chiver78
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Post by chiver78 on Sept 30, 2021 13:32:10 GMT -5
I've had it and I got vaccinated. Why wouldn't I? I've had the flu and still get the flu shot every year. Immunity is cummulative the more I am exposed the "smarter" my immune system becomes and the faster it responds to the next event. Given right now COVID is mutating like bunnies in a mating frenzy having my immune system get another training round in benefits me. I kinda like not being dead and it has been proven the vaccines will reduce my risk of that by 90+% The flu shot is only around 60% effective yet no one questions getting one every year. So yeah I'm getting it because I don't know what level of response I'm going to get from old fashioned exposure. It may not be like chicken pox where I am one and done. This could, and likely will be, like the flu it doesn't matter how many times I've had it I could still end up dying from a new variant popping up on the scene. So I get the shot to increase my odds of living. wvu and I, and many others who *can't* have a flu shot thank you for continuing to get yours. there's a lot of people that can't get any of the COVID vaxxes, either. hell, I wasn't sure I'd be able to until a good long conversation with my doctor about the pair of mRNA flavors available. even then, we decided for me to get Moderna b/c Pfizer had (and still does, last I was aware) a caution for those with shellfish allergies.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Oct 1, 2021 10:40:06 GMT -5
I know someone who won't get vaccinated because they had Covid, so according to them, they don't need to. Ugh. Are you saying they do not have some immunity built into their system? Not true. Some medical people say they have stringer immunity than from the vaccine. Immunity whether natural from having covid, or from having the shot, does not mean you will not catch a variant. The infectiion is usually a mild case if reinfected. Some medical professionals are not sure you should receive a shot if you have recovered from covid. My 24 year old niece has gotten sick from covid twice. Once last spring, at the beginning of the pandemic. The second time about a year later, right before she became eligible to be vaccinated. She was ill both times. So natural immunity is no guarantee of anything. She is now vaccinated.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Oct 1, 2021 10:48:58 GMT -5
I've had it and I got vaccinated. Why wouldn't I? I've had the flu and still get the flu shot every year. Immunity is cummulative the more I am exposed the "smarter" my immune system becomes and the faster it responds to the next event. Given right now COVID is mutating like bunnies in a mating frenzy having my immune system get another training round in benefits me. I kinda like not being dead and it has been proven the vaccines will reduce my risk of that by 90+% The flu shot is only around 60% effective yet no one questions getting one every year. So yeah I'm getting it because I don't know what level of response I'm going to get from old fashioned exposure. It may not be like chicken pox where I am one and done. This could, and likely will be, like the flu it doesn't matter how many times I've had it I could still end up dying from a new variant popping up on the scene. So I get the shot to increase my odds of living. wvu and I, and many others who *can't* have a flu shot thank you for continuing to get yours. there's a lot of people that can't get any of the COVID vaxxes, either. hell, I wasn't sure I'd be able to until a good long conversation with my doctor about the pair of mRNA flavors available. even then, we decided for me to get Moderna b/c Pfizer had (and still does, last I was aware) a caution for those with shellfish allergies. I get a flu shot yearly, and have done so since my employer offered it at work not long after the paper came out showing how much money and employer can save by having employees vaccinated for flu. Then it became a requirement for employment (sound familiar?). I have never had the flu after getting vaccinated. The closest I think I came was I started feeling crappy one afternoon at work. Body aches, fever, general malaise. I was positive I was going to be struck down, despite being vaccinated. I finished up what I needed to do in the lab, gathered any paperwork that I could do at home if I felt up to it. Told my boss I was feeling like crap, thought I might be getting the flu so don't expect me tomorrow and went home - stopping at my favorite Chinese restaurant to stock up on won ton soup and the grocery store for cold remedies, juice and whatever else I might need while sick. I went home, crawled onto the sofa with a cup of tea and vegged for the evening, then crawled into bed feeling even crappier. I forgot to unset my alarm, so it went off normally. Only thing was - I felt perfectly fine. No aches, no malaise, no nothing......it may as well been another day. I got up and went to work. Closest I figure, I caught the flu but a strain that wasn't in the most current vaccine. It took my immune system a bit of time to kick into gear, but it did recognize it and did what it was supposed to do. I can live with that.
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Post by teen persuasion on Oct 1, 2021 20:26:21 GMT -5
Are you saying they do not have some immunity built into their system? Not true. Some medical people say they have stringer immunity than from the vaccine. Immunity whether natural from having covid, or from having the shot, does not mean you will not catch a variant. The infectiion is usually a mild case if reinfected. Some medical professionals are not sure you should receive a shot if you have recovered from covid. My 24 year old niece has gotten sick from covid twice. Once last spring, at the beginning of the pandemic. The second time about a year later, right before she became eligible to be vaccinated. She was ill both times. So natural immunity is no guarantee of anything. She is now vaccinated. Similar story for one guy I know, a patron at my library. He had Covid once early on, then again in the winter before vaccines were available. He was miserable both times. He got vaccinated, didn't want to experience it again, especially with delta even more contagious.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Oct 7, 2021 10:25:45 GMT -5
Well here is some evidence that the idea you just catch COVID the natural way and you're done it isn't the end all be all. Having had it AND getting vaccinated afterward are the better bet. www.cnn.com/2021/10/06/health/pfizer-vaccine-waning-immunity/index.htmlThe study also indicated that immunity for people who get vaccinated after natural Covid-19 infection lasts longer. It's especially strong for people who recovered from infection and then got vaccinated, also. "Overall, the accumulating evidence from our study and others shows that long-term humoral response and vaccine effectiveness in previously infected persons were superior to that in recipients of two doses of vaccine," they wrote.
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