Bidenflation

[Value Buy]

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[ken a.k.a OMK]

Nov 11, 2021 22:07:46 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Nov 11, 2021 8:13:51 GMT -5 ken a.k.a OMK said:

Absolutely. I'm not afraid of an incompetent president doing any more damage with our allies or spreading more hate at home (ok he still is the leader of hate). Most indexes are up and my portfolio is up 25% even with taking out RMD's.

Yes you are retired.
How about the milions of citizens who were sent home for a year without earned income or worked reduce hours for various reasons?
How about senior citizens living on a small SS check with no IRA or pension to supplement their income?

I answered your question on being better off then a year ago. Didn't plan to discuss these issues. If you aren't better off then a year ago then I suggest you figure out what changes to make. 

Millions of people impacted by the economic impact from the pandemic can be blamed on trump not responding to the virus. Obama's administration left a plan on how to cope with such a scenario and trump threw it away. Of course he says he knows more then the experts on all subjects.

How can we help people who didn't save and plan for retirement? I do help those who are in need with volunteering and donations.  

[Opti]

Nov 11, 2021 22:05:33 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Nov 11, 2021 20:33:08 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

If Biden is responsible for the inflation, then Trump is responsible for 780,775 American deaths from the Covid virus.  The number dead to date is from valuebuy's  own thread and source of the number dead.  We all know inflation does not drop down to zero once a president's term in office ends.

Interactive map of the USA reporting Coronavirus cases

trump's grim handling and horiible medical advice to Americans killed hundreds of thousands of Americans and continues to kill thousands.  

Seems to me the needless deaths of over 700,000 Americans is far worse than inflation.  Trump should be held accountable.

For the record Biden's time in office has had more deaths than Trump's 13 months January to January. Have to remember they think the virus was here much ealier than originally thought.

Actually, I think we might end up close to dead even. When Trump left office on Inauguration day we were at 400K dead. I expect we will hit 800K dead by year end. Trump had almost 6 months of the virus not being everywhere in the country. Unfortunately Trump baked in an anti-masking sentiment in his drive to save the economy and get re-elected. We are still paying for that decision. There would have been some anti-masking sentiment without him, but it would not be the religion that some seem to have made it.

[pulmonarymd]

Biden obviously should have forced people to save money all those years ago, even before he was president. Don’t you know anything?

[Tennesseer]

Nov 11, 2021 22:05:33 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Nov 11, 2021 20:33:08 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

If Biden is responsible for the inflation, then Trump is responsible for 780,775 American deaths from the Covid virus.  The number dead to date is from valuebuy's  own thread and source of the number dead.  We all know inflation does not drop down to zero once a president's term in office ends.

Interactive map of the USA reporting Coronavirus cases

trump's grim handling and horiible medical advice to Americans killed hundreds of thousands of Americans and continues to kill thousands.  

Seems to me the needless deaths of over 700,000 Americans is far worse than inflation.  Trump should be held accountable.

For the record Biden's time in office has had more deaths than Trump's 13 months January to January. Have to remember they think the virus was here much ealier than originally thought.

On December 31, 2019, China announced the discovery of a cluster of pneumonia cases in Wuhan. The first American case was reported on January 20, and President Donald Trump declared the U.S. outbreak a public health emergency on January 31. Restrictions were placed on flights arriving from China,[14][15] but the initial U.S. response to the pandemic was otherwise slow, in terms of preparing the healthcare system, stopping other travel, and testing.[16][17][18]

The first known American deaths occurred in February. On March 6, 2020, Trump allocated $8.3 billion to fight the outbreak and declared a national emergency on March 13. The government also purchased large quantities of medical equipment, invoking the Defense Production Act of 1950 to assist.[20] By mid-April, disaster declarations were made by all states and territories as they all had increasing cases. A second wave of infections began in June, following relaxed restrictions in several states, leading to daily cases surpassing 60,000. By mid-October, a third surge of cases began; there were over 200,000 new daily cases during parts of December 2020 and January 2021.[21][22]

