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Post by happyhoix on Apr 8, 2022 6:50:29 GMT -5
MTG reported Kimmel to the Capital Police for threatening violence against her. So typical of these far right snowflakes. Pose with military grade weapons in their political ads, talk shit about everyone else, and whine when they’re the butt of a joke. Reminds me of Devin Nunes suing over that cow thing.
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Post by Opti on Apr 8, 2022 7:37:54 GMT -5
MTG reported Kimmel to the Capital Police for threatening violence against her. So typical of these far right snowflakes. Pose with military grade weapons in their political ads, talk shit about everyone else, and whine when they’re the butt of a joke. Reminds me of Devin Nunes suing over that cow thing. Reporting it to the Capitol Police is not whining though. It is showing her risk assessment is off, broken. Kimmel isn't going to slap her, Will isn't going to slap her, so what does she think is going to happen? And given what she has said about Jan. 6th, why would the Capitol Police want to help her?
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Post by Opti on Apr 10, 2022 18:40:08 GMT -5
Poor baby. Someone should ask if she will stop celebrating Independence Day or Easter as they only happened once too.
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Post by happyhoix on Apr 11, 2022 12:29:50 GMT -5
People broke windows and doors to illegally invade the seat of our democracy, specifically searching for the sitting VP so they could hang him for his failure to subvert a legitimate election, and we’re supposed to shrug that off because it doesn’t happen monthly?
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Post by djAdvocate on Apr 11, 2022 16:02:24 GMT -5
The Black Plague only happened one time, as well. but it altered human history in a devastating way.
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Post by happyhoix on Apr 19, 2022 14:21:08 GMT -5
I can’t post a link on my phone, but multiple sources are reporting that A Georgia judge is allowing the challenge against MTG being able to serve in Congress to move forward. This Friday she has to go before a state administration law judge in Atlanta and testify under oath about her part in the J6 insurrection.
I sure hope that will be televised. I bet ten bucks she calls the judge a moron.
After the civil war, Congress passed the 14th amendment to keep seditious people from holding office. There was an amnesty ruling later in for the participants in the civil war, which some legal experts say makes the 14th void, but most say it still stands.
Of course, MTG is insisting she had nothing to do with J6 and was strongly against it - I would like to hear her response on why she claimed J6 was our 1776 moment. She isn’t good at a reasoned discourse, she just likes to call people names, hence my 10 buck bet.
Apparently this is the start of trying to inch closer to charging Trump with sedition. Get some of these major players first, prove at the 14th is valid, then go after the primary weasel when he files to run in 2024.
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Post by Tennesseer on Apr 19, 2022 17:41:07 GMT -5
I can’t post a link on my phone, but multiple sources are reporting that A Georgia judge is allowing the challenge against MTG being able to serve in Congress to move forward. This Friday she has to go before a state administration law judge in Atlanta and testify under oath about her part in the J6 insurrection. I sure hope that will be televised. I bet ten bucks she calls the judge a moron. After the civil war, Congress passed the 14th amendment to keep seditious people from holding office. There was an amnesty ruling later in for the participants in the civil war, which some legal experts say makes the 14th void, but most say it still stands. Of course, MTG is insisting she had nothing to do with J6 and was strongly against it - I would like to hear her response on why she claimed J6 was our 1776 moment. She isn’t good at a reasoned discourse, she just likes to call people names, hence my 10 buck bet. Apparently this is the start of trying to inch closer to charging Trump with sedition. Get some of these major players first, prove at the 14th is valid, then go after the primary weasel when he files to run in 2024. Billisonboard made a good point on a New thread started today about going forward with trying to block MTG from running again. I think those on the left are setting up dangerous precedents for when it is them who are protesting governmental actions. I wonder how similar arguments could have been made against elected officials speaking out against US involvement in Vietnam.
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Post by happyhoix on Apr 19, 2022 19:33:38 GMT -5
There’s speaking out, then there is inciting a riot.
If Trump had held his J6 rally and everyone cheered and cheered and then went home I would have been fine with it.
Well, I would have rolled my eyes.
Breaking into the Capital with a rope to hang pence - nope.
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Post by Opti on Apr 23, 2022 8:10:28 GMT -5
I read about the part she was trying to reframe calling Nancy Pelosi treasonous after failing on saying she hadn't said that. After the roll of the evidence, she tried to pretend it concerned something else.
