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Post by djAdvocate on Aug 30, 2021 0:27:44 GMT -5
Natural asphyxiation - sounds like something those nitwits would come up with. It has a lot more letters than Covid and none of them are an "O" so it is something else altogether - and best of all it is "natural" so there now. Nothing you can prevent with stupid mask or a government tracking device aka a vaccine. the disease came from nature, ergo.......
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Post by tbop77 on Aug 30, 2021 6:37:50 GMT -5
A California psychiatrist who recently advised Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) is a proponent of using ivermectin, the parasite drug typically used to deworm horses, to treat COVID-19 despite health experts’ warning against its usage. In July, McDonald was appointed by DeSantis as part of a closed-door panel on masks in schools. Ten school districts in Florida have bucked DeSantis’ order banning mask mandates thus far, despite his threats to cut funding from districts that implement mask requirements. According to the Times, McDonald is seen arguing that “masking children is child abuse” in a video of the closed-door meeting released by DeSantis’ office. McDonald also compared mask mandates to the apartheid, South Africa’s racist system of segregation that was in place for decades until the early 1990s. Earlier this year, McDonald called people who wear masks “retarded” in a tweet. www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/doctor-advising-desantis-promoted-dewormer-for-covid-that-health-experts-warn-against/ar-AANRYMR?ocid=msedgntpThis is a big reason this pandemic will never end. The mentality of our elected officials has never ceased to amaze me since this all started.
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Post by happyhoix on Aug 30, 2021 7:12:55 GMT -5
Rand Paul is claiming federal researchers won’t study ivermectin as a treatment for Covid because they hate Trump. (That’s the horse and cow dewormer.)
Sure, that’s why. Couldn’t be that it’s toxic to humans.
Meanwhile a Florida radio host who called himself Mr Anti Vax died from Covid.
This seems to be a mass Darwin event. Maybe that’s what we needed.
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Post by pulmonarymd on Aug 30, 2021 7:35:00 GMT -5
I saw that. Rand Paul appears to have forgotten he was a physician. If you truly believe we wouldn’t use horseshit if it worked for this disease, you are crazy? You just need some sort of proof that it works. I doubt there are hospitals in deep red Kentucky that are using the drug. All those physicians are trump hating liberals too?
If you believe physicians act like this, then why trust us to treat anything.
Listening to a psychiatrist about the treatment of an infectious disease makes as much sense as letting me do heart surgery or letting Rand Paul treat someone with Covid. If that is the new criteria for expertise, I am opening a garage and I will fix your car
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Aug 30, 2021 7:37:38 GMT -5
Rand Paul is claiming federal researchers won’t study ivermectin as a treatment for Covid because they hate Trump. (That’s the horse and cow dewormer.)
Sure, that’s why. Couldn’t be that it’s toxic to humans. Meanwhile a Florida radio host who called himself Mr Anti Vax died from Covid. This seems to be a mass Darwin event. Maybe that’s what we needed. He likes to remind people he is a doctor. Let him go the way of the greats and test ivermectin on himself. People will call him a hero if he proves all those evil Trump hating liberal scientists wrong. Sometimes to right a great wrong in society you must sacrifice yourself as a human guinea pig. The fact that he isn't lining up to take it should tell the idiots who support him something but it won't.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Aug 30, 2021 7:38:57 GMT -5
I saw that. Rand Paul appears to have forgotten he was a physician. If you truly believe we wouldn’t use horseshit if it worked for this disease, you are crazy? You just need some sort of proof that it works. I doubt there are hospitals in deep red Kentucky that are using the drug. All those physicians are trump hating liberals too? If you believe physicians act like this, then why trust us to treat anything. Listening to a psychiatrist about the treatment of an infectious disease makes as much sense as letting me do heart surgery or letting Rand Paul treat someone with Covid. If that is the new criteria for expertise, I am opening a garage and I will fix your carI'll raise you I've watched Discovery Science therefore that makes me an astronomer so I declare Pluto to be a planet.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2021 7:42:31 GMT -5
Sounds to me like that psychiatrist needs a psychiatrist. Or maybe a head change like in the Woody Allen movie "Sleeper"? Dr. Rigby recommends long-term in-patient treatment and an intervention. BTW, pulmonarymd, what do you charge for a U-joint problem and how soon can you get it done?