COVID-19 pandemic in the United States

[Tennesseer]

Nov 11, 2021 22:24:11 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Bidenflation

Donald Trump

A term used as a substitute to taking a huge shit

guy: I'll be right back. I need to drop a huge Donald Trump

Urban Dictionary: Donald Trump

[Opti]

Nov 11, 2021 22:07:46 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Nov 11, 2021 8:13:51 GMT -5 ken a.k.a OMK said:

Absolutely. I'm not afraid of an incompetent president doing any more damage with our allies or spreading more hate at home (ok he still is the leader of hate). Most indexes are up and my portfolio is up 25% even with taking out RMD's.

Yes you are retired.
How about the milions of citizens who were sent home for a year without earned income or worked reduce hours for various reasons?
How about senior citizens living on a small SS check with no IRA or pension to supplement their income?

I don't know who came back when, but I do know that jobs did go unfilled at SNFs and ALFs in the first year of the pandemic. Some were willing to pickup jobs at grocery stores, but almost no one was willing to consider working reception, in dietary or housekeeping during that time. Because that's where the deaths were.

[Opti]

I'm wondering if we should create new words. I just Googled urban dictionary and found this-


my.urbandictionary.com/add.php

All the definitions on Urban Dictionary were written by people just like you. Now's your chance to add your own!



Please review Urban Dictionary's content guidelines before writing your definition. Here's the short version: Share definitions that other people will find meaningful and never post hate speech or people’s personal information.


I wonder how easy it would be to get words added from the Cheesepedia?

[Value Buy]

Nov 11, 2021 22:26:50 GMT -5 ken a.k.a OMK said:

Nov 11, 2021 22:07:46 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Yes you are retired.
How about the milions of citizens who were sent home for a year without earned income or worked reduce hours for various reasons?
How about senior citizens living on a small SS check with no IRA or pension to supplement their income?

I answered your question on being better off then a year ago. Didn't plan to discuss these issues. If you aren't better off then a year ago then I suggest you figure out what changes to make. 

Millions of people impacted by the economic impact from the pandemic can be blamed on trump not responding to the virus. Obama's administration left a plan on how to cope with such a scenario and trump threw it away. Of course he says he knows more then the experts on all subjects.

How can we help people who didn't save and plan for retirement? I do help those who are in need with volunteering and donations.  

22 million people lost their jobs in April and May of 2020.
 Biden and company in blue states kept workers unemployed far longer than necessary.

Your last question, please throw it to the liberal left wing in Congress. That and encouraging unauthorized immigration of South American poor and mostly ill educated and unvaccinated people. They seem to obsess giving everything to them by just issueing more Treasury Bonds.
Lest we also forget, we are in a time we are tryingto stop gereenhouse gases and we blame our citizens for it through our lifestyle choices and yet we welcome with open arms millions more to "live the American dream" while this group also adds toour green house gases we spew out daily.
Someone better start telling them the American dream is a myth for the future generations as the current politicians tell us we should not want as much stuff as we used to have and get used to it.

[pulmonarymd]

So much wrong for so few words

[Opti]

Nov 12, 2021 6:59:36 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Nov 11, 2021 22:26:50 GMT -5 ken a.k.a OMK said:

I answered your question on being better off then a year ago. Didn't plan to discuss these issues. If you aren't better off then a year ago then I suggest you figure out what changes to make. 

Millions of people impacted by the economic impact from the pandemic can be blamed on trump not responding to the virus. Obama's administration left a plan on how to cope with such a scenario and trump threw it away. Of course he says he knows more then the experts on all subjects.

How can we help people who didn't save and plan for retirement? I do help those who are in need with volunteering and donations.  

22 million people lost their jobs in April and May of 2020.
 Biden and company in blue states kept workers unemployed far longer than necessary.