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Post by Opti on Apr 23, 2022 8:28:34 GMT -5
www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/oh-no-wait-marjorie-taylor-greene-s-own-words-haunt-her/ar-AAWuthd?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=665b7f8f55ee41618511ec9607a3d339Greene could not evade all her past actions, however. After she initially denied calling House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) a “traitor to our country,” the lawyer questioning her proceeded to pull out an exhibit contradicting her statement. She then tried to backtrack her initial denial, arguing Pelosi’s support for migrants crossing the border amounted to betraying her oath of office.
“Oh no, wait, hold on now! I believe, by not securing the border, that violates her oath of office,” Greene said. The lawyer had to remind Greene that he had not asked about Pelosi’s commitment to her constitutional oath before citing a CNN article including Greene’s comments, which said Pelosi was “guilty of treason” which is “punishable by death.”
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How a Civil War-era law has brought Marjorie Taylor Greene into court
A group of Georgia voters is hoping an arcane Constitutional law could knock U.S. Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene off the ballot. Greene, R-Ga., on Friday testified in an administrative hearing on a challenge to her candidacy for reelection, raised by a group of Georgia voters, who claim that the congresswoman helped facilitate the Jan. 6 Capitol riot. The riot stemmed from efforts to stop the certification of Joe Biden's presidential election win. Under a rarely-used provision of the 14th Amendment, she could be disqualified from the ballot. Here's what you need to know about the provision and how its influencing the 2022 midterm elections. History of the provisionThe 14th Amendment, which is comprised of five sections, was ratified in 1868, shortly after the Civil War came to an end. It was meant to put the Union's idea of what it accomplished during the Civil War into the Constitution, said Eric Foner, a Pulitzer Prize-winning historian at Columbia University. Part of that was ensuring that formerly enslaved people were extended the liberties and rights granted by the Bill of Rights. For example, the 14th Amendment granted citizenship to "all persons born or naturalized in the United States" and cemented that no state could deprive any person of "life, liberty or property, without due process of law" nor deny anyone equal protection under the law. But a lesser-known intention of the amendment was to encourage "loyal government" in the South. "In other words, people holding office would not be former Confederates," Foner said. "(The North) didn't fight the Civil War in order to put Confederates back into power in the South." The amendment's third section reads: "No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability." That means any former government official or military officer who promised to uphold the Constitution can't serve again if they engage in insurrection unless two-thirds of the U.S. House of Representatives and Senate each votes to pardon them, said Gerard Magliocca, a constitutional law professor at Indiana University. The provision, however, isn't a formal punishment, Foner said. "It's not a crime; it's a qualification for office," he said. "It's like being 35 years old. If AOC decided right now to run for president, somebody could go to court and say she can't run because she's not 35 years old." Complete article here: How a Civil War-era law has brought Marjorie Taylor Greene into court
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Post by happyhoix on Apr 23, 2022 12:56:53 GMT -5
Listening to her testimony has been amazing - I don’t think I ever heard her speak so politely, almost coquettishly. I swear sometimes she tosses her hair.
Very different from her usual belligerent, FU persona.
This will be reviewed by the SOS, Raffensburger who is a republican, but one of those rare republicans with a spine who stood up to Trump and refused to ‘find 11,000 votes’ for him in the 2020 election. I’m sure MTG has probably said some shit about Raffensburger over the last two years, given how far up Trump’s ass she wedges her head,. I don’t think he would let that influence his decision, though. I think he’ll strictly go by what he thinks the law says. I guess it depends on whether you think the 14th amendment was only to punish Southern confederates after the civil war, or if it can be used today.
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Post by billisonboard on Apr 23, 2022 13:26:41 GMT -5
Listening to her testimony has been amazing - I don’t think I ever heard her speak so politely, almost coquettishly. I swear sometimes she tosses her hair. Very different from her usual belligerent, FU persona. This will be reviewed by the SOS, Raffensburger who is a republican, but one of those rare republicans with a spine who stood up to Trump and refused to ‘find 11,000 votes’ for him in the 2020 election. I’m sure MTG has probably said some shit about Raffensburger over the last two years, given how far up Trump’s ass she wedges her head,. I don’t think he would let that influence his decision, though. I think he’ll strictly go by what he thinks the law says. I guess it depends on whether you think the 14th amendment was only to punish Southern confederates after the civil war, or if it can be used today. I think it can be used today. However, I struggle with what precise behaviors would constitute "engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof." Clearly those who invaded the Capitol Building meet the criteria. I think the totality of President Trump's words and actions before and on January 6th do also. But I think that efforts to find legal ways to alter the election result do not.
