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Post by thyme4change on Sept 3, 2021 16:28:00 GMT -5
DD2 found herself pregnant and chose to keep the baby. She had to have an emergency c-section. She wanted to have her tubes tied while she was open and they refused. At 31 they deemed her too young. Turns out she was at a Christian based hospital. She was pissed. I'm 41, childfree by choice, and I haven't even tried to get my tubes tied because I know how nearly impossible it is for women of child bearing age who haven't had any children yet, to get approved. Also, I don't have a man to sign off for me. No brothers, cousins, uncles, grandpas, and my dad and I have spoken in 25 years. My only remaining family is my mom and her bffs who I call aunts. I get the depo shot every 3 months, because I had bad experiences with IUDs, but basically I'm just celibate by choice right now (thanks covid). At 41, I suspect you would have an easier time getting a dr to agree than a 20 year old. I kinda get why doctors don't want to permanently alter someone so young. I know there are people who had it all together at 20 and haven't changed their minds - but they are a minority. I think there are also a growing number of doctors who let women decide. If you announce you are single, a good doctor would go ahead and do the surgery.
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Post by Cheesy FL-Vol on Sept 3, 2021 17:11:20 GMT -5
DD2 found herself pregnant and chose to keep the baby. She had to have an emergency c-section. She wanted to have her tubes tied while she was open and they refused. At 31 they deemed her too young. Turns out she was at a Christian based hospital. She was pissed. I would have been pissed to. And just guessing here, but this was probably in the last 30 years. It is ridiculous that anyone but a woman herself can determine whether or not they are "ready" for such a procedure. This was just 2 years ago.
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Post by thyme4change on Sept 3, 2021 17:57:36 GMT -5
There are 2 hospitals close to my house- I went to the one that wasn't Catholic, on purpose.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2021 17:59:28 GMT -5
DD2 found herself pregnant and chose to keep the baby. She had to have an emergency c-section. She wanted to have her tubes tied while she was open and they refused. At 31 they deemed her too young. Turns out she was at a Christian based hospital. She was pissed. I'm 41, childfree by choice, and I haven't even tried to get my tubes tied because I know how nearly impossible it is for women of child bearing age who haven't had any children yet, to get approved. Also, I don't have a man to sign off for me. No brothers, cousins, uncles, grandpas, and my dad and I have spoken in 25 years. My only remaining family is my mom and her bffs who I call aunts. I get the depo shot every 3 months, because I had bad experiences with IUDs, but basically I'm just celibate by choice right now (thanks covid). I went from not wanting kids, to having 2. I welcomed my babies into the world and never regretted having them, but I didn’t see me being able to take care of more than 2, mentally or financially. When I was pregnant with my 2nd I wanted to leave the hospital after giving birth, with my tubes tied. My Doctor would not even discuss it with me. Birth control pills made me sick, every kind I’d tried up until that point. I didn’t take them like I was supposed to because of that, which was how I ended up pregnant. But 2 children was my limit. After my son was born, I tried with 2 other Doctors. I was too young. I was also married and he was good with me getting my tubes tied, and said so, but that didn’t matter either. I never changed my mind and wanted more children. I know Doctors are smart and all, but I still feel some type of way about how they dismissed me saying I was absolutely sure I didn’t want anymore children.
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Post by Tennesseer on Sept 3, 2021 19:03:47 GMT -5
The hypocrisy is deafening.
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Post by grumpyhermit on Sept 3, 2021 19:09:54 GMT -5
I'm 41, childfree by choice, and I haven't even tried to get my tubes tied because I know how nearly impossible it is for women of child bearing age who haven't had any children yet, to get approved. Also, I don't have a man to sign off for me. No brothers, cousins, uncles, grandpas, and my dad and I have spoken in 25 years. My only remaining family is my mom and her bffs who I call aunts. I get the depo shot every 3 months, because I had bad experiences with IUDs, but basically I'm just celibate by choice right now (thanks covid). At 41, I suspect you would have an easier time getting a dr to agree than a 20 year old. I kinda get why doctors don't want to permanently alter someone so young. I know there are people who had it all together at 20 and haven't changed their minds - but they are a minority. I think there are also a growing number of doctors who let women decide. If you announce you are single, a good doctor would go ahead and do the surgery. How magnanimous of them! It's almost like women can be trusted to make their own medical decisions. A good doctor would do it regardless. Married or not, a women shouldn't have to clear her reproductive decisions with anyone.
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Post by Tennesseer on Sept 4, 2021 10:26:50 GMT -5
Shrek & Ted Cruz Reported For Texas Abortion Violations On Anonymous Anti-Abortion Whistleblower Site "Ted Cruz had a recreational abortion in Cut and Shoot Texas, and he invited me to his Fetus Deletus Party."
