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Post by happyhoix on Sept 3, 2021 7:25:40 GMT -5
I think the Dems will push two big themes - all the state government officials who ignored or actively lied about Covid and the death rates, and the potential for the radical right SC to overthrow Roe vs Wade. (Polls consistently show 90% of voters of all political persuasion accepting 1st trimester abortions).
I think the gen x and millennial generations are waking up to the thought that something they thought was a woman’s right might be taken away, and that will motivate a lot of younger voters.
Republicans I think, urged on by Trump living in the land of Whine, will go full blast on corrupt voting, and the necessity of throwing up road blocks for certain types of voters.
Am I wrong? Partly wrong? A little right? Who has the upper hand so far? Where I live, the GOP remains king.
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Post by grumpyhermit on Sept 3, 2021 7:37:16 GMT -5
I don't think you are wrong - but I'm also not sure it's going to have the impact they think it will. Especially the SCOTUS argument. I know Twitter is far from the best barometer for national trends on a topic, but in my liberal corner people are fed up with the Dems doing the absolute least about anything.
Great, yes, thank you we know the Texas SB8 decision is awful, but what are you going to DO about it. If you aren't even going to talk about possible actual solutions, and just get on your soap box to publicly scold the decision and hand wring, when we ALL knew this is where this was going to go if they confirmed Trumps picks, I don't have much use for it. Especially if you are going to continue to try to "work with" the Republicans to achieve some fictional bi-partisan ideal. It's just words to rile the base and get donations and I'm kind of over all of it.
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Post by Bob Ross on Sept 3, 2021 8:32:04 GMT -5
Rumor has it that Trump may announce his 2024 candidacy soon, if only to give himself a narrative against his upcoming legal woes and to help raise money.
If that happens, it will be a major blow to the GQP, as every candidate will need to decide to pledge fealty to him in the run up to '22, which would likely hurt them no matter what they decide.
It would also energize the Dem's base like never before, and would be the #1 theme for them to push.
Luckily, Trump doesn't care one bit about the GQP, and would throw them under the bus if it helps his own cause.
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Post by grumpyhermit on Sept 3, 2021 8:39:33 GMT -5
Unfortunately, I have lost what little faith I once may have had in my fellow Americans and, like in 2016, I could see him actually winning even if he was running as a joke.
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Post by happyhoix on Sept 3, 2021 8:46:37 GMT -5
Rumor has it that Trump may announce his 2024 candidacy soon, if only to give himself a narrative against his upcoming legal woes and to help raise money. If that happens, it will be a major blow to the GQP, as every candidate will need to decide to pledge fealty to him in the run up to '22, which would likely hurt them no matter what they decide. It would also energize the Dem's base like never before, and would be the #1 theme for them to push. Luckily, Trump doesn't care one bit about the GQP, and would throw them under the bus if it helps his own cause. Have you listened to one of his recent rallies ? OMG such a self pitying whine. About stupid shit. ‘They made a big deal about my walking slowly down a ramp but the media didn’t say one word about Biden tripping up some stairs - so horribly unfair, the most unfair thing ever in the universe, so disgraceful. ‘ If my kid went on such an egocentric rant we’d have words. If Trump does run again, I hope he runs on the ‘people were mean to me’ platform because I can’t be the only one who wants to punch him when he does that.
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Post by Bob Ross on Sept 3, 2021 9:03:17 GMT -5
Rumor has it that Trump may announce his 2024 candidacy soon, if only to give himself a narrative against his upcoming legal woes and to help raise money. If that happens, it will be a major blow to the GQP, as every candidate will need to decide to pledge fealty to him in the run up to '22, which would likely hurt them no matter what they decide. It would also energize the Dem's base like never before, and would be the #1 theme for them to push. Luckily, Trump doesn't care one bit about the GQP, and would throw them under the bus if it helps his own cause. Have you listened to one of his recent rallies ? OMG such a self pitying whine. About stupid shit. ‘They made a big deal about my walking slowly down a ramp but the media didn’t say one word about Biden tripping up some stairs - so horribly unfair, the most unfair thing ever in the universe, so disgraceful. ‘ If my kid went on such an egocentric rant we’d have words. If Trump does run again, I hope he runs on the ‘people were mean to me’ platform because I can’t be the only one who wants to punch him when he does that. Yeah, I watch them all. My fav was when he told the MAGA to get the vaccine, and they booed him. The monster has turned on it's master.