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Marjorie Taylor Greene Tweets 'Today Is 1776' After Denying 2nd Meaning Under Oath
Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene posted a tweet Saturday declaring that “today and everyday is 1776” only hours after denying under oath that she knew the term was sometimes used as far-right shorthand for violent uprising. The post came the morning after the extremist Georgia Republican was repeatedly asked about the term in a court hearing over whether she can run for reelection under the 14th Amendment, which bars elected representatives from participating in insurrections. In a Georgia courtroom on Friday, Greene had been shown a video of an interview she gave to Newsmax the day before the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol. Greene said she did not remember speaking to the outlet, a tactic she used many times when confronted on the stand with records of her past statements. “This is our 1776 moment,” she told the Newsmax host in the clip, saying that specific sentiment was shared by many of her GOP colleagues. While 1776 is, of course, a crucially important year in American history, it has also been co-opted by far-right groups like the Proud Boys, the extremist organization behind the online store “1776.shop.” Some of the Trump supporters who attacked the Capitol last year were pictured wearing items of clothing with “1776” featured prominently, likening protest of Trump’s election loss to revolution. Greene told attorney Andrew Celli, who represents the group of voters suing her, that she didn’t “know much about the Proud Boys.” Greene had urged her supporters to turn out the day of Jan. 6, 2021, to protest Donald Trump’s election loss. But the congresswoman claimed that she had never heard anybody talk about violence in connection with the protest, or that she had ever advocated for violence to achieve political ends. From the stand, she said that “1776 moment” referred to the “courage to object” to Joe Biden’s presidential election win. The Saturday tweet was posted to Greene’s official Twitter page; her personal Twitter account was banned from the service last year after she used it to peddle falsehoods about the 2020 election. Marjorie Taylor Greene Tweets 'Today Is 1776' After Denying 2nd Meaning Under Oath
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Marjorie Taylor Greene denies calling for Pelosi's execution during trial, then backtracksRep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, (R-GA) Kent Nishimura / Los Angeles Times via Getty Images Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, R-Ga., on Friday appeared to walk back her denial of calling House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., "a traitor to the country" in a trial around her eligibility for re-election, admitting that she previously said Pelosi "violated her oath of office." Greene's seeming about-face came under oath this week when questioned about her rhetoric and actions leading up to the Capitol riot. The trial stems from a recent lawsuit brought by a group of Georgia voters who argued that the Georgia freshman does not qualify for re-election over her apparent violation of the 14th Amendment, which bars anyone who supported an insurrection from running for Congress. During the hearing, lawyer Ron Fein, who is representing the plaintiffs, asked Grenee if she called Pelosi a "traitor" in her many disagreements with the House Speaker. "In fact, you think that Speaker Pelosi is a traitor to the country, right?" Fain inquired. "I'm not answering that question," Greene responded. "I haven't said that." "Put up plaintiff's exhibit 5," Fain pressed on. "Oh, no," Greene interjected. Wait. Hold on now…" Complete article here: Marjorie Taylor Greene denies calling for Pelosi's execution during trial, then backtracks
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Marjorie Taylor Greene denies calling for Pelosi's execution during trial, then backtracksRep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, (R-GA) Kent Nishimura / Los Angeles Times via Getty Images Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, R-Ga., on Friday appeared to walk back her denial of calling House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., "a traitor to the country" in a trial around her eligibility for re-election, admitting that she previously said Pelosi "violated her oath of office." Greene's seeming about-face came under oath this week when questioned about her rhetoric and actions leading up to the Capitol riot. The trial stems from a recent lawsuit brought by a group of Georgia voters who argued that the Georgia freshman does not qualify for re-election over her apparent violation of the 14th Amendment, which bars anyone who supported an insurrection from running for Congress. During the hearing, lawyer Ron Fein, who is representing the plaintiffs, asked Grenee if she called Pelosi a "traitor" in her many disagreements with the House Speaker. "In fact, you think that Speaker Pelosi is a traitor to the country, right?" Fain inquired. "I'm not answering that question," Greene responded. "I haven't said that." "Put up plaintiff's exhibit 5," Fain pressed on. "Oh, no," Greene interjected. Wait. Hold on now…" Complete article here: Marjorie Taylor Greene denies calling for Pelosi's execution during trial, then backtracks I saw that and was like AYFKM?!
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Post by mollyanna58 on Apr 25, 2022 15:46:53 GMT -5
She's used to Trump not being held accountable for things he said and figured she would also skate by.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Apr 25, 2022 15:57:55 GMT -5
She's used to Trump not being held accountable for things he said and figured she would also skate by. She hasn't been accountable for anything she has said either. Sure she lost committee spots but big whoop more time to focus on her media status. I would be surprised if her trial goes anywhere. It'll end up being another thing Republicans can use as evidence that liberals are out to persecute those who seek to protect America. Personally I think it has to be done, we can't have our Representatives talking about Jewish Space lasers from their congressional seat. We should absolutely be questioning her and every other MAGA clowns right to hold office. I just don't have faith this is the way to do it and like Bills am concerned it will give Republicans a brand new weapon to wield and they will wield it way more effectively. Democrats need to stop taking the high road and get in the mud.