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Post by pulmonarymd on Aug 30, 2021 8:23:37 GMT -5
What’s a u joint?/s
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Post by Opti on Aug 30, 2021 9:34:58 GMT -5
A California psychiatrist who recently advised Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) is a proponent of using ivermectin, the parasite drug typically used to deworm horses, to treat COVID-19 despite health experts’ warning against its usage. In July, McDonald was appointed by DeSantis as part of a closed-door panel on masks in schools. Ten school districts in Florida have bucked DeSantis’ order banning mask mandates thus far, despite his threats to cut funding from districts that implement mask requirements. According to the Times, McDonald is seen arguing that “masking children is child abuse” in a video of the closed-door meeting released by DeSantis’ office. McDonald also compared mask mandates to the apartheid, South Africa’s racist system of segregation that was in place for decades until the early 1990s. Earlier this year, McDonald called people who wear masks “retarded” in a tweet. www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/doctor-advising-desantis-promoted-dewormer-for-covid-that-health-experts-warn-against/ar-AANRYMR?ocid=msedgntpThis is a big reason this pandemic will never end. The mentality of our elected officials has never ceased to amaze me since this all started. McDonald sounds like someone horrible at their job looking for marks to fleece until he retires.
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Post by happyhoix on Aug 30, 2021 9:46:31 GMT -5
Mississippi Governor Tate Reeves says southerners are a little less scared of Covid because they believe in eternal life. Although, he acknowledged, God also tells us to take necessary precautions.
Hopefully he can take refuge in the knowledge of eternal life when his state votes him out of office.
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Post by thyme4change on Aug 30, 2021 9:51:31 GMT -5
Natural asphyxiation - sounds like something those nitwits would come up with. It has a lot more letters than Covid and none of them are an "O" so it is something else altogether - and best of all it is "natural" so there now. Nothing you can prevent with stupid mask or a government tracking device aka a vaccine. the disease came from nature, ergo....... I think that is still being debated?
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Aug 30, 2021 9:52:11 GMT -5
Mississippi Governor Tate Reeves says southerners are a little less scared of Covid because they believe in eternal life. Although, he acknowledged, God also tells us to take necessary precautions. Hopefully he can take refuge in the knowledge of eternal life when his state votes him out of office. Well this does nothing to convince me organized religion isn't a cult.
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Post by bean29 on Aug 30, 2021 11:24:58 GMT -5
Wisconsin Appointed Former Governor of Wisconsin and Former Secretary of Heath and Human Services under George W Bush as interim President of the University of Wisconsin System. He has put in place incentives to get vaccinated, and is requiring visitors to schools to wear Masks and get tested. The state legislature tried to put into place that the schools had to get their Covid-19 protocols approved by the legislature. Tommy Thompson fired back that they were "both wrong on the law and wrong as a matter of public policy." He won and the legislature backed down. www.jsonline.com/story/news/education/2021/08/24/tommy-thompson-spurns-gop-attempt-control-uw-systems-covid-rules/5571443001/www.wpr.org/uw-system-refuses-submit-covid-19-safety-restrictions-republican-approvalIf you want someone to cow-tow to you, you shouldn't put someone who has a long history of leadership and representing the people, who no longer has a desire to be re-elected in place. He is 80 years old. I am glad he is interim president, but they better get on finding a replacement. I think they had selected someone, but he ultimately turned the job down.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2021 11:48:36 GMT -5
You gotta ask about U joints and you want me to trust you with my lungs? What kinda mechanic are you? I suppose you don't know a thing about fuel injectors, either. Hydraulic brakes? Transmissions?
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Post by happyhoix on Aug 30, 2021 12:34:46 GMT -5
Wisconsin Appointed Former Governor of Wisconsin and Former Secretary of Heath and Human Services under George W Bush as interim President of the University of Wisconsin System. He has put in place incentives to get vaccinated, and is requiring visitors to schools to wear Masks and get tested. The state legislature tried to put into place that the schools had to get their Covid-19 protocols approved by the legislature. Tommy Thompson fired back that they were "both wrong on the law and wrong as a matter of public policy." He won and the legislature backed down. www.jsonline.com/story/news/education/2021/08/24/tommy-thompson-spurns-gop-attempt-control-uw-systems-covid-rules/5571443001/www.wpr.org/uw-system-refuses-submit-covid-19-safety-restrictions-republican-approvalIf you want someone to cow-tow to you, you shouldn't put someone who has a long history of leadership and representing the people, who no longer has a desire to be re-elected in place. He is 80 years old. I am glad he is interim president, but they better get on finding a replacement. I think they had selected someone, but he ultimately turned the job down. The way these GOP controlled state legislators think they can dictate Covid rules and who gets to vote they’re behaving like communists.
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Post by djAdvocate on Aug 30, 2021 13:04:58 GMT -5
You gotta ask about U joints and you want me to trust you with my lungs? What kinda mechanic are you? I suppose you don't know a thing about fuel injectors, either. Hydraulic brakes? Transmissions? he seems to know a fair amount about transmissions.
