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Post by Tennesseer on Feb 26, 2022 13:08:21 GMT -5
I saw something that said the Taliban has issued a statement warning Russia and Ukraine to maintain peace. Is this true? From today's Jerusalem Post (among others). Taliban call for resolution to Russia-Ukraine war via 'dialogue and peaceful means'"The Islamic Emirate calls for restraint by both parties," The Taliban government in Afghanistan said regarding the Russia-Ukraine conflict. The Taliban government in Afghanistan issued a statement via Twitter on Friday calling for a resolution to the ongoing war between Russia and Ukraine. Afghanistan Ministry of Foreign Affairs spokesman Abdul Qahar Balkhi requested that the situation be resolved through "dialogue and peaceful means." The statement, which was posted in English, read "The Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan is closely monitoring the situation in Ukraine and expresses concern about [the] real possibility of civilian casualties. The Islamic Emirate calls for restraint by both parties. All sides need to desist from taking positions that could intensify violence." The statement concluded by calling for "parties to the conflict to pay attention to safeguarding the lives of Afghan students and migrants in Ukraine." Complete article here: Taliban call for resolution to Russia-Ukraine war via 'dialogue and peaceful means'
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Post by laterbloomer on Feb 26, 2022 13:10:05 GMT -5
Ok, can someone tell me what that means? Are they telling Russia to back off?
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Post by kadee79 on Feb 26, 2022 13:11:00 GMT -5
I didn't get a link...will go back & look, but France confiscated a Russian ship....
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Post by Tennesseer on Feb 26, 2022 13:13:10 GMT -5
Ok, can someone tell me what that means? Are they telling Russia to back off? The Taliban is calling for the attack on Ukraine be resolved through "dialogue and peaceful means."
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Post by laterbloomer on Feb 26, 2022 13:17:40 GMT -5
Ok, can someone tell me what that means? Are they telling Russia to back off? The Taliban is calling for the attack on Ukraine be resolved through "dialogue and peaceful means." I read that. I need a translation of what that means. Are they telling Ukraine to surrender to Russia? Are they telling Russia to get out? Will they join the fighting on one side or the other. Would it make much difference if they did
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 26, 2022 13:19:31 GMT -5
Ok, can someone tell me what that means? Are they telling Russia to back off? The Taliban is calling for the attack on Ukraine be resolved through "dialogue and peaceful means." in other words, they are acting in the way that the US generally acts. that is pause for reflection.
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Post by Tennesseer on Feb 26, 2022 13:19:46 GMT -5
The Taliban is calling for the attack on Ukraine be resolved through "dialogue and peaceful means." I read that. I need a translation of what that means. Are they telling Ukraine to surrender to Russia? Are they telling Russia to get out? Will they join the fighting on one side or the other. Would it make much difference if they did Every on-line news site is reporting the exact same thing. No news site has read between the lines.
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Post by billisonboard on Feb 26, 2022 13:20:04 GMT -5
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Post by kadee79 on Feb 26, 2022 13:25:00 GMT -5
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 26, 2022 13:27:42 GMT -5
Cuba had a half century of sanctions. it definitely retarded development, but did NOT kill the country.
Russia will follow a similar path.
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Post by billisonboard on Feb 26, 2022 13:41:50 GMT -5
He forgot to include that he was going to hold his breath until sanctions are ended.
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Post by happyhoix on Feb 26, 2022 20:47:52 GMT -5
Germany is sending a shit load of rockets and China refused to align with Russia, saying Russia needed to resolve this peacefully. I don’t think Putin expected those two to respond that way.
The UK seized a Russian cargo ship and Elon Musk has deployed satellites into position over the Ukrainian to replace the communications Russia cut.
I hope this proves to be the worst decision Putin made and the one that gets him run out of office and his fancy palace looted and burned down.
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Post by Lizard Queen on Feb 26, 2022 20:56:58 GMT -5
Putin pushed out the true Russian president, poisoned him and arrested him. I don't know how he's going to get run out of office as long as he's got the support of the lackeys that helped him in the first place.