Your last question, please throw it to the liberal left wing in Congress. That and encouraging unauthorized immigration of South American poor and mostly ill educated and unvaccinated people. They seem to obsess giving everything to them by just issueing more Treasury Bonds.
Lest we also forget, we are in a time we are tryingto stop gereenhouse gases and we blame our citizens for it through our lifestyle choices and yet we welcome with open arms millions more to "live the American dream" while this group also adds toour green house gases we spew out daily.
Someone better start telling them the American dream is a myth for the future generations as the current politicians tell us we should not want as much stuff as we used to have and get used to it.

I don't think Joe was even in any federal office in 2020. Its a pandemic. Now to you it might not have been a big deal, but it was pretty damn dangerous out there April and May of 2020. PPE was not easy to get, in fact I think the front desk wasn't well protected at all, but luckily our facility was far better off then some I have read about. There was not enough protection for medical facilities let alone other businesses. I'm not sure when things started improving, but we never regularly got the good gloves we used to get until perhaps mid 2021?

I disagree with your assessment, and unlike you I was employed in person and exposed to people with Covid on a daily basis. It was extremely stressful. I don't think not locking down would have helped many non essential brick and mortar businesses. It was painful enough to shop for groceries hoping to remain unexposed. I think the desires for people to shop in person for clothing and other items was very low. Businesses choose their own hours. There were several that kept pandemic hours longer than I expected, but perhaps they felt demand wasn't enough to return to regular hours until sometime in 2021.

I don't know who you are listening to, but I am unaware of anyone begging people to come to America for the American dream. 

[Opti]

Nov 12, 2021 8:17:21 GMT -5 pulmonarymd said:

So much wrong for so few words

I think part of it is life was very different in Indiana then and he was retired not working the front lines. VB, you might want to review the case curves of NY & NJ to remind yourself what was happening then.

www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/indiana/
www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/new-york/

[pulmonarymd]

It’s even simpler. Cases needlessly surged this summer. Through August, it cost 2.3 billion dollars, which did not need to be spent. But he ignores that. Instead he rants about other things. The trope about extra unemployment keeping people home is tiresome. Unemployment changed by similar amounts in states that continued the extra payments compared to those who didn’t. Industries still cannot find workers; maybe they just aren’t willing to work under the conditions offered.

He continues with open borders. He acts like Biden isn’t deporting anyone. The solution to open borders is to remove the incentive for them to come. How? Throw the book at employers who hire them. Reform immigration so we have a guest worker program. But Republicans would rather continue to rile up their base than look for solutions

[Opti]

The lockdowns were to slow the spread of Covid so it could be dealt with in a safer manner. I think too many people have no idea how deadly and scary it was to work then. Found an article on healthcare worker deaths, but not infections, in 2020.


abcnews.go.com/Health/3600-us-health-workers-died-covids-1st-year/story?id=76944085

More than 3,600 U.S. health care workers perished in the first year of the pandemic, according to “Lost on the Frontline,” a 12-month investigation by The Guardian and KHN to track such deaths.

The yearlong series of investigative reports found that many of these deaths could have been prevented. Widespread shortages of masks and other personal protective gear, a lack of covid testing, weak contact tracing, inconsistent mask guidance by politicians, missteps by employers and lax enforcement of workplace safety rules by government regulators all contributed to the increased risk faced by health care workers. Studies show that health care workers were more than three times as likely to contract covid as the general public.

More than half of those who died were younger than 60. In the general population, the median age of death from covid is 78. Yet among health care workers in the database, it is only 59.

Twice as many workers died in nursing homes as in hospitals. Only 30% of deaths were among hospital workers, and relatively few were employed by well-funded academic medical centers. The rest worked in less prestigious residential facilities, outpatient clinics, hospices and prisons, among other places.

There wasn't enough PPE for nursing homes, I don't know why VB you think there would have been any for other businesses. This lack of PPE not only affected the healthcare workers but the patients they served. 

[Opti]

Also, I don't think most people understand how much PPE was needed compared to prior to the pandemic. I don't know about hospitals or other places, but the need in nursing homes and ALFs was off the charts. I would guess the demand where I worked went up at least 15 to 20 times if not more in the height of it. The medical supply chain did not have the capability to scale to that demand, let alone quickly for an indefinite period of time. Some facilities the need was much higher, perhaps 50 times compared to pre-pandemic conditions. (I would not be surprised if my estimates are low FWIW.)

