Dominion's lawsuits allowed to go forward...

[kadee79]

Against Powell, Giuliani & Lindell....

A federal judge on Wednesday denied requests by Donald Trump’s former lawyers and allies to throw out more than $3 billion in defamation lawsuits over false claims that a voting machine company’s technology was used to rig the 2020 presidential election.

The ruling by U.S. District Judge Carl J. Nichols in Washington allows lawsuits by Dominion Voting Systems against former Trump attorneys Sidney Powell and Rudolph W. Giuliani and MyPillow chief executive Mike Lindell to move forward.

In a written decision, Nichols said that Powell and Lindell made their claims “knowing that they were false or with reckless disregard for the truth.”

“A reasonable juror” could conclude that Powell did not have a video of Dominion’s founder saying that “he can change a million votes, no problem at all," as she had claimed, the judge wrote. Nichols also wrote that a sensible juror could conclude that Lindell’s insistence on “the existence of a vast international conspiracy that is ignored by the government but proven by a spreadsheet on an internet blog is so inherently improbable that only a reckless man would believe it,” referencing Lindell’s assertion that a spreadsheet he tweeted out as proof of Trump’s victory was evidence.

Giuliani requested that the complaint against him be dismissed for three reasons: Dominion is a corporation, it may only recover lost profits, and that the company must plead damages for its defamation claim.

Nichols said Dominion’s complaint does allege lost profits with specificity.

www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/dominions-lawsuits-against-trump-allies-can-move-forward-after-judge-rejects-arguments/ar-AANdCli?ocid=msedgntp&li=BBnb7Kz

[Tennesseer]

Good. I hope to see all three of them living under a bridge and in empty refrigerator boxes real soon.

[happyhoix]

Apparently Lindell was at some rally yesterday when this news broke and he rushed off the stage.

Powell and Giuliani are lawyers and I think they believed they could lie because lying is an expected part of politics. They deserve what they get.

I actually feel sorry for lindell, though, because I think he’s suffering from some kind of religious mania. He honestly thinks if he can just get his evidence before the supremes, they will vote 9 to 0 to reinstate Trump to the White House, and Biden will willing leave office because he will also have a profound religious awakening. Then everyone in America will experience the same religious awakening, and we’ll become an awesome Christian nation.

Lindell is like that guy who believes he found a portrait of Mary formed in mildew on the exterior wall of his garage. No one else can see it, but he wants to tear down his house and build a shrine on the spot so everyone else can come have their own religious awakening.

There is no reasoning with those kinds of people. Sad for him and his family.

[bean29]

I guess Mike Lindell may be found looney tunes crazy, but I suspect Rudy Giuliani has also lost his grip on reality and both were probably exploited for Political Purposes - so who do we hold responsible for this?  Dominion and the Nation have been Damaged by these assertions.

[djAdvocate]

you saying they might try incompetence defense?

[bean29]

Aug 12, 2021 13:26:06 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

you saying they might try incompetence defense?

Actually, I don't think Lindell or Giuliani think they are crazy, so I don't think they will try for that defense - but having lived through a family member losing their grip on reality - I think it is morally reprehensible to take advantage of someone who is living with a mental illness.  Politicians have to have known these individuals were not living in reality and yet they manipulated them to their own ends.

[djAdvocate]

normally I would be with you, bean.
but with these guys?
they are literally killing people with the things they say.

[Opti]

Aug 12, 2021 13:34:59 GMT -5 bean29 said:

Aug 12, 2021 13:26:06 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

you saying they might try incompetence defense?

Actually, I don't think Lindell or Giuliani think they are crazy, so I don't think they will try for that defense - but having lived through a family member losing their grip on reality - I think it is morally reprehensible to take advantage of someone who is living with a mental illness.  Politicians have to have known these individuals were not living in reality and yet they manipulated them to their own ends.

Lindell chose his path. I don't think Trump really influenced him as much as you think. Lindell made the decision to hold his Cyber conference. Trump is going in a much different direction. As for Giuliani, maybe he's also the author of his own destruction. Sure I think Trump manipulated him far more than he did Lindell, but I think his cracking might have more with his concious and subconcious minds fighting it out. But I could be very wrong in his case. IDK. 

[Opti]

Aug 12, 2021 8:59:45 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

Apparently Lindell was at some rally yesterday when this news broke and he rushed off the stage.

Powell and Giuliani are lawyers and I think they believed they could lie because lying is an expected part of politics. They deserve what they get.

I actually feel sorry for lindell, though, because I think he’s suffering from some kind of religious mania. He honestly thinks if he can just get his evidence before the supremes, they will vote 9 to 0 to reinstate Trump to the White House, and Biden will willing leave office because he will also have a profound religious awakening. Then everyone in America will experience the same religious awakening, and we’ll become an awesome Christian nation.

Lindell is like that guy who believes he found a portrait of Mary formed in mildew on the exterior wall of his garage. No one else can see it, but he wants to tear down his house and build a shrine on the spot so everyone else can come have their own religious awakening.

There is no reasoning with those kinds of people. Sad for him and his family.