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Post by billisonboard on Apr 25, 2022 19:45:14 GMT -5
She was clearly operating under the belief that the election was stolen and Biden was going to illegitimately be sworn in as President. If she were correct in that, she would be correct that not allowing the inauguration to go forward would be necessary to save the Republic. With that, I don’t think she has formed the intent to commit treason. She is simply sadly mistaken.
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Post by dondub on Apr 25, 2022 20:38:56 GMT -5
She was clearly operating under the belief that the election was stolen and Biden was going to illegitimately be sworn in as President. If she were correct in that, she would be correct that not allowing the inauguration to go forward would be necessary to save the Republic. With that, I don’t think she has formed the intent to commit treason. She is simply sadly mistaken. Oh c’mon Bill. She kissed Trump’s lying ass about the election being stolen and had 2 full months while every Repo-Con lizard crawled under every rock looking for one shred of evidence. On this last Bill Maher he had a bit about how they will now just think every election they don’t win has been stolen. No support for democracy and none for the Constitution. Think Loren Culp. She is Treasonous.
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Post by billisonboard on Apr 25, 2022 21:34:29 GMT -5
She was clearly operating under the belief that the election was stolen and Biden was going to illegitimately be sworn in as President. If she were correct in that, she would be correct that not allowing the inauguration to go forward would be necessary to save the Republic. With that, I don’t think she has formed the intent to commit treason. She is simply sadly mistaken. Oh c’mon Bill. She kissed Trump’s lying ass about the election being stolen and had 2 full months while every Repo-Con lizard crawled under every rock looking for one shred of evidence. On this last Bill Maher he had a bit about how they will now just think every election they don’t win has been stolen. No support for democracy and none for the Constitution. Think Loren Culp. She is Treasonous. There are a lot of people suffering a lot of delusions in this world. And will continue to do so. Our democracy can handle it ... or perhaps not. Bureaucratic determinations to not allow this person or that person onto ballots won't save it. The American people need to decide.
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She was clearly operating under the belief that the election was stolen and Biden was going to illegitimately be sworn in as President. If she were correct in that, she would be correct that not allowing the inauguration to go forward would be necessary to save the Republic. With that, I don’t think she has formed the intent to commit treason. She is simply sadly mistaken. So say she is simply delusional - she also believes there are Jewish space lasers and that Q anon is real. Such a delusional person is dangerous to the country and should not be in Congress.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Apr 26, 2022 8:14:51 GMT -5
MTG can believe whatever her crazy little heart desires. The problem is her crazy is in a position to shape public policy.
She's using her platform to stir violence and hate. Her base feeds off that and it results in a massive uptick in hate crimes and people showing up at pizza parlors with automatic weapons in the name of saving children.
She's agitating her base against her fellow congressman by implying they are closet pesos all because they did their duty and sworn in a new justice.
Then there is that other dude who made a video of him chopping AOYs head off and implied the same with.Biden.
We need to stop with the idea these things are acceptable because free speech and this is who equally warped people vote into office.
It's time Democrats and non MAGA Republicans actually lead. They need to do what needs to be done to protect their country and stop worrying about the votes.
Otherwise we're going to be overrun. Elect Grassley all you want, prop Stroms corpse up for decades all you want.
MTG and Co need to go. I'm sure though I haven't heard any equally radical and nutty left running candidates that also need shot down.
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Post by billisonboard on Apr 26, 2022 8:37:30 GMT -5
She was clearly operating under the belief that the election was stolen and Biden was going to illegitimately be sworn in as President. If she were correct in that, she would be correct that not allowing the inauguration to go forward would be necessary to save the Republic. With that, I don’t think she has formed the intent to commit treason. She is simply sadly mistaken. So say she is simply delusional - she also believes there are Jewish space lasers and that Q anon is real. Such a delusional person is dangerous to the country and should not be in Congress. If she were running in my congressional district, she wouldn't get my vote. I do question how dangerous she is to the country. Granted she is a voice for the lunatic fringe. I don't see banning her from Congress silencing her. In fact, I think it would give her martyr status in the eyes of many. And what actual power does 1 of 435 have? I say keep her as the excellent example of what a crazy Republican Representative looks like that she is.
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