MTG says something stupid (currently about Pete and spouse)

[billisonboard]

Apr 26, 2022 8:14:51 GMT -5 NomoreDramaQ1015 said:

MTG can believe whatever her crazy little heart desires. The problem is her crazy is in a position to shape public policy.

She's using her platform to stir violence and hate. Her base feeds off that and it results in a massive uptick in hate crimes and people showing up at pizza parlors with automatic weapons in the name of saving children.

She's agitating her base against her fellow congressman by implying they are closet pesos all because they did their duty and sworn in a new justice.

Then there is that other dude who made a video of him chopping AOYs head off and implied the same with.Biden.

We need to stop with the idea these things are acceptable because free speech and this is who equally warped people vote into office.

It's time Democrats and non MAGA Republicans actually lead. They need to do what needs to be done to protect their country and stop worrying about the votes.

Otherwise we're going to be overrun. Elect Grassley all you want, prop Stroms corpse up for decades all you want.

MTG and Co need to go. I'm sure though I haven't heard any equally radical and nutty left running candidates that also need shot down.

Where do you envision them going? I do think they should be voted out of office which would show that they do not have support. That is the only thing that would truly weaken them.

[NomoreDramaQ1015]

I think they should be kicked out. There will never be no support so long as they can continue to feed their base and use the national stage to recruit more.

Jewish space lasers and pizza sex rings have no place in our government and it's time we made that clear.

Same in regards to whatever leftist conspiracy theories out there should they start worming their way onto the national stage.

Words have consequences. If we leave it up to their base to see the light these people are going to do even more damage.

It's time to take a stand. You want to watch dark web videos on your own time fine but we're not putting people who feed you and shape policy based on it into office.

What about all the people being harmed as these views are encouraged? That's all right because people want leaders who incite violence against the marginalized? Since they votedoh well?

[billisonboard]

Apr 26, 2022 9:04:29 GMT -5 NomoreDramaQ1015 said:

I think they should be kicked out. There will never be no support so long as they can continue to feed their base and use the national stage to recruit more.

Jewish space lasers and pizza sex rings have no place in our government and it's time we made that clear.

Same in regards to whatever leftist conspiracy theories out there should they start worming their way onto the national stage.

Words have consequences. If we leave it up to their base to see the light these people are going to do even more damage.

It's time to take a stand. You want to watch dark web videos on your own time fine but we're not putting people who feed you and shape policy based on it into office.

What about all the people being harmed as these views are encouraged? That's all right because people want leaders who incite violence against the marginalized? Since they votedoh well?

I hear that "we" need to stop "them". I see that as potentially more dangerous than what is happening now.

[NomoreDramaQ1015]

There should be a side against hate speech, inciting violence and conspiracy theories.

Actions and words have consequences. The progress made thanks to the enlightenment is at risk if we keep letting at the moment a very vocal minority continue to gain momentum.

January 6th was a test run.

If standing against it and expecting my country's leaders to makes me a dangerous person so be it.

MTG can in her corner wearing tin foil hats all she wants. That doesn't and shouldn't translate to she can not only hold office but not face any consequences for her actions just because her constituents like her crap.

[happyhoix]

Apr 26, 2022 8:37:30 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Apr 26, 2022 5:34:54 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

So say she is simply delusional - she also believes there are Jewish space lasers and that Q anon is real. Such a delusional person is dangerous to the country and should not be in Congress. 

If she were running in my congressional district, she wouldn't get my vote. I do question how dangerous she is to the country. Granted she is a voice for the lunatic fringe. I don't see banning her from Congress silencing her. In fact, I think it would give her martyr status in the eyes of many. And what actual power does 1 of 435 have? I say keep her as the excellent example of what a crazy Republican Representative looks like that she is.

Yes but if she’s left in office, she would still have access to state secrets. She could still funnel that information to foreign agents - or sell it to corporations. There is some evidence that some of this lunatics allowed members of groups like the proud boys access to come in and scope out the capital layout prior to J6. And there was a situation out west somewhere where a state rep opened a locked side door to allow violent protesters into the state capital. MTG could do a lot of damage, if no one tells her this kind of behavior is not patriotic, it’s wrong.