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Post by happyhoix on Aug 30, 2021 15:17:56 GMT -5
Ohio judge is forcing a hospital to treat a patient with Covid with the horse deworming medication because the patients wife sued to get it.
An Ohio physician who has advocated for the deworming medicine wrote the prescription.
The medicine is only approved for human patients with intestinal worms. Pretty sure Covid is not worms.
The physician, a noted local crank called Wagshul, claims other countries looking at all these Covid deaths we are allowing would be screaming’genocide’ at us.
I don’t understand this thought process. Vaccine made by multiple companies, approved for use by the CDC, used all around the world, begged for in third world countries - that gets rejected as poison , but the veterinary drug the CDC and FDA are begging people not to take - they are suing to get their hands on it.
It’s a mystery.
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Post by pulmonarymd on Aug 30, 2021 16:13:39 GMT -5
Ohio judge is forcing a hospital to treat a patient with Covid with the horse deworming medication because the patients wife sued to get it. An Ohio physician who has advocated for the deworming medicine wrote the prescription. The medicine is only approved for human patients with intestinal worms. Pretty sure Covid is not worms. The physician, a noted local crank called Wagshul, claims other countries looking at all these Covid deaths we are allowing would be screaming’genocide’ at us. I don’t understand this thought process. Vaccine made by multiple companies, approved for use by the CDC, used all around the world, begged for in third world countries - that gets rejected as poison , but the veterinary drug the CDC and FDA are begging people not to take - they are suing to get their hands on it. It’s a mystery. I would refuse. I dare them to jail a physician treating covid patients during a surge. Going to look good
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Post by justme on Aug 30, 2021 16:15:35 GMT -5
I saw that. Rand Paul appears to have forgotten he was a physician. If you truly believe we wouldn’t use horseshit if it worked for this disease, you are crazy? You just need some sort of proof that it works. I doubt there are hospitals in deep red Kentucky that are using the drug. All those physicians are trump hating liberals too? If you believe physicians act like this, then why trust us to treat anything. Listening to a psychiatrist about the treatment of an infectious disease makes as much sense as letting me do heart surgery or letting Rand Paul treat someone with Covid. If that is the new criteria for expertise, I am opening a garage and I will fix your car That's why I don't get. I know someone who was a pharmacist (left to become a life coach but that was before covid) going on about how this worm stuff is proven safe in humans and that the mainstream media is keeping information from people. I didn't wade into the crazy. I'm over it after people are against the vaccine because it's EUA but are perfectly OK with a lot of other shit that's EUA or not even that. But I'm just like even if I agree that the media is hiding shit, do you really believe that thousands of doctors are all in on the take? That they know of something that works and instead are like nah I'll keep working myself to the bone and risk getting sick and can't evert use this miracle cure because of doctors took it the secret would be out. It defies logic. That many people can't keep shit hidden. Especially when doing that fucks up their lives.
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Post by Rukh O'Rorke on Aug 30, 2021 18:17:50 GMT -5
The reported death toll in Florida is already higher than what he won by. We're prob fucked still on our state congress though. The problem is that it has to be that conservative devotees have to outnumber Democratic voters deaths. I am sure the death toll is greater than the vote differential in a lot of places. How many of the deaths were not anti-vaxx nut cases, but instead doctors, nurses, caregivers or other people that were only at risk because people needed them, and they answered the call to help - knowing they may pay the ultimate price. Sad thoughts indeed.
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Post by thyme4change on Aug 30, 2021 18:20:59 GMT -5
I will say that there is some misleading information out there. Ivermectin is approved for humans, and they have a human dosage, etc. Using it for Covid would be off label - which happens, and it isn't always the worst thing in the world. A lot of people, including certain news shows, are saying that it is ONLY for livestock. I get they are trying to deter people who can't find a doctor that will prescribe it from going into TSC and taking the horse version. But, I suspect if you asked 500 people, a large portion of them would not know it is approved for humans.
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Post by happyhoix on Aug 30, 2021 18:37:40 GMT -5
I will say that there is some misleading information out there. Ivermectin is approved for humans, and they have a human dosage, etc. Using it for Covid would be off label - which happens, and it isn't always the worst thing in the world. A lot of people, including certain news shows, are saying that it is ONLY for livestock. I get they are trying to deter people who can't find a doctor that will prescribe it from going into TSC and taking the horse version. But, I suspect if you asked 500 people, a large portion of them would not know it is approved for humans. It’s approved to treat parasitical worms in humans at, I imagine, much lower doses than used for farm animals. I agree with the poster who stated it this had any scientific proof it worked, medical professionals would be handing it out like candy. Maybe at some point there will be, but right now there is nothing other then a few tiny trials with ambiguous results. But people are willing to go with a huge unknown while vilifying a proven arm jab. Inexplicable.