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Post by Tennesseer on Feb 27, 2022 0:03:36 GMT -5
NATO Activates Troops for First Time as Russia Intensifies Its Assault on Ukraine
The North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) has for the first time activated a military response force designed to boost the defenses of frontline nations in eastern Europe that feel vulnerable after Russia’s military assault on Ukraine. Gen. Tod Wolters, NATO’s Supreme Allied Commander and the top U.S. military officer in Europe, said the multinational force consisting of land, air, sea and special operations troops intended to deter Russia from further aggression. “This is an historic moment,” Wolters said in a statement. “These deterrence measures are prudent and enhance our speed, responsiveness and capability to shield and protect the one billion citizens we swore to protect.” The first-time activation of thousands of NATO troops in Europe represents the latest escalation in a volatile ground war that has no modern precedent. In recent months, U.S. and European allies have increased air-policing missions over allied nations and moved troops, naval ships and heavy weaponry eastward on the continent, near where the Russian military is operating. Ukraine is not a NATO member, but it borders four nations that are: Poland, Slovakia, Hungary and Romania. The U.S. and other NATO allies have pledged to protect their eastern and central European members under the alliance’s defining Article 5 mutual defense commitments. President Joe Biden has repeatedly insisted U.S. troops will not fight in Ukraine, but he has redoubled defenses in surrounding countries by moving roughly 14,000 troops eastward in Europe during the past three weeks. Washington has also provided about $650 million in military aid to the pro-Western government. NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg said Friday he received commitments to provide additional equipment, including air defense systems, to Ukraine after leaders from the 30-member alliance held a virtual meeting. “We see rhetoric, the messages, which is strongly indicating that [Russia’s] aim is to remove the democratically-elected government in Kyiv,” he told reporters. The Russian military advance on Kyiv is going slower than U.S. intelligence anticipated, a senior U.S. defense official said Friday, with Ukrainian forces showing stiff resistance. “The Russians have lost a little bit of their momentum,” the official said. “They are not advancing as far or as fast as we believe they expected they would. A good indicator of that is no population centers have been taken. We also assess that Russia has yet to achieve air superiority over Ukraine.” Despite fears that the Ukrainian military would crumble under the combat power Russia continues to pour into the country, Ukrainian command and control remains intact. Air missile defense systems are still working even though installations were destroyed by Russia’s opening salvos, and Ukrainian fighter jets continue to engage Russian warplanes, the U.S. official said. Complete article here: NATO Activates Troops for First Time as Russia Intensifies Its Assault on Ukraine
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Post by happyhoix on Feb 27, 2022 10:48:53 GMT -5
Oh, I thought it was the UK that took that ship - good on France.
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Post by Opti on Feb 27, 2022 10:57:39 GMT -5
Oh, I thought it was the UK that took that ship - good on France. Yes, it was France in the English Channel. In other news, a Russian is whining that he can't partake in his Italian villas. www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/sanctioned-russian-tv-host-cries-about-losing-his-italian-villa/ar-AAUm6yL?ocid=msedgntpIn 2019, before he was poisoned and imprisoned, opposition activist Alexei Navalny and his team released a video report that revealed state TV host Vladimir Soloviev owns not one, but two villas in Italy. The Kremlin mouthpiece known for constantly condemning Europe and the West for their supposed perversion and decay was thus exposed as an absolute hypocrite.During Friday’s edition of The Evening With Vladimir Soloviev, the host raged: “I was told that Europe is a citadel of rights, that everything is permitted, that’s what they said... I know from personal experience about the so-called ‘sacred property rights.’ With every transaction I was bringing paperwork demonstrating my official salary, income, I did it all. I bought it, paid crazy amount of taxes, I did everything. And suddenly someone makes a decision that this journalist is now on the list of sanctions. And right away it affects your real estate. Wait a minute. But you told us that Europe has sacred property rights!”
Stunned and dismayed, Soloviev griped: “All of a sudden, now they say: ‘Are you Russian? Then we will close your bank account, if it’s in Europe. And if it’s in England, you’re allowed to keep no more than a certain amount there. Why? Because you’re Russian.” Prominent economist Mikhail Khazin chimed in: “And that’s if you have an old account. They won’t open a new one.”
Soloviev asked: “Is this the Iron Curtain?” Germany-based pundit Alexander Sosnovsky replied: “Yes, absolutely, the Iron Curtain in its worst manifestation, painted in LGBT colors.” This reference again exemplified Russia’s intolerance towards human rights and sexual minorities, which nonetheless did nothing to prevent Soloviev and other Kremlin propagandists from acquiring expensive real estate in what they consider to be degenerate and immoral Western countries.