I don't feel sorry for Lindell. He's had issues in the past and he's chosen not to guard against them. More than a few interviewers have tried to point out he may have gone down the wrong path because of his history, but he does not want to hear it or acknowledge it. Colbert's interview of him not too long ago was fairly gentle. But Lindell was not having it. He believes he is of sound mind and feels the stuff he found, which shows nothing of value, really is proof. 

I think losing in court might snap him out of this current delusion. Or for his sake I hope so, because nothing else has.

[thyme4change]

In a civil trial, what percentage of the jury has to agree to get a winner?

Because getting a single person to vote that Lindell, Powell and Giuliani aren't liable will be a piece of cake. Getting 2 might be harder but still doable. 3 would take a crafty lawyer, but may be possible - especially if there are questionable ethics involved.

[Opti]

Lindell needs to be stopped IMO. One of the people on the video wants Lindell's evidence to be presented by the media not fact checked. I think they also admit they do not understand what was presented. 

www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/mypillow-ceo-s-election-fraud-proof-implodes-in-front-of-a-live-audience/vi-AANgdqH?ocid=undefined
Video at link. 

[happyhoix]

One of Salon’s reporters has dogged Mike Lindell, My Pillow guy. Story about Liddell having to sell his plane due to the Dominion lawsuit, then a story about Lindell paying 3 million bucks to some hacking guys to try to produce proof that China hacked the 2020 election and getting nothing at all in return for it. 

Now Lindell is declaring the journalist is a enemy of the people and vows to go ‘after him’. 

www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/mypillow-ceo-mike-lindell-threatens-to-go-after-investigative-journalist-calling-him-an-enemy-of-our-country/ar-AAO7uFT?li=BBnbfcL

Just what a good fascist would say. 

[happyhoix]

Lindell organized a rally in Kentucky this weekend, expecting 10,000 patriots to show up, and only got 300.

www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/pro-trump-rally-expecting-10-000-attendees-sees-only-a-few-hundred-show-up/ar-AAOmTMT

I’m not sure why they thought so many would show up. First of all, Trump was not attending, just some conspiracy nuts and Mike Flynn. Secondly they charged a minimum of $125 a head.

Between the money and Covid, I’m surprised they even got 300. Poor Lindell continues his existence in a parallel Trump universe.

[Opti]

I don't know why they thought 10,000 people would want to spend $125 or more on attending a rally. Is Lindell and others trying to do a money grab to fund themselves?

[Opti]

Sept 5, 2021 11:15:23 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

One of Salon’s reporters has dogged Mike Lindell, My Pillow guy. Story about Liddell having to sell his plane due to the Dominion lawsuit, then a story about Lindell paying 3 million bucks to some hacking guys to try to produce proof that China hacked the 2020 election and getting nothing at all in return for it. 

Now Lindell is declaring the journalist is a enemy of the people and vows to go ‘after him’. 

www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/mypillow-ceo-mike-lindell-threatens-to-go-after-investigative-journalist-calling-him-an-enemy-of-our-country/ar-AAO7uFT?li=BBnbfcL

Just what a good fascist would say. 

I guess Lindell isn't ready to acknowledge that if there is an enemy of the people in this equation, it would be him. 

[Tiny]

I suspect they sold close to 10K tickets... I'm guessing like any other ticketed event they sold tickets before the event and then based on ticket sales would decide how to proceed with the event.

I'm thinking maybe the 300 people who showed up didn't get the email about how no one who purchased a ticket was going to the event. Or maybe they were the spur of the moment people who showed up and paid at the gate to get in.


Did the speakers and bands even take the stage? The article doesn't say.   


The article did say this:

While many recent pro-Trump events featuring Lindell, Flynn and the other conservative figures have been free, Forward Kentucky reported that the tickets for the We the People Reunion were starting at $125. General admission "plus" tickets were sold for $250 and VIP tickets were going for $500.

Could it be that the majority of trump voters don't have $125 to spend on something like this? 

[happyhoix]

Sept 13, 2021 9:09:07 GMT -5 Tiny said:

I suspect they sold close to 10K tickets... I'm guessing like any other ticketed event they sold tickets before the event and then based on ticket sales would decide how to proceed with the event.

I'm thinking maybe the 300 people who showed up didn't get the email about how no one who purchased a ticket was going to the event. Or maybe they were the spur of the moment people who showed up and paid at the gate to get in.


Did the speakers and bands even take the stage? The article doesn't say.   


The article did say this:

While many recent pro-Trump events featuring Lindell, Flynn and the other conservative figures have been free, Forward Kentucky reported that the tickets for the We the People Reunion were starting at $125. General admission "plus" tickets were sold for $250 and VIP tickets were going for $500.

Could it be that the majority of trump voters don't have $125 to spend on something like this? 

I think this was the main issue. They might have paid to see Trump but he wasn’t on the bill. $125 bucks is a lot of money to see a bunch of conspiracy nuts talk. And possibly get Covid.

I was also curious to see where that money was supposed to go. Lindells legal fees? I didn’t see that mentioned.

[Tennesseer]

Read this article this morning regarding two snake oil salesmen.  