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Post by swamp on Aug 31, 2021 11:02:19 GMT -5
At this point I don’t care. If you’re anti vaccine abs anti mask you’re too stupid to live.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Aug 31, 2021 11:51:49 GMT -5
How FL ‘cooks’ their data. www.yahoo.com/news/florida-changed-covid-19-data-141255528.htmlI have dealt with enough data in my job to know how incredibly easy it is to get the numbers to say what you want them to say. Just because you know how to do it means you can see how someone less ethical can and will do it with the right incentive. As my first boss as a professional fell into the second group and at 22 I saw how easily data can be manipulated, and got the hell out of that job. My next boss fell on the other end of the spectrum, so I parked myself there the rest of my career.
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Post by happyhoix on Aug 31, 2021 15:08:28 GMT -5
Congrats state senator David Byrd from Tennessee!
Last June, he voted for a House resolution congratulating Tennessee citizens for clearly seeing that the mainstream media has sensationalized the reporting of Covid in service of political agendas.’
Then, around Thanksgiving he got Covid, got pneumonia, spent 55 days on a respirator, got Covid cholangiopathy, had to have a kidney transplant in June.
He said the experience brought much clarity: ‘this disease wants to kill us.’ Covid is real and dangerous.
I hope every person who is insisting Covid isn’t a thing does not have to personally experience it to find out otherwise. This guy came as close as possible to being dead. Please let others learn from his example.
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Post by Tiny on Aug 31, 2021 17:47:15 GMT -5
Good thing he's got some stellar healthcare coverage! 55 days in the hospital on a respirator. That's gotta be a big hospital bill. And it looks like he got a kidney transplant in record time... (maybe the donor had close ties to him and so it went faster?) He beat out about 100K other people waiting for kidneys.
Yeah, when I read: He said the experience brought much clarity: ‘this disease wants to kill us.’ Covid is real and dangerous. I heard the unsaid smug "but it didn't kill me!!! I got money!!! if you got money - no need to worry about Covid19."
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Post by pulmonarymd on Aug 31, 2021 17:54:38 GMT -5
It’s trying to kill us. No shit! Did he think physicians were lying?
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Aug 31, 2021 17:55:48 GMT -5
Good thing he's got some stellar healthcare coverage! 55 days in the hospital on a respirator. That's gotta be a big hospital bill. And it looks like he got a kidney transplant in record time... (maybe the donor had close ties to him and so it went faster?) He beat out about 100K other people waiting for kidneys. Yeah, when I read: He said the experience brought much clarity: ‘this disease wants to kill us.’ Covid is real and dangerous. I heard the unsaid smug "but it didn't kill me!!! I got money!!! if you got money - no need to worry about Covid19." This isn’t quite fair. If you have someone willing to donate a kidney to you, you aren’t exactly competing for the 100k kidneys that those who have no family or friends that are viable donors.
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Post by Tiny on Aug 31, 2021 17:58:29 GMT -5
FWIW: on the World o Meter - Florida has been climbing in the deaths per million - about a month ago it was 1940 or so per million - and today it's 2032 per million. Florida is just leap frogging other states in the Deaths per Million - today the WorldoMeter shows it as 2,048 deaths per million... That's 16 more deaths per million than a day ago... Looks like the deaths per day are back up into the 2 previous 'surge' number range. I wonder how they are handling all the bodies - based on the "no one is dying" face that seems to be put forward (or at least by my relatives - who watch TV news and get their info from that source). And this evening the World-o-meter is showing Florida with 2,074 deaths per million.... that's pretty amazing considering hardly anyone is dying from Covid19 in Florida. I need Florida to leap frog Illinois in the deaths per million and than I will no longer be "polite" to my Florida relatives. I'm guessing this will happen by the end of the week. Illinois has had an uptick in cases and deaths - but nothing like the Southern States (including Florida). (and an Illinois relative was giving me grief about the "fake news" about rural areas having an scary big increase in Covid19 cases - of course their ICUs are filling up - they only got 8 or 10 beds - big Urban places have hundreds of beds.... therefore there isn't more Covid19 in rural places they just have fewer places to put the fewer sick people. They mentioned Kentucky (as I guess that was on the nightly news.) I mentioned that Illinois has 12 million people and is reporting about 5,000 new cases per day - Kentucky has 3 million people and is reporting 5,000 cases how exactly is that the same I'm thinking I got less of a chance of bumping into someone with covid19 in Illinois than I would in Kentucky.... I know I'm bad at math...so maybe I'm wrong. )
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