Then you have places like grocery stores who didn't need PPE before and suddenly there is a need for it. 

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Nov 11, 2021 8:13:51 GMT -5 ken a.k.a OMK said:

Now for the big question, and you will remember this one.

Are you better off now than a year ago?

Absolutely. I'm not afraid of an incompetent president doing any more damage with our allies or spreading more hate at home (ok he still is the leader of hate). Most indexes are up and my portfolio is up 25% even with taking out RMD's.

This is my situation as well.  I went into an account last week and was shocked at how much it was up.  My house, which is paid off, has also appreciated more than inflation this year.  Gas and food are minor expenses for us. We aren't in the market for a car at the moment.  DH got an out of cycle COLA in the middle of the year and can find many job openings in his field. Never seen a better job market.

So yes, we are better off than we were a year ago. 

[Value Buy]

Nov 12, 2021 14:44:42 GMT -5 @pooks said:

Nov 11, 2021 8:13:51 GMT -5 ken a.k.a OMK said:

Absolutely. I'm not afraid of an incompetent president doing any more damage with our allies or spreading more hate at home (ok he still is the leader of hate). Most indexes are up and my portfolio is up 25% even with taking out RMD's.

This is my situation as well.  I went into an account last week and was shocked at how much it was up.  My house, which is paid off, has also appreciated more than inflation this year.  Gas and food are minor expenses for us. We aren't in the market for a car at the moment.  DH got an out of cycle COLA in the middle of the year and can find many job openings in his field. Never seen a better job market.

So yes, we are better off than we were a year ago. 

I look for the stock market to be good through the end of the  year. I am thinking by end of January we have a sell off, but not sure how bad it will be. We are thinking of moving out of some stocks and funds, and looking for safe income rather than appreciation.
As far as house value, yep, way up. We have been trying to downsize the house in Indiana to something smaller, about 1,600 sq ft from 2,250 sq ft and from 2.3 acres to a city size lot. Problem is the 1,600 sq ft houses are almost 4/5th the price of our house value and the taxes are nearly the same. We want to not have a mortgage on the house we buy.
Our vehicles are ten and nine years old, so we are in the market to replace one of them. Sticker shock if you can find one.........if you do not need a new car, you do not worry about inflation. If you need one, inflation is very real. Sort of like child care. If you need it, inflation is rampant. If you do not need it, no problem......
If you pay cash for food and gasoline, you see inflation. Put it on the card, not so much.
Inflation, is very personal......

[Icelandic Woman]

Nov 11, 2021 11:01:51 GMT -5 NomoreDramaQ1015 said:

I'd like to know how Trump would have done better. 

We are in a once in a lifetime pandemic anyone who thought that it wasn't going to disrupt our lives on a history making level was and is an idiot.   I don't think any sitting president would be able to pull us out of this in six months.   

This is one of those things where only time is going to heal.  Unfortunately we live in an instant gratification society that things our presidents should be kings (especially after we had one that acted like it) and fix it with a wave of his magic hands.   

Trump turned everything he touched into shit.  I'll give him tiny amounts of credit for things like getting out of the way of vaccine development and signing funding for it.  HOWEVER when it comes to his actual managing of the country nope.  We are way better off without him and his cronies.  He was sending us down in flames in regards to the pandemic.  He had a fucking HANDBOOK that outlined exactly how to slow down/possibly prevent the situation we are in now but he threw it out the window since a black man came up with it.   Once Trump did that we were on the highway to hell.   All that is left is damage control.

He couldn't even do that.  He was too busy staging a coup on the Capitol.

Now if the Republican party would stop sucking his dick we could actually get shit done.   THEY are the ones refusing to vote for anything and following the same path they did with Obama.  Congress holds the power to change things and improve things a lot more than the president does.  Instead they are making Tik Tok videos at prisons and sending out violent badly done anime videos to get attention from their followers.