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Post by happyhoix on Feb 27, 2022 11:21:27 GMT -5
McMaster is on the TV tube this AM giving me a little bit of hope - he says the Russia invasion is not going as Putin planned, it’s far slower than he expected, and turning from an invasion into a siege. Plus the Russians are running out of supplies, which is always an issue when you split up your invasion force as much as Russia has. He said only 1/3 of the 100,000 Russian troops are combat troops and they are further divided over the 4 main assaults.
He also thinks Putin is scared, surprised at the way the world is standing against him, surprised at how slowly his invasion is taking, and scared that he might face internal unrest at home. He said there are more people in the Russian secret service than are in the Russian military - I guess if the secret service has conspired against Putin they could pull off a quick coup?
Listening to other news this Am, there were multiple people saying that Putin has gotten darker and angrier over the last few years, wanting to hit back at the West and US, so if he is actually scared that this invasion isn’t as easy as he expected it would be, would he resort to nuclear weapons, and would there be anyone in his government with the balls to stop that order from happening?
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Post by laterbloomer on Feb 27, 2022 11:53:54 GMT -5
Question - is anything being done to the Russians that are protesting the war?
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Post by billisonboard on Feb 27, 2022 12:03:54 GMT -5
McMaster is on the TV tube this AM giving me a little bit of hope - he says the Russia invasion is not going as Putin planned, it’s far slower than he expected, and turning from an invasion into a siege. Plus the Russians are running out of supplies, which is always an issue when you split up your invasion force as much as Russia has. He said only 1/3 of the 100,000 Russian troops are combat troops and they are further divided over the 4 main assaults. He also thinks Putin is scared, surprised at the way the world is standing against him, surprised at how slowly his invasion is taking, and scared that he might face internal unrest at home. He said there are more people in the Russian secret service than are in the Russian military - I guess if the secret service has conspired against Putin they could pull off a quick coup? Listening to other news this Am, there were multiple people saying that Putin has gotten darker and angrier over the last few years, wanting to hit back at the West and US, so if he is actually scared that this invasion isn’t as easy as he expected it would be, would he resort to nuclear weapons, and would there be anyone in his government with the balls to stop that order from happening? Not seeing what would be a feasible target of a nuclear attack in this situation.
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Post by Opti on Feb 27, 2022 13:41:11 GMT -5
McMaster is on the TV tube this AM giving me a little bit of hope - he says the Russia invasion is not going as Putin planned, it’s far slower than he expected, and turning from an invasion into a siege. Plus the Russians are running out of supplies, which is always an issue when you split up your invasion force as much as Russia has. He said only 1/3 of the 100,000 Russian troops are combat troops and they are further divided over the 4 main assaults. He also thinks Putin is scared, surprised at the way the world is standing against him, surprised at how slowly his invasion is taking, and scared that he might face internal unrest at home. He said there are more people in the Russian secret service than are in the Russian military - I guess if the secret service has conspired against Putin they could pull off a quick coup? Listening to other news this Am, there were multiple people saying that Putin has gotten darker and angrier over the last few years, wanting to hit back at the West and US, so if he is actually scared that this invasion isn’t as easy as he expected it would be, would he resort to nuclear weapons, and would there be anyone in his government with the balls to stop that order from happening? Not seeing what would be a feasible target of a nuclear attack in this situation. Correct. Dropping a bomb on Ukraine for example, would defeat the purpose of being there in the first place.
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 27, 2022 13:42:49 GMT -5
Not seeing what would be a feasible target of a nuclear attack in this situation. Correct. Dropping a bomb on Ukraine for example, would defeat the purpose of being there in the first place. right. it would be one thing if Ukraine were an aggressor, and you just wanted to wipe them out. but Ukraine is an ASSET, so the idea is to MINIMALLY damage it, and take it.
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 27, 2022 14:44:25 GMT -5
Ukraine could take out the assets threatened by Russia. that would mess things up.
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Post by NastyWoman on Feb 27, 2022 15:23:19 GMT -5
Unless I miss-remember the SWIFT system/code is needed for all international money transactions. So it seems that this would be more than just a little damaging to the Russian ability to do business
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 27, 2022 16:17:42 GMT -5
i have no idea what that means. but just a question: was Bush deranged when he threatened to use Nukes against Iraq?
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