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Post by Opti on Sept 3, 2021 9:17:50 GMT -5
Have you listened to one of his recent rallies ? OMG such a self pitying whine. About stupid shit. ‘They made a big deal about my walking slowly down a ramp but the media didn’t say one word about Biden tripping up some stairs - so horribly unfair, the most unfair thing ever in the universe, so disgraceful. ‘ If my kid went on such an egocentric rant we’d have words. If Trump does run again, I hope he runs on the ‘people were mean to me’ platform because I can’t be the only one who wants to punch him when he does that. Yeah, I watch them all. My fav was when he told the MAGA to get the vaccine, and they booed him. The monster has turned on it's master.I disagree. They booed the idea of now getting the vaccine after he trained them not to. It wasn't even that loud to my ears. I am surprised that people thought he could say get the vaccine and there wouldn't be pushback. If they had turned on him they would have left. But they didn't. At least one interviewee believed he was asked to say that, and took no points away from him for having done so. I think people want to believe his crowd has left him, but its not true.
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Post by Tennesseer on Sept 3, 2021 11:09:12 GMT -5
Long article but a good read. The Time for Democrats to Go Nuclear Was YesterdayIn the U.S., constitutional law guarantees pregnant people the right to have an abortion without “interference from the state.” Judicial precedent also empowers Americans to preempt any state law that flagrantly violates their constitutional rights: Even before an illicit statute takes effect, individuals can seek a court order barring state officers from enforcing it. he pro-life movement abhors these legal niceties. In recent years, red states have routinely enacted de facto repeals of Roe v. Wade, only to see their unconstitutional laws nipped in the bud. Of course, conservatives did not respond to these setbacks by revising their agenda to better fit the demands of law and procedure. Rather, they used every tool at their disposal — including unprecedented violations of Senate convention — to assemble an anti-abortion Supreme Court majority. Meanwhile, in Texas, Republicans devised a cockamamie scheme for nullifying abortion rights immediately — with just a small favor from their friends on the high court. The Texas GOP passed a law that effectively bans abortions after the sixth week of pregnancy — before many women even realize they are pregnant — but outsourced enforcement of this ban to private citizens. Under the law, known as SB 8, “any person, other than an officer or employee of a state or local governmental entity in this state,” can sue anyone who “knowingly engages in conduct that aids or abets the performance or inducement of an abortion” after the sixth week of pregnancy. In other words, any doctor, clinic staff member, nonprofit, or even taxi driver who consciously helps someone end their pregnancy could be legally liable. The law entitles plaintiffs who win such suits to at least $10,000 from the defendant. This is an unusual way to enforce a law. It turns every private citizen in the state of Texas into a potential hybrid of spy and bounty hunter. It threatens to besiege the state’s court system with lawsuits. But it also offers the judiciary a pretext for sitting on its hands as a blatantly unconstitutional law is implemented. Precedent empowers individuals to block the enforcement of unconstitutional laws by suing the state officer tasked with enforcing those measures. In the case of SB 8, however, no such state officer exists. So there is none to sue. This pretext is absurd. As Vox’s Ian Millhiser writes, the tactic “could be used to undermine virtually any constitutional right. Imagine, for example, that New York passed an SB 8–style law allowing private individuals to bring lawsuits seeking a $10,000 bounty against anyone who owns a gun.” Link to complete article here: The Time for Democrats to Go Nuclear Was Yesterday
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Post by hurley1980 on Sept 3, 2021 12:00:51 GMT -5
The younger, progressive generations are pissed the hell off, and approaching voting age. They are waiting for the crusty old white men to die off so they can step into leadership positions and fix all the crap they destroyed!
So many people make fun of millennials and gen Z, but at this point, they are kind of our only hope for getting this country/world back on track.
They care about universal health care, affordable education, and climate change. Things that directly impact all of us. I am excited to see what the Greta Thunbergs of the world will do.
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 3, 2021 12:43:23 GMT -5
The younger, progressive generations are pissed the hell off, and approaching voting age. They are waiting for the crusty old white men to die off so they can step into leadership positions and fix all the crap they destroyed! So many people make fun of millennials and gen Z, but at this point, they are kind of our only hope for getting this country/world back on track. They care about universal health care, affordable education, and climate change. Things that directly impact all of us. I am excited to see what the Greta Thunbergs of the world will do. I am looking at the anti-vax loons- the ones who died. they are mostly 50-70 white men. they are not that old, unfortunately.