Redditors submitted reports against the state of Texas, for having highways that allow people to travel to their procedure. Link to article and fake reports here: link
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 4, 2021 11:00:46 GMT -5
it would be fun to inundate that hotline with the names of legislators.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2021 14:45:53 GMT -5
Yep - gen X is already on it, flooding the Texas prolife whistle blower site with Shrek memes. And furry porn. What started out as a nice dystopian doxing site is already unusable. You would think Trump fans would have remembered what the KPop fans did to Trumps Tulsa rally last year. The young people are on it, and I love it! I guess they tend to “speak” and make their voices be heard differently than the ways we are use to, by using the Internet, and I’m not mad at them about it.
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Post by happyhoix on Sept 5, 2021 11:02:53 GMT -5
There was a TX senator on one of the morning shows this AM that said under this new law, a young teen could be raped, and if her mom took her to a clinic (even if she ISN’T pregnant) the rapist could report the mom to the TX squealer line and attempt to sue her for 10,000. Mom would then have to prove she did NOT assist in obtaining an abortion for her daughter - the VICTIM - and if she couldn’t prove that, rapist gets 10,000 bucks. Even if she CAN prove that and doesn’t have to pay the squealer fee, she can’t force the rapist to pay her court fees - the accusers don’t have to pay the court fees even when they’re wrong.
Well, the rapist wouldn’t want to come forward and admit he raped the teen, right? Except we all know how often the guy can insist it was consensual, the girl lied about her age, yadda yadda yadda.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Sept 5, 2021 11:53:56 GMT -5
There was a TX senator on one of the morning shows this AM that said under this new law, a young teen could be raped, and if her mom took her to a clinic (even if she ISN’T pregnant) the rapist could report the mom to the TX squealer line and attempt to sue her for 10,000. Mom would then have to prove she did NOT assist in obtaining an abortion for her daughter - the VICTIM - and if she couldn’t prove that, rapist gets 10,000 bucks. Even if she CAN prove that and doesn’t have to pay the squealer fee, she can’t force the rapist to pay her court fees - the accusers don’t have to pay the court fees even when they’re wrong. Well, the rapist wouldn’t want to come forward and admit he raped the teen, right? Except we all know how often the guy can insist it was consensual, the girl lied about her age, yadda yadda yadda. Like Mr Senator and his fellow rich boys don't already have the law on their side. This pretty much ensures women's silence. Disgusting.
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Post by thyme4change on Sept 5, 2021 14:30:08 GMT -5
There was a TX senator on one of the morning shows this AM that said under this new law, a young teen could be raped, and if her mom took her to a clinic (even if she ISN’T pregnant) the rapist could report the mom to the TX squealer line and attempt to sue her for 10,000. Mom would then have to prove she did NOT assist in obtaining an abortion for her daughter - the VICTIM - and if she couldn’t prove that, rapist gets 10,000 bucks. Even if she CAN prove that and doesn’t have to pay the squealer fee, she can’t force the rapist to pay her court fees - the accusers don’t have to pay the court fees even when they’re wrong. Well, the rapist wouldn’t want to come forward and admit he raped the teen, right? Except we all know how often the guy can insist it was consensual, the girl lied about her age, yadda yadda yadda. Although that is a possible scenario, the vast majority of the lawsuits will be against providers. They will continue to get sued until every single one is closed. If they are particularly vicious, they will continue to go after any clinic that provides low cost birth control, and get them closed too. This will keep poor brown and black women in poverty and white people can continue to villianize them.
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Post by weltschmerz on Sept 6, 2021 14:45:54 GMT -5
What’s most peculiar is that these people are the ones always whining about ‘communism’ and smearing the left with cries of socialism. What they’re doing is EXACTLY like Stalin’s Russia, encouraging citizens to rat each other out. Who’s the communist now? Private life in communist Russia, he says, reduced people to a breed of whisperers — people scared to give full voice to doubts or dissidence, and whispering dark secrets behind the backs of neighbors, friends and even family. Stalin's regime relied heavily on "mutual surveillance," urging families to report on each other in communal living spaces and report "disloyalty." Many people did what they could to survive, but they dealt with shame and guilt long after Stalin's reign. www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=17376494
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 6, 2021 14:57:42 GMT -5
actually, this is not the first time. and it won't be the last.
there is the example everyone will remember: McCarthy. during the HUA trials, people were encouraged to rat out Americans for communist associations.
then, of course, there is the infamous Ashcroft example, where Bush's cabinet member encourage average Americans to rat out other average Americans for suspected terrorist activity.
this community policing model is a terrible idea. people with no training and natural suspicions, given license to police other Americans? what could possibly go wrong. just about everything.
#soontoexpatriate
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Post by weltschmerz on Sept 6, 2021 15:11:54 GMT -5
That's right. McCarthyism was a pogrom. It happened in the 50s. You'd think they would have learned from that.
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Post by Tennesseer on Sept 6, 2021 17:45:06 GMT -5
And who can forget Mao's Cultural Revolution. Chinese citizens turning in other Chinese citizens. And then public humiliation and then ff to re-education camps.