Besides, do you really think she believes Trump won? Shortly after J6, she and a lot of other far right reps said this violence was wrong and Trump lost the election. Then, two weeks in when Trump was pushing his way back to the GOP leader, and McConnell and McCarthy and all the other Trump monkeys were hurrying down to Mar a Lago, they suddenly realized their MAGA base wanted them to tout the big lie, and they did. All of them, even Trump, (as he’s let slip a few times) knows Trump lost. Now they’re just after donations, Trump endorsements and a little time in the spotlight.

And really, is it fair to give prison sentences to the little minnows while the whales get off Scott free? The minnows were duped. The whales were not.

[billisonboard]

Apr 26, 2022 10:54:45 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

Apr 26, 2022 8:37:30 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

If she were running in my congressional district, she wouldn't get my vote. I do question how dangerous she is to the country. Granted she is a voice for the lunatic fringe. I don't see banning her from Congress silencing her. In fact, I think it would give her martyr status in the eyes of many. And what actual power does 1 of 435 have? I say keep her as the excellent example of what a crazy Republican Representative looks like that she is.

Yes but if she’s left in office, she would still have access to state secrets. She could still funnel that information to foreign agents - or sell it to corporations. There is some evidence that some of this lunatics allowed members of groups like the proud boys access to come in and scope out the capital layout prior to J6. And there was a situation out west somewhere where a state rep opened a locked side door to allow violent protesters into the state capital. MTG could do a lot of damage, if no one tells her this kind of behavior is not patriotic, it’s wrong.

Besides, do you really think she believes Trump won? Shortly after J6, she and a lot of other far right reps said this violence was wrong and Trump lost the election. Then, two weeks in when Trump was pushing his way back to the GOP leader, and McConnell and McCarthy and all the other Trump monkeys were hurrying down to Mar a Lago, they suddenly realized their MAGA base wanted them to tout the big lie, and they did. All of them, even Trump, (as he’s let slip a few times) knows Trump lost. Now they’re just after donations, Trump endorsements and a little time in the spotlight.

And really, is it fair to give prison sentences to the little minnows while the whales get off Scott free? The minnows were duped. The whales were not.

Yes she could .... and if she does, she should be prosecuted. And if she is banned from office, the lunatic who the voters put into office should be prosecuted if they do something illegal.

She and others spoke against the attack. I don't think she has ever stated Trump lost.

I see her as a symptom, not the problem.

[happyhoix]

Apr 26, 2022 13:38:32 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Apr 26, 2022 10:54:45 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

Yes but if she’s left in office, she would still have access to state secrets. She could still funnel that information to foreign agents - or sell it to corporations. There is some evidence that some of this lunatics allowed members of groups like the proud boys access to come in and scope out the capital layout prior to J6. And there was a situation out west somewhere where a state rep opened a locked side door to allow violent protesters into the state capital. MTG could do a lot of damage, if no one tells her this kind of behavior is not patriotic, it’s wrong.

Besides, do you really think she believes Trump won? Shortly after J6, she and a lot of other far right reps said this violence was wrong and Trump lost the election. Then, two weeks in when Trump was pushing his way back to the GOP leader, and McConnell and McCarthy and all the other Trump monkeys were hurrying down to Mar a Lago, they suddenly realized their MAGA base wanted them to tout the big lie, and they did. All of them, even Trump, (as he’s let slip a few times) knows Trump lost. Now they’re just after donations, Trump endorsements and a little time in the spotlight.

And really, is it fair to give prison sentences to the little minnows while the whales get off Scott free? The minnows were duped. The whales were not.

Yes she could .... and if she does, she should be prosecuted. And if she is banned from office, the lunatic who the voters put into office should be prosecuted if they do something illegal.

She and others spoke against the attack. I don't think she has ever stated Trump lost.

I see her as a symptom, not the problem.

If all she did was talk, I would agree with you.

But she planned, along with other like minded congressmen and civilians and WH staff and possibly even Trump to disrupt Congress while they were performing the certifying count to validate an election.