Damn Straight! POTW!!!

[Tennesseer]

Nov 11, 2021 22:05:33 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Nov 11, 2021 20:33:08 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

If Biden is responsible for the inflation, then Trump is responsible for 780,775 American deaths from the Covid virus.  The number dead to date is from valuebuy's  own thread and source of the number dead.  We all know inflation does not drop down to zero once a president's term in office ends.

Interactive map of the USA reporting Coronavirus cases

trump's grim handling and horiible medical advice to Americans killed hundreds of thousands of Americans and continues to kill thousands.  

Seems to me the needless deaths of over 700,000 Americans is far worse than inflation.  Trump should be held accountable.

For the record Biden's time in office has had more deaths than Trump's 13 months January to January. Have to remember they think the virus was here much ealier than originally thought.

Emails reveal new details of Trump White House interference in CDC Covid planning

New emails and documents released by a congressional committee investigating the Trump administration’s handling of the pandemic show the extent to which top White House officials interfered in the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s efforts to warn Americans about Covid-19.

The House Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Crisis has conducted interviews over the last several months about how former President Donald Trump and his closest confidantes, including former White House adviser Scott Atlas and son-in-law Jared Kushner, tried to steer the course of the federal response, sidestepping the interagency process.

On Friday, the committee released emails and transcripts with former senior CDC officials about the White House’s attempts to sideline the agency at critical moments at the beginning of the U.S. outbreak.

The emails and transcripts detail how in the early days of 2020 Trump and his allies in the White House blocked media briefings and interviews with CDC officials, attempted to alter public safety guidance normally cleared by the agency and instructed agency officials to destroy evidence that might be construed as political interference.

The documents further underscore how Trump appointees tried to undermine the work of scientists and career staff at the CDC to control the administration’s messaging on the spread of the virus and the dangers of transmission and infection.

Complete article here: Emails reveal new details of Trump White House interference in CDC Covid planning

[tbop77]

Nov 11, 2021 22:05:33 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

Nov 11, 2021 20:33:08 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

If Biden is responsible for the inflation, then Trump is responsible for 780,775 American deaths from the Covid virus.  The number dead to date is from valuebuy's  own thread and source of the number dead.  We all know inflation does not drop down to zero once a president's term in office ends.

Interactive map of the USA reporting Coronavirus cases

trump's grim handling and horiible medical advice to Americans killed hundreds of thousands of Americans and continues to kill thousands.  

Seems to me the needless deaths of over 700,000 Americans is far worse than inflation.  Trump should be held accountable.

For the record Biden's time in office has had more deaths than Trump's 13 months January to January. Have to remember they think the virus was here much ealier than originally thought.

For the record, if Trump had acted like he had any concern for the American public when the virus first started, we wouldn't be in the position we are now.  He knew, I repeat, KNEW, it was going to be serious.  His base would have taken heed if he had acted in the least like a leader.  He knew...and did nothing except try and divide the country.  Well, he did a good job at that and a lot of people suffered needlessly.  Your whining about Bidenflation and how he is destroying the country, way too late to cry now.  Trump already accomplished that goal. 

[thyme4change]

Nov 13, 2021 19:19:49 GMT -5 tbop77 said:

Nov 11, 2021 22:05:33 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

For the record Biden's time in office has had more deaths than Trump's 13 months January to January. Have to remember they think the virus was here much ealier than originally thought.

For the record, if Trump had acted like he had any concern for the American public when the virus first started, we wouldn't be in the position we are now.  He knew, I repeat, KNEW, it was going to be serious.  His base would have taken heed if he had acted in the least like a leader.  He knew...and did nothing except try and divide the country.  Well, he did a good job at that and a lot of people suffered needlessly.  Your whining about Bidenflation and how he is destroying the country, way too late to cry now.  Trump already accomplished that goal. 

Trump also would have won if he had handled Covid with any empathy or care at all. And the conservatives would be experts in how the international supply chain is broken and not controlled by the President of the USA (and liberals would be sure it is.)