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Post by kadee79 on Sept 3, 2021 17:38:36 GMT -5
My son, an anti-vaxxer turned 54 yesterday. And his son also won't get the shot cause he doesn't know what the long term effects of it could be on him. Never mind that he doesn't know the long term effects of much of the GMO'd foods he eats or anything else he does to his body!...and he is only 22!
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 3, 2021 20:28:31 GMT -5
My son, an anti-vaxxer turned 54 yesterday. And his son also won't get the shot cause he doesn't know what the long term effects of it could be on him. Never mind that he doesn't know the long term effects of much of the GMO'd foods he eats or anything else he does to his body!...and he is only 22! not that it is any of my damned business, but is your son white? you can ignore this question if you wish. it really is none of my business.
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Post by kadee79 on Sept 5, 2021 14:23:20 GMT -5
Do I look white in my avatar? Yes, he is white...and his pathetic biological father never once admitted that he had a son...and I took him to court to pay my medical expenses & attorney fees...which the judge said he had to do. Since I had moved to Ill. from Ca., I didn't go back to court for child support. Last I heard, when he had been married to his wife for 25 yrs., he still hadn't told her he had a biological son. I told his mother or she would never have known. He now lives within a few miles of his biological father...that guy doesn't know that but son knows.
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 5, 2021 14:28:48 GMT -5
Do I look white in my avatar? Yes, he is white...and his pathetic biological father never once admitted that he had a son...and I took him to court to pay my medical expenses & attorney fees...which the judge said he had to do. Since I had moved to Ill. from Ca., I didn't go back to court for child support. Last I heard, when he had been married to his wife for 25 yrs., he still hadn't told her he had a biological son. I told his mother or she would never have known. He now lives within a few miles of his biological father...that guy doesn't know that but son knows. I try to not make assumptions. I am sorry about your trials and tribulations, kd. edit: no further questions.
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So Mrs Trump may refuse to participate should her DH decide to run in 2024. www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/melania-trump-is-telling-friends-she-has-no-interest-in-being-first-lady-again-despite-her-husband-s-2024-teases-report-says/ar-AAO8iADShe won’t stump on the campaign trail for him, won’t stand behind him and beam approvingly. Can’t say I blame her. She never signed up to be a political wife, and she doesn’t have the skills or desire to be a political wife. She expected to be asked to pose for glamor photos for the top fashion magazines, and they didn’t ask - not because they didn’t want her on their cover, but because being on the cover always goes with granting an interview, and Melania did not want to grant interviews. I don’t blame her for that, either - I’m only middling fluent in a second language, and speak it reluctantly for business reasons because I know I make a lot of mistakes. And I’m only talking business, imagine trying to navigate the political landscape using a second language. No thanks. I wonder, though, how the Trump team will handle this. Ignore the fact that she stays at one of their resort homes all the time? Allow Ivanka to fill in as first daughter during the formal dinners and on the campaign trail? Pretend Melania has a lingering disease that makes her unable to travel or speak in public? Hopefully, I will never know, because Trump won’t run again in 2024. Or he’ll run and get quickly beaten by some other candidate - pretty much any other candidate, except for another Trump, would be better.
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Post by billisonboard on Sept 6, 2021 17:42:37 GMT -5
The whole concept of a "first spouse" will be challenged at some point. Rightfully so in my mind. I wonder how it will "play in Peoria"?
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 6, 2021 17:48:40 GMT -5
Yeah, I watch them all. My fav was when he told the MAGA to get the vaccine, and they booed him. The monster has turned on it's master.I disagree. They booed the idea of now getting the vaccine after he trained them not to. It wasn't even that loud to my ears. I am surprised that people thought he could say get the vaccine and there wouldn't be pushback. If they had turned on him they would have left. But they didn't. At least one interviewee believed he was asked to say that, and took no points away from him for having done so. I think people want to believe his crowd has left him, but its not true. left to where, exactly? who will fulfill the Great White Hope promise for a nation free of brown people and sassy women? a nation of Stepford Wives and Jim Crow? where is the candidate that will rouse their sense of "patriotism" for a bygone time that should never have existed and will probably never come again?