Disrupting official congressional business in an effort to keep the election from being certified = sedition to me.

[NomoreDramaQ1015]

Her stirring up a group that has a known history of violence by hinting her fellow Republicans are closet pedos should be enough to boot her.

Same with that dude's anime video depicting violence against AOC.

I can get fired for saying those things at work but we're going to allow elected leaders to keep their jobs because people who think that behavior is acceptable voted them into office?

When does it become enough? I can't yell fire in a public building then declare free speech. Congressmen shouldn't be able to.say those things and declare I was voted in to say it.

[billisonboard]

Apr 26, 2022 14:54:29 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

Apr 26, 2022 13:38:32 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Yes she could .... and if she does, she should be prosecuted. And if she is banned from office, the lunatic who the voters put into office should be prosecuted if they do something illegal.

She and others spoke against the attack. I don't think she has ever stated Trump lost.

I see her as a symptom, not the problem.

If all she did was talk, I would agree with you.

But she planned, along with other like minded congressmen and civilians and WH staff and possibly even Trump to disrupt Congress while they were performing the certifying count to validate an election.

Disrupting official congressional business in an effort to keep the election from being certified = sedition to me.

I read what was disclosed at her hearing and did not see where they showed she was involved in planning illegitimate activity.

[billisonboard]

Apr 26, 2022 15:05:29 GMT -5 NomoreDramaQ1015 said:

Her stirring up a group that has a known history of violence by hinting her fellow Republicans are closet pedos should be enough to boot her.

Same with that dude's anime video depicting violence against AOC.

I can get fired for saying those things at work but we're going to allow elected leaders to keep their jobs because people who think that behavior is acceptable voted them into office?

When does it become enough? I can't yell fire in a public building then declare free speech. Congressmen shouldn't be able to.say those things and declare I was voted in to say it.

Representative government is messy.

[ken a.k.a OMK]

She wouldn't answer the questions. Just said she doesn't remember. If she answered they could ask a follow-up question and lead her into admitting illegal activity. 

[dondub]

She quite easily perjured herself. She used the Reagan Defense...”I can’t remember”.

[billisonboard]

Apr 26, 2022 16:22:30 GMT -5 ken a.k.a OMK said:

She wouldn't answer the questions. Just said she doesn't remember. If she answered they could ask a follow-up question and lead her into admitting illegal activity. 

Damn her for not proving the case against her. Is that what her accusers were counting on? They had nothing else?

[ken a.k.a OMK]

Maybe saying you don't remember is better then taking the 5th. That has legal consequences I believe.

[happyhoix]

Apr 26, 2022 18:25:13 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Apr 26, 2022 16:22:30 GMT -5 ken a.k.a OMK said:

She wouldn't answer the questions. Just said she doesn't remember. If she answered they could ask a follow-up question and lead her into admitting illegal activity. 

Damn her for not proving the case against her. Is that what her accusers were counting on? They had nothing else?

In the group of texts that Mark Meadows released this week, MTG sent Meadows a text after the J6 coup failed but prior to Inauguration Day stating that she and several other GOP members had discussed how dire the situation was, urging Meadows to get the president to declare martial (or as she spelled it, Marshall) law.

There, in black and white (electronically) is proof she 1) colluded with others, and 2) actively sought to prevent the swearing in of a duly elected president.

Two concrete subversion actions we have proof she did.

Whether she really believed the election was stolen or not does not absolve her of those two actions.

If I start having paranoid delusions that zombies are attacking us, that does not absolve me of murder if I shoot the mailman when he comes on my porch to deliver a package.

[tbop77]

Apr 26, 2022 15:05:29 GMT -5 NomoreDramaQ1015 said:

Her stirring up a group that has a known history of violence by hinting her fellow Republicans are closet pedos should be enough to boot her.

Same with that dude's anime video depicting violence against AOC.

I can get fired for saying those things at work but we're going to allow elected leaders to keep their jobs because people who think that behavior is acceptable voted them into office?