Mike Lindell held a 3-day telethon called 'Take Back What The Devil Stole From You' to sell pillows with televangelist Jim Bakker

MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell hosted a three-day telethon with disgraced televangelist Jim Bakker this week.

The telethon, called "Take Back What The Devil Stole From You," aired in hour-long installments, which started on September 14 and continued through September 16.

Much of Lindell's airtime over the three days was devoted to peddling his standard products, including a mattress topper, various pillows, and a five-pack of "Children's Bible Pillows" — a line of MyPillow products that features stories from the Bible — for $100.

Lindell also took the opportunity to push his baseless election fraud conspiracies, talking about how the country has been stolen on both a "micro and macro level."

Mike Lindell held a 3-day telethon called 'Take Back What The Devil Stole From You' to sell pillows with televangelist Jim Bakker


Further down the article it mentioned the book Mike lindell wrote and self-published in late 2019. Name of the book is 'What Are the Odds?'

Scrolling down the Amazon page to see what the book was about its description read (bold highlighting mine):

****Due to the holographic cover this will not be accepted into prisons/jails. Please choose the prison approved version.**** Far more than a “business memoir,” What Are the Odds? is a raw, authentic account by a man many thought would never rise above his serial, addiction-fueled failures. Mike’s gripping narrative transports readers from his small-town tavern with its colorful cast of “Regulars” to Mexico and a drug deal gone awry. From Las Vegas casinos, where Mike won and lost fortunes as a professional gambler, to a jail-cell beatdown. From failed rehabs to his 20-year marriage, an ideal union decimated by addiction. And finally, to the redemption of the most shameful moment of his life. An unvarnished account of the ravages of cocaine, crack, and gambling addiction, What Are the Odds? tells the improbable tale of how a small-town guy with a dream somehow made it a reality. More importantly, Mike opens up about the God who relentlessly chased him down, turning him from a casual believer to a passionate evangelist with an absolute, mathematical certainty that God is real. What Are the Odds? will not only speak to entrepreneurs and those struggling with addiction, but also to anyone looking for a message of hope.

Amazon: What Are The Odds?

[djAdvocate]

granted, this country has indeed been stolen at the micro level.

it is so small, the theft can't readily be detected.

[Opti]

Sept 17, 2021 16:09:41 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Read this article this morning regarding two snake oil salesmen.  

Mike Lindell held a 3-day telethon called 'Take Back What The Devil Stole From You' to sell pillows with televangelist Jim Bakker

MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell hosted a three-day telethon with disgraced televangelist Jim Bakker this week.

The telethon, called "Take Back What The Devil Stole From You," aired in hour-long installments, which started on September 14 and continued through September 16.

Much of Lindell's airtime over the three days was devoted to peddling his standard products, including a mattress topper, various pillows, and a five-pack of "Children's Bible Pillows" — a line of MyPillow products that features stories from the Bible — for $100.

Lindell also took the opportunity to push his baseless election fraud conspiracies, talking about how the country has been stolen on both a "micro and macro level."

Mike Lindell held a 3-day telethon called 'Take Back What The Devil Stole From You' to sell pillows with televangelist Jim Bakker


Further down the article it mentioned the book Mike lindell wrote and self-published in late 2019. Name of the book is 'What Are the Odds?'

Scrolling down the Amazon page to see what the book was about its description read (bold highlighting mine):

****Due to the holographic cover this will not be accepted into prisons/jails. Please choose the prison approved version.**** Far more than a “business memoir,” What Are the Odds? is a raw, authentic account by a man many thought would never rise above his serial, addiction-fueled failures. Mike’s gripping narrative transports readers from his small-town tavern with its colorful cast of “Regulars” to Mexico and a drug deal gone awry. From Las Vegas casinos, where Mike won and lost fortunes as a professional gambler, to a jail-cell beatdown. From failed rehabs to his 20-year marriage, an ideal union decimated by addiction. And finally, to the redemption of the most shameful moment of his life. An unvarnished account of the ravages of cocaine, crack, and gambling addiction, What Are the Odds? tells the improbable tale of how a small-town guy with a dream somehow made it a reality. More importantly, Mike opens up about the God who relentlessly chased him down, turning him from a casual believer to a passionate evangelist with an absolute, mathematical certainty that God is real. What Are the Odds? will not only speak to entrepreneurs and those struggling with addiction, but also to anyone looking for a message of hope.

Amazon: What Are The Odds?

After his multiple attempts at pretending people are out to kill him in the recent past, I wonder how much of his book is even close to the truth. Not surprised at all he thinks Jim Bakker was a good partner. 

[happyhoix]

Lindell is forgetting the date and month lately. And he thinks the government wants to kill him. 

www.salon.com/2021/09/17/mike-lindell-seems-confused-about-the-date-suggests-the-government-tried-to-him/

It’s like watching a slow motion train wreck. 

[Tennesseer]

Sept 17, 2021 22:26:46 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

Lindell is forgetting the date and month lately. And he thinks the government wants to kill him. 

www.salon.com/2021/09/17/mike-lindell-seems-confused-about-the-date-suggests-the-government-tried-to-him/

It’s like watching a slow motion train wreck. 

A disgruntled pillow buyer will probably get to Lindell first.