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 6, 2021 17:53:54 GMT -5
So Mrs Trump may refuse to participate should her DH decide to run in 2024. www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/melania-trump-is-telling-friends-she-has-no-interest-in-being-first-lady-again-despite-her-husband-s-2024-teases-report-says/ar-AAO8iADShe won’t stump on the campaign trail for him, won’t stand behind him and beam approvingly. Can’t say I blame her. She never signed up to be a political wife, and she doesn’t have the skills or desire to be a political wife. She expected to be asked to pose for glamor photos for the top fashion magazines, and they didn’t ask - not because they didn’t want her on their cover, but because being on the cover always goes with granting an interview, and Melania did not want to grant interviews. I don’t blame her for that, either - I’m only middling fluent in a second language, and speak it reluctantly for business reasons because I know I make a lot of mistakes. And I’m only talking business, imagine trying to navigate the political landscape using a second language. No thanks. I wonder, though, how the Trump team will handle this. Ignore the fact that she stays at one of their resort homes all the time? Allow Ivanka to fill in as first daughter during the formal dinners and on the campaign trail? Pretend Melania has a lingering disease that makes her unable to travel or speak in public? Hopefully, I will never know, because Trump won’t run again in 2024. Or he’ll run and get quickly beaten by some other candidate - pretty much any other candidate, except for another Trump, would be better. who though? who would arouse the enthusiasm of a GOP that is motivated to go to a mask protest? and will anyone other than Trump have the kind of support he does?
from where I sit, he is a shoo in for running against Biden.
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Post by billisonboard on Sept 6, 2021 18:08:18 GMT -5
So Mrs Trump may refuse to participate should her DH decide to run in 2024. www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/melania-trump-is-telling-friends-she-has-no-interest-in-being-first-lady-again-despite-her-husband-s-2024-teases-report-says/ar-AAO8iADShe won’t stump on the campaign trail for him, won’t stand behind him and beam approvingly. Can’t say I blame her. She never signed up to be a political wife, and she doesn’t have the skills or desire to be a political wife. She expected to be asked to pose for glamor photos for the top fashion magazines, and they didn’t ask - not because they didn’t want her on their cover, but because being on the cover always goes with granting an interview, and Melania did not want to grant interviews. I don’t blame her for that, either - I’m only middling fluent in a second language, and speak it reluctantly for business reasons because I know I make a lot of mistakes. And I’m only talking business, imagine trying to navigate the political landscape using a second language. No thanks. I wonder, though, how the Trump team will handle this. Ignore the fact that she stays at one of their resort homes all the time? Allow Ivanka to fill in as first daughter during the formal dinners and on the campaign trail? Pretend Melania has a lingering disease that makes her unable to travel or speak in public? Hopefully, I will never know, because Trump won’t run again in 2024. Or he’ll run and get quickly beaten by some other candidate - pretty much any other candidate, except for another Trump, would be better. who though? who would arouse the enthusiasm of a GOP that is motivated to go to a mask protest? and will anyone other than Trump have the kind of support he does?
from where I sit, he is a shoo in for running against Biden.
I am not positive that Biden will run but I agree the GOP nomination is Trump's if he wants it.
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Post by happyhoix on Sept 6, 2021 18:45:20 GMT -5
So Mrs Trump may refuse to participate should her DH decide to run in 2024. www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/melania-trump-is-telling-friends-she-has-no-interest-in-being-first-lady-again-despite-her-husband-s-2024-teases-report-says/ar-AAO8iADShe won’t stump on the campaign trail for him, won’t stand behind him and beam approvingly. Can’t say I blame her. She never signed up to be a political wife, and she doesn’t have the skills or desire to be a political wife. She expected to be asked to pose for glamor photos for the top fashion magazines, and they didn’t ask - not because they didn’t want her on their cover, but because being on the cover always goes with granting an interview, and Melania did not want to grant interviews. I don’t blame her for that, either - I’m only middling fluent in a second language, and speak it reluctantly for business reasons because I know I make a lot of mistakes. And I’m only talking business, imagine trying to navigate the political landscape using a second language. No thanks. I wonder, though, how the Trump team will handle this. Ignore the fact that she stays at one of their resort homes all the time? Allow Ivanka to fill in as first daughter during the formal dinners and on the campaign trail? Pretend Melania has a lingering disease that makes her unable to travel or speak in public? Hopefully, I will never know, because Trump won’t run again in 2024. Or he’ll run and get quickly beaten by some other candidate - pretty much any other candidate, except for another Trump, would be better. who though? who would arouse the enthusiasm of a GOP that is motivated to go to a mask protest? and will anyone other than Trump have the kind of support he does?
from where I sit, he is a shoo in for running against Biden.
