Job dilemma

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Jul 21, 2021 13:04:30 GMT -5 imawino said:

Jul 21, 2021 12:43:27 GMT -5 The Walk of the Penguin Mich said:

Demographics of Indiana are 90% white.  Indianapolis is 84.8% white.  Delaware is 68.7% white.  As a comparison, the US population as a whole is 88% white.  Then you factor in the percent of the demographics of the profession.

That doesn't sound right at all.  Only 12% of the US population as non-white?  

that obviously counts every hispanic and asian person as simply white, and possibly every mixed-race black person.  So, really a lot of brownish and spanish speaking white people.  I think if you're taking diversity in the workplace, 88% white is not an accurate representation of the US as a whole.

Caucasian is a race, Black is a race. Hispanic is not a race. I think Asian/Pacific Islander might be considered a race.
Do not confuse race with ethniticity. Hispanic is an ethnic group, not a race. Plus in the end most of us are bi-racial, which is really not on the forms. So yes, most people are White racially or claim so. The majority of the rest are Black racially or claim as such. And there are black Hispanics, white Hispanics and many other versions. And for fun, many Asians like those from the Philippines and other areas have a history of settlement from Europeans, ethnic Chinese, etc.

Apparently I am part Cauc and part Asian.

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Jul 21, 2021 11:16:07 GMT -5 nidena said:

You may have seen my other post--What impact...on your community...?--and my first comment that I don't love my job.  I don't.  I'm really good at it but I don't love it.  I like it because I'm good at it but I could happily not do it any more.

I recently came across a thing that has me questioning the character of my boss.  I haven't talked to him about the situation, yet, because I'm still processing things.  It all happened this week.  This article shows the flyer for an event that was going to happen but got cancelled.  The thing is, my boss is friends/colleagues/peer/mentor/does business with many on the flyer so it makes me believe his thinking is similar to theirs which is opposite of mine.

So, it's my own moral dilemma that I'm dealing with.  Do I continue to work for someone who is (potentially) so conservative that they value many things that are not in line with what I value?  Do I continue to work with someone who pays me with money he's received from doing business with these kinds of folks?  

On a reddit thread, there was much discussion about if we only knew what the big business gives their money to, we'd never buy anything from anyone, but this puts it very much 1° of separation vs 6°.

I'm trying to think my way through this but I keep going in mental circles.

First, I would confirm his views instead of assume. I'm weird and liberal like that. My one sib is a Trumper, one of my coworkers was. Interestingly, it did not make me one. Now for me it would depend more on what the business does and whether you leaving does any bit of good whatsoever for you because odds are you leaving will change that situation not at all. Most of the time I am not outspoken because of my unfortunate front desk position I now hold. Its very anti-me, but I like living indoors and I am not moving simply to live indoors. One of my lines. I went to college at Purdue and lived there year around for a couple years. It was not the faster more variety Chicago surburban existence I had come from. I hear it has changed. I haven't driven through nor been there in over a decade. 

Many people are selfish. Some give, some don't. The most generous people percentage-wise are those who are barely out of poverty because they know how much it sucks to be below that line. Run your circus. What these people do with theirs is not up to you. 

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I do plan to ask my boss about the event/his viewpoint.

I recognize that I'm impulsive in things and that's why I called out the past two days.  I needed to process things.  This thread was one way of doing so.

I like my boss, both of them.  I like the income I get from working for them.

I'll just have to see how things go.  Hell, I need to make it to one year, at the very least, by my own perspective. 

[Formerly SK]

As the parent of a trans child, I find this situation difficult to navigate.  I have co-workers who are openly anti-trans, although my building is so-so in support.  I try to be open about our situation (to the extend DS allows me) so people get exposure to our normalcy and learn over time that we are not freaks.  I do think it takes a LONG time for social change to occur.  DH's bosses are Trumpers and sort of know about DS as DH changed all his office pictures at one point to reflect DS' new identity.  In the 8 years since DS' transition, no one has acknowledged the situation to DH.  I think they have a sort of "agree to disagree" arrangement.  DH does like his job and doesn't want to change, so it works for him.

I guess in your case if you have the luxury to find something that better fits your values, I would do that.  But I understand if you choose to stay.  There is a lot of complexity in the world.

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Jul 21, 2021 19:06:37 GMT -5 Formerly SK said:

As the parent of a trans child, I find this situation difficult to navigate.  I have co-workers who are openly anti-trans, although my building is so-so in support.  I try to be open about our situation (to the extend DS allows me) so people get exposure to our normalcy and learn over time that we are not freaks.  I do think it takes a LONG time for social change to occur.  DH's bosses are Trumpers and sort of know about DS as DH changed all his office pictures at one point to reflect DS' new identity.  In the 8 years since DS' transition, no one has acknowledged the situation to DH.  I think they have a sort of "agree to disagree" arrangement.  DH does like his job and doesn't want to change, so it works for him.

I guess in your case if you have the luxury to find something that better fits your values, I would do that.  But I understand if you choose to stay.  There is a lot of complexity in the world.

Pronouns are definitely a touchy subject with the boss.  I asked him if he wanted to add "Preferred Pronouns" to the client info sheets that we use and he was very firm in his "no, it's not necessary."  Last night, I was thinking about that--it happened a couple months ago--and decided I'm going to add mine to my signature block.  I'm curious about responses/reactions.  If they're negative, that'll tell me more about what I need to know.