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Post by happyhoix on Sept 6, 2021 18:47:23 GMT -5
The nazi collaborators who ratted out fellow citizens to get them sent to the camps, like Anne Frank’s parents.
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Post by Tennesseer on Sept 7, 2021 19:29:19 GMT -5
Texas Governor Abbott it's his goal to get all past, present and future rapists off the streets of Texas. Therefore there will be no reason for a woman to get an abortion due to being raped.
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Post by NastyWoman on Sept 7, 2021 19:57:46 GMT -5
Texas Governor Abbott it's his goal to get all past, present and future rapists off the streets of Texas. Therefore there will be no reason for a woman to get an abortion due to being raped. And no actual laws or resources are needed as rape is already against the law. one has to wonder whether we can amend the open carry law to include a "little ladies only" clause by adding machetes for women in case she feels threatened. Chop off your need for an abortion so to speak
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Post by teen persuasion on Sept 7, 2021 21:43:54 GMT -5
Texas Governor Abbott it's his goal to get all past, present and future rapists off the streets of Texas. Therefore there will be no reason for a woman to get an abortion due to being raped. Minority Report was trending on Twitter today, after he made that comment about rapists. People were also quoting parts of the law that said merely considering taking action to assist someone with getting an abortion, but then not actually doing anything, was enough to get sued over. Quite a few of those referring to the Minority Report parallels wondered why he'd want to lock up his party's base supporters. Others took offense at the "get the rapists off the streets" verbiage, pointing out that many rapists are family or friends of the victims, not strangers from the streets.
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Post by Tennesseer on Sept 7, 2021 22:06:04 GMT -5
Texas Governor Abbott it's his goal to get all past, present and future rapists off the streets of Texas. Therefore there will be no reason for a woman to get an abortion due to being raped. Minority Report was trending on Twitter today, after he made that comment about rapists. People were also quoting parts of the law that said merely considering taking action to assist someone with getting an abortion, but then not actually doing anything, was enough to get sued over. Quite a few of those referring to the Minority Report parallels wondered why he'd want to lock up his party's base supporters. Others took offense at the "get the rapists off the streets" verbiage, pointing out that many rapists are family or friends of the victims, not strangers from the streets. And no word from Abbott about pregnancy by incest. Carry your father's baby to term and raise your daughter/sister.
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 7, 2021 22:31:36 GMT -5
Texas Governor Abbott it's his goal to get all past, present and future rapists off the streets of Texas. Therefore there will be no reason for a woman to get an abortion due to being raped. how? by electing them to congress and the presidency?
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Post by NastyWoman on Sept 7, 2021 23:25:53 GMT -5
Texas Governor Abbott it's his goal to get all past, present and future rapists off the streets of Texas. Therefore there will be no reason for a woman to get an abortion due to being raped. how? by electing them to congress and the presidency? You forgot the Supreme Court which has at least two questionable members currently
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Post by happyhoix on Sept 8, 2021 5:18:34 GMT -5
Texas Governor Abbott it's his goal to get all past, present and future rapists off the streets of Texas. Therefore there will be no reason for a woman to get an abortion due to being raped. how? by electing them to congress and the presidency? Well it’s not rape if you call it consensual. Of course they all want it, even if they say they don’t. They just all like to tease. Said no woman ever.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Sept 8, 2021 7:44:25 GMT -5
Texas Governor Abbott it's his goal to get all past, present and future rapists off the streets of Texas. Therefore there will be no reason for a woman to get an abortion due to being raped. how? by electing them to congress and the presidency? Remember if it is true rape a woman's body will reject the pregnancy. So if she got pregnant clearly she was asking for it.
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Post by chiver78 on Sept 8, 2021 8:31:27 GMT -5
This is your friendly reminder to stay away from the content of abortion or why someone might deem it necessary. I'm going to clean up some more posts now.
-chiver mod
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Post by happyhoix on Sept 8, 2021 9:57:11 GMT -5
The whistleblower site got kicked off another host site again. This was a conservative site, but they also had a problem with people reporting personal information about third parties.
I can see why. If someone got falsely accused under this law and had to prove why they shouldn’t pay 10,000 bucks, they’ll end up suing this vigilante website and the server host and the horse they rode in on.
Meanwhile, the vigilante group is offering to help other states set up their own snitch central sites, while GOP members are cringing because they know what a lightning rod issue this is becoming to female and younger voters, especially.
Here they were all excited about using Afghanistan to defeat the Dems in the midterms, and this much more controversial issue pops up, with the GOP aligned with the least popular side, with most voters.
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Post by weltschmerz on Sept 8, 2021 13:03:08 GMT -5
This is your friendly reminder to stay away from the content of abortion or why someone might deem it necessary. I'm going to clean up some more posts now. -chiver mod Seriously? My post about a virus us having more rights than a woman in Texas went *poof*? Why? What was so contentious about it? It didn't discuss abortion or why sonmeone might deem it necessary. Please explain.
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