A lot can happen in two years, especially when we have so many DAs (and even Scotland) investigating all the various grifts this family and their pals engaged in over four short years in charge. I think Trump will still want to run, but if his wife won’t participate, and his kids beg him not to, and especially if he can’t voice a coherent platform other than his constant whine about how mean everyone is to him, I think there would be enough former Trump supporters willing to go with a younger , less corrupt version of a conservative savior. Cotton, maybe. Or Haley.
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 6, 2021 18:57:54 GMT -5
you are way further than I am from thinking he will run. I am not going to question it, tho. I hope you are right.
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 6, 2021 23:54:00 GMT -5
by the way:
the reason he was not impeached is that Republicans are thinking the same thing.
think about it.
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Post by Value Buy on Sept 7, 2021 14:24:08 GMT -5
Rumor has it that Trump may announce his 2024 candidacy soon, if only to give himself a narrative against his upcoming legal woes and to help raise money. If that happens, it will be a major blow to the GQP, as every candidate will need to decide to pledge fealty to him in the run up to '22, which would likely hurt them no matter what they decide. It would also energize the Dem's base like never before, and would be the #1 theme for them to push. Luckily, Trump doesn't care one bit about the GQP, and would throw them under the bus if it helps his own cause. Have you listened to one of his recent rallies ? OMG such a self pitying whine. About stupid shit. ‘They made a big deal about my walking slowly down a ramp but the media didn’t say one word about Biden tripping up some stairs - so horribly unfair, the most unfair thing ever in the universe, so disgraceful. ‘ If my kid went on such an egocentric rant we’d have words. If Trump does run again, I hope he runs on the ‘people were mean to me’ platform because I can’t be the only one who wants to punch him when he does that. I know how you feel about him, but my question is why do you bother tuning in? It is not like he is going to turn over a new leaf that you could change your mind about him........I sort of feel like that about Biden....tuned the idiot out........and that is hard because all networks cover him 24/7 including Fox........unlike Biden, you almost have to do some searching to find Trump being covered, and I assume you are not watching Fox
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 7, 2021 14:45:25 GMT -5
Have you listened to one of his recent rallies ? OMG such a self pitying whine. About stupid shit. ‘They made a big deal about my walking slowly down a ramp but the media didn’t say one word about Biden tripping up some stairs - so horribly unfair, the most unfair thing ever in the universe, so disgraceful. ‘ If my kid went on such an egocentric rant we’d have words. If Trump does run again, I hope he runs on the ‘people were mean to me’ platform because I can’t be the only one who wants to punch him when he does that. I know how you feel about him, but my question is why do you bother tuning in? It is not like he is going to turn over a new leaf that you could change your mind about him........I sort of feel like that about Biden....tuned the idiot out........and that is hard because all networks cover him 24/7 including Fox........unlike Biden, you almost have to do some searching to find Trump being covered, and I assume you are not watching Fox my girlfriend asks me this question all the time. here is my answer:
Trump is history. it is bad history, but I guarantee you that if we are lucky enough to outlive it, our progeny and their progeny will ask about it. it is better to witness it, to soak in all of the terribleness of it, than to blithely ignore it as if it were meaningless, because clearly it is NOT.
this is a defining moment for our nation. it is as big a deal as the Civil Rights Era or the post-Civil-War reconstruction. to ignore it is to miss out on super important history, and to deprive ourselves of our role as witnesses to it.
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Post by Value Buy on Sept 7, 2021 22:41:18 GMT -5
I know how you feel about him, but my question is why do you bother tuning in? It is not like he is going to turn over a new leaf that you could change your mind about him........I sort of feel like that about Biden....tuned the idiot out........and that is hard because all networks cover him 24/7 including Fox........unlike Biden, you almost have to do some searching to find Trump being covered, and I assume you are not watching Fox my girlfriend asks me this question all the time. here is my answer:
Trump is history. it is bad history, but I guarantee you that if we are lucky enough to outlive it, our progeny and their progeny will ask about it. it is better to witness it, to soak in all of the terribleness of it, than to blithely ignore it as if it were meaningless, because clearly it is NOT.
this is a defining moment for our nation. it is as big a deal as the Civil Rights Era or the post-Civil-War reconstruction. to ignore it is to miss out on super important history, and to deprive ourselves of our role as witnesses to it.