When does it become enough? I can't yell fire in a public building then declare free speech. Congressmen shouldn't be able to.say those things and declare I was voted in to say it.

Oklahoma GOP chair John Bennett, who is running for Congress, said he wants to put Dr. Anthony Fauci in front of a firing squad ― and the crowd at a campaign event clapped and cheered.

www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/republicans-cheer-as-congressional-candidate-demands-fauci-s-execution-by-firing-squad/ar-AAWDNJZ?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=9d863119e2d34fad92e0f088f8fea07f

This is what the MAGA crowd wants...make an outrageous comment, doesn't matter if it is the truth or not.  Trump liberated them.  

[Opti]

Apr 27, 2022 6:53:02 GMT -5 tbop77 said:

Apr 26, 2022 15:05:29 GMT -5 NomoreDramaQ1015 said:

Her stirring up a group that has a known history of violence by hinting her fellow Republicans are closet pedos should be enough to boot her.

Same with that dude's anime video depicting violence against AOC.

I can get fired for saying those things at work but we're going to allow elected leaders to keep their jobs because people who think that behavior is acceptable voted them into office?

When does it become enough? I can't yell fire in a public building then declare free speech. Congressmen shouldn't be able to.say those things and declare I was voted in to say it.

Oklahoma GOP chair John Bennett, who is running for Congress, said he wants to put Dr. Anthony Fauci in front of a firing squad ― and the crowd at a campaign event clapped and cheered.

www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/republicans-cheer-as-congressional-candidate-demands-fauci-s-execution-by-firing-squad/ar-AAWDNJZ?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=9d863119e2d34fad92e0f088f8fea07f

This is what the MAGA crowd wants...make an outrageous comment, doesn't matter if it is the truth or not.  Trump liberated them.  

What a sick man. Crimes? I think John Bennett was closer to a crime in that speech than Fauci ever was. 

[NomoreDramaQ1015]

Apr 27, 2022 6:53:02 GMT -5 tbop77 said:

Apr 26, 2022 15:05:29 GMT -5 NomoreDramaQ1015 said:

Her stirring up a group that has a known history of violence by hinting her fellow Republicans are closet pedos should be enough to boot her.

Same with that dude's anime video depicting violence against AOC.

I can get fired for saying those things at work but we're going to allow elected leaders to keep their jobs because people who think that behavior is acceptable voted them into office?

When does it become enough? I can't yell fire in a public building then declare free speech. Congressmen shouldn't be able to.say those things and declare I was voted in to say it.

Oklahoma GOP chair John Bennett, who is running for Congress, said he wants to put Dr. Anthony Fauci in front of a firing squad ― and the crowd at a campaign event clapped and cheered.

www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/republicans-cheer-as-congressional-candidate-demands-fauci-s-execution-by-firing-squad/ar-AAWDNJZ?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=9d863119e2d34fad92e0f088f8fea07f

This is what the MAGA crowd wants...make an outrageous comment, doesn't matter if it is the truth or not.  Trump liberated them.  

Well they cheered so it's 100% acceptable. If someone decides to take him up on the idea that's okay too because it's not up to our leaders to have or be held to higher standards.

Whatever gets then elected and everyone else needs to just deal with it.

[billisonboard]

Apr 27, 2022 6:52:30 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

Apr 26, 2022 18:25:13 GMT -5 billisonboard said:

Damn her for not proving the case against her. Is that what her accusers were counting on? They had nothing else?

In the group of texts that Mark Meadows released this week, MTG sent Meadows a text after the J6 coup failed but prior to Inauguration Day stating that she and several other GOP members had discussed how dire the situation was, urging Meadows to get the president to declare martial (or as she spelled it, Marshall) law.

There, in black and white (electronically) is proof she 1) colluded with others, and 2) actively sought to prevent the swearing in of a duly elected president.

Two concrete subversion actions we have proof she did.

Whether she really believed the election was stolen or not does not absolve her of those two actions.

If I start having paranoid delusions that zombies are attacking us, that does not absolve me of murder if I shoot the mailman when he comes on my porch to deliver a package.

