PT sometimes bc I'm sure I was a distraction. My younger brothers went more often and then they would go out to do something as a reward for my uncle.
They sued the company but it took years for them to get some settlement that was good but likely not enough to cover both of their remaining working yrs. Luckily my aunt has always been frugal so I think she had prior investments to live on.
He had a daily skin regimen that took a full hour once it all settled. He had to avoid the sun and the cold was brutal so they wintered in the south.
He passed from cancer about 8 yrs ago. I think of him weekly.
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Post by thyme4change on Apr 6, 2022 19:31:10 GMT -5
Jeepers. We need better care for mental health illnesses. This isn't normal crime.
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Post by Opti on Apr 6, 2022 19:38:01 GMT -5
Jeepers. We need better care for mental health illnesses. This isn't normal crime. I don't know if much of this starts with mental health. I think people who are poor or in bad situations develop bad mental health because of where they find themselves. Good mental health is unlikely to improve her situation so she doesn't need to panhandle. I think we need to work on jobs and poverty first. Mental health interventions would be less if we addressed root cause. Also, given we haven't gotten to single payer yet for everyone, I think expecting society to decide to make mental health the first thing they fund for homeless and down on their luck people is unrealistic.
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Post by thyme4change on Apr 6, 2022 19:48:57 GMT -5
Jeepers. We need better care for mental health illnesses. This isn't normal crime. I don't know if much of this starts with mental health. I think people who are poor or in bad situations develop bad mental health because of where they find themselves. Good mental health is unlikely to improve her situation so she doesn't need to panhandle. I think we need to work on jobs and poverty first. Mental health interventions would be less if we addressed root cause. Also, given we haven't gotten to single payer yet for everyone, I think expecting society to decide to make mental health the first thing they fund for homeless and down on their luck people is unrealistic. The number of homeless whose mental health problems make them incapable of working is very high. Paranoid schizophrenia is a particular call out. If they can get and stay medicated, they have a chance, but if they have not gotten the help they need, getting a job is not step 1. Addiction often starts as self-medication technique. That compounds the illness and decreases the chances that employment is the solution. I don't know if this particular pan-handler was unhomed, but clearly there is a problem.
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