SO.....Trump will not win in 2024? You are that positive? Color me in at 75% possible at this point, especially if Biden is alive and wants to run for four more years. Then again what are the real possibilities either of them will be around in 2024.......
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 7, 2021 22:48:31 GMT -5
my girlfriend asks me this question all the time. here is my answer:
Trump is history. it is bad history, but I guarantee you that if we are lucky enough to outlive it, our progeny and their progeny will ask about it. it is better to witness it, to soak in all of the terribleness of it, than to blithely ignore it as if it were meaningless, because clearly it is NOT.
this is a defining moment for our nation. it is as big a deal as the Civil Rights Era or the post-Civil-War reconstruction. to ignore it is to miss out on super important history, and to deprive ourselves of our role as witnesses to it.
SO..... Trump will not win in 2024? You are that positive? Color me in at 75% possible at this point, especially if Biden is alive and wants to run for four more years. Then again what are the real possibilities either of them will be around in 2024....... i never said that.
what i said is that Trump is a unique threat to our Republic, and that it is very important that we watch him carefully and observe what he does. that way, if we survive him, we can explain this time to our grandkids. we owe it to them to bear witness to this horror, imo. it is no fun, but few things that have to be survived are.
did you think i meant "past" when i said "history"? that is not how i was using it, and i think that is quite clear, if you have read my posts. what i am talking about is WHY we should be paying attention to him. my girlfriend thinks we should ignore him. he is part of US history, and will continue to be for some unknown time into the future.
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Post by Value Buy on Sept 7, 2021 22:54:27 GMT -5
SO..... Trump will not win in 2024? You are that positive? Color me in at 75% possible at this point, especially if Biden is alive and wants to run for four more years. Then again what are the real possibilities either of them will be around in 2024....... i never said that.
what i said is that Trump is a unique threat to our Republic, and that it is very important that we watch him carefully and observe what he does. that way, if we survive him, we can explain this time to our grandkids. we owe it to them to bear witness to this horror, imo. it is no fun, but few things that have to be survived are.
did you think i meant "past" when i said "history". that is not how i was using it, and i think that is quite clear, if you have read my posts. what i am talking about is WHY we should be paying attention to him. my girlfriend thinks we should ignore him. he is part of US history, and will continue to be for some unknown time into the future.
No, that was not quite clear. If he is history, he has no future. Biden refuses to let him go into the dustbin of history, does he?
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 7, 2021 23:05:06 GMT -5
i never said that.
what i said is that Trump is a unique threat to our Republic, and that it is very important that we watch him carefully and observe what he does. that way, if we survive him, we can explain this time to our grandkids. we owe it to them to bear witness to this horror, imo. it is no fun, but few things that have to be survived are.
did you think i meant "past" when i said "history". that is not how i was using it, and i think that is quite clear, if you have read my posts. what i am talking about is WHY we should be paying attention to him. my girlfriend thinks we should ignore him. he is part of US history, and will continue to be for some unknown time into the future.
No, that was not quite clear. If he is history, he has no future. Biden refuses to let him go into the dustbin of history, does he? no, again- you are using "history" in a way i did NOT intend.
i was using it as a synonym for IMPORTANT. the MeToo movement is history. BLM is history. Q-Anon is history. Kevin McCarthy is history. it is IMPORTANT to pay attention to those things. that is what i meant, VB.
is THAT clear?
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Post by billisonboard on Sept 7, 2021 23:25:08 GMT -5
i never said that.
what i said is that Trump is a unique threat to our Republic, and that it is very important that we watch him carefully and observe what he does. that way, if we survive him, we can explain this time to our grandkids. we owe it to them to bear witness to this horror, imo. it is no fun, but few things that have to be survived are.
did you think i meant "past" when i said "history". that is not how i was using it, and i think that is quite clear, if you have read my posts. what i am talking about is WHY we should be paying attention to him. my girlfriend thinks we should ignore him. he is part of US history, and will continue to be for some unknown time into the future.
No, that was not quite clear. If he is history, he has no future. Biden refuses to let him go into the dustbin of history, does he? I was seeing "history" contrasted with "transitory". Granted any President is included in a listing of Presidents, but there are ones that are truly remembered, are "history". I think the idea is that Donald J. Trump will not be a Rutherford B. Hayes.
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