[djAdvocate]

5.8 million jobs created under Biden so far.
how many were created under Trump again?

and yes, that is going to cause some inflation.
demand is oustripping supply by a wide margin.

yay.

[tbop77]

It's the same ole/same ole, you could almost write it down.  Republican cause an economic disaster, a DEM gets elected President and they all jump on him.  Remember 2007?  Remember how they did everything in their power to hinder the recovery?  

Yeah, we'll probably wind up with a Republican Congress and President.  Guess what it'll be?  Tax cuts for corporations and the rich.  

[thyme4change]

Nov 11, 2021 11:55:07 GMT -5 thyme4change said:

Nov 11, 2021 7:28:58 GMT -5 Value Buy said:

With the October inflation rate coming in at 6.2% month over last October. It is now known as Bidenflation.
It is even higher than that in a few sections of the country. The Atlanta district covering several states is 6.9% Another district broke 7%
The Fed wanted 2% inflation last spring and summer and said the country could handle it. They got it now.
Job well done...........
Not.
And now President Biden is telling Americans the supply change is hard to understand for Americans.
No, it is not.
Second graders with an allowance understand they cannot get as much with the money as they did two months ago
Now for the big question, and you will remember this one.
Are you better off now than a year ago?

Yep, do not have to ask four years ago either.
Wages up about four percent, inflation up 6.2%.  do the math.

Help me understand...

What things are the Biden administration doing that are contributing to the supply chain problems?

What policies would you like to see enacted to fix the supply chain?

Please make sure you connect how Biden can fix the issues in China.

Has Congress (either party, either chamber) proposed anything that we should be supporting that would improve the problems?

Value Buy

[Tennesseer]

[tbop77]

But Republican senator Tom Cotton has a completely different theory: He blames inflation on Donald Trump’s poor selection to lead the Federal Reserve.

Cotton’s view implies that Powell was wrong, and Trump was even more wrong:



Mr. Powell also maintained the Fed’s radical emergency monetary policies a decade after the end of the 2007–08 financial crisis. The Fed had thereby already exhausted the normal tools of monetary policy when the pandemic hit and was forced to use unprecedented levels of government intervention to prop up the U.S. economy. As a result, the Fed’s balance sheet is nearly $9 trillion and continues to grow by more than $100 billion a month. For perspective, the Fed’s balance sheet barely surpassed $2 trillion after the financial crisis.


www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/republican-senator-tom-cotton-admits-trump-not-biden-caused-inflation/ar-AARosJV?ocid=msedgntp

So there, let's call it Trumpflation!     

[thyme4change]

Dec 4, 2021 7:50:02 GMT -5 tbop77 said:

But Republican senator Tom Cotton has a completely different theory: He blames inflation on Donald Trump’s poor selection to lead the Federal Reserve.

Cotton’s view implies that Powell was wrong, and Trump was even more wrong:



Mr. Powell also maintained the Fed’s radical emergency monetary policies a decade after the end of the 2007–08 financial crisis. The Fed had thereby already exhausted the normal tools of monetary policy when the pandemic hit and was forced to use unprecedented levels of government intervention to prop up the U.S. economy. As a result, the Fed’s balance sheet is nearly $9 trillion and continues to grow by more than $100 billion a month. For perspective, the Fed’s balance sheet barely surpassed $2 trillion after the financial crisis.


www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/republican-senator-tom-cotton-admits-trump-not-biden-caused-inflation/ar-AARosJV?ocid=msedgntp

So there, let's call it Trumpflation!     

He will be branded a RINO and thrown out of the party at any minute.

[pulmonarymd]

That can’t be possible. Only the best people work for trump

[Tennesseer]

And trump never fired any of his well vetted picks. Never.

[kadee79]

We are lower middle class to upper low class as far as income!  Yes, we are better off this year than last.  I made some investments that turned out to be great...just plain dumb luck on my part!

It's not nearly as much Biden's fault as it is the GOP in Congress...starting with Mitch & ending with Manchin...yes, Manchin in more GOP than he is Democrat!