What she said:

"In our private chat with only Members, several are saying the only way to save our Republic is for Trump to call for Marshall (sic) law. I don't know on (sic) those things. I just wanted you to tell him," Greene's text read.

"They stole this election. We all know. They will destroy our country next. Please tell him to declassify as much as possible so we can go after Biden and anyone else!" she added.

Yes, she talked with others about the situation. Didn't you? Does the text say Trump might want to consider declaring martial law, yes. That was bad advice but is criminal subversion? I don't think so.

I am not a lawyer but I do think that mental capacity does factor into cases involving the killing of another.

[billisonboard]

Apr 27, 2022 8:07:50 GMT -5 NomoreDramaQ1015 said:

Apr 27, 2022 6:53:02 GMT -5 tbop77 said:

Oklahoma GOP chair John Bennett, who is running for Congress, said he wants to put Dr. Anthony Fauci in front of a firing squad ― and the crowd at a campaign event clapped and cheered.

www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/republicans-cheer-as-congressional-candidate-demands-fauci-s-execution-by-firing-squad/ar-AAWDNJZ?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=9d863119e2d34fad92e0f088f8fea07f

This is what the MAGA crowd wants...make an outrageous comment, doesn't matter if it is the truth or not.  Trump liberated them.  

Well they cheered so it's 100% acceptable. If someone decides to take him up on the idea that's okay too because it's not up to our leaders to have or be held to higher standards.

Whatever gets then elected and everyone else needs to just deal with it.

“And by the way, we should try Anthony Fauci and put him in front of a firing squad,” said Bennett, not really expanding on what crime Fauci has committed.

Then he clarified “And for the Secret Service, if they’re listening, I’m not advocating we kill Anthony Fauci … until he’s convicted of his crimes through a court.”

No idea what they would charge him with but if a prosecutor takes him up on it and charges Fauci, if he is convicted, if he loses all appeals, if death by firing squad is an approved method in whichever jurisdiction, then I would have to accept it as okay.

[bean29]

www.newsweek.com/marjorie-taylor-greene-clarifies-how-satan-controlling-catholic-church-1701596?msclkid=f4c60fd8c70c11ecb0420718806d2f7a


So, I open the article to see the latest stupid think she did or said, and well, I actually kind of agree with her.

Greene, currently an Evangelical Protestant, noted that she was "a cradle Catholic," having been "born into the Church."



The Georgia Republican said that she left Catholicism after realizing that she "could not trust the Church leadership to protect my children from pedophiles," referring to the Catholic Church's extensive history of alleged child sex abuse by clergy.



The congresswoman accused Donohue of being a "lapdog" for the Catholic Church and clarified that her earlier comments did not apply to lay Catholics, while insisting that bishops and other church leaders were in league with Satan.


"It's the church leadership I was referring to when I invoked the Devil," said Greene. "The bishops know that, but had their loyal lapdog pretend I was being disrespectful about the faith. Just so we're clear, bishops, when I said 'controlled by Satan,' I wasn't talking about the Catholic Church. I was talking about you."

Greene's original comments to Voris were in relation to Catholic Charities providing aid to undocumented immigrants. Donohue's response argued that the congresswoman "had plenty of opportunities to make rational criticisms of the agency, but instead she slandered the entire Catholic Church."

So, her original comments were about the Catholic Church providing aid to illegal immigrants - I don't agree with her position on that.  I feel that is what Jesus would expect from Christians.  I don't know if the above statement is really in line with her true feelings, or if someone told her to say that to wiggle out of a bad spot.  I felt the Church filing bankruptcy to avoid responsibility for the Victims of their Priests and them continuing to shelter the Guilty even after they were identified was Unconscionable.  It is the main reason I stopped attending mass every week.  

[NomoreDramaQ1015]

I'm sure like a broken clock MTG can occasionally be right.

I've given Trump credit where he wasn't wrong with his initial point.

It's the fact they then take it and run off into crazy ville with it that's the problem.

Which is IMO what democrats need to focus on instead of going after every word they say. That just drives people into being more willing to give the crazy benefit of the doubt.