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Post by Value Buy on Aug 26, 2021 14:37:30 GMT -5
Any attack on our servicemen will be met with a swift and forceful response Biden stated this. Wonder what this means? Can anyone tell me what Biden meant by this?
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Post by hurley1980 on Aug 26, 2021 14:45:21 GMT -5
Really? So Biden is now in charge of ISIS?
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Post by pulmonarymd on Aug 26, 2021 14:49:28 GMT -5
Funny how republicans now seem to care about our servicemen. What was trumps response to the report of Russian bounties on our soldiers. I don’t seem to remember much criticism of the president then.
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Post by Value Buy on Aug 26, 2021 14:56:33 GMT -5
Really? So Biden is now in charge of ISIS? No, the point is ISIS owns this President. He is a lackey for them. Hell, he said they were not there along with AL Queda and that is why we could pull out. Five days later he said we had to get out because we might be attacked. He got that correct. Right from ISIS to his Intelligence people.
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Post by Value Buy on Aug 26, 2021 15:01:15 GMT -5
Funny how not one person in the state department, the Presidential cabinet or in the military intelligence section has resigned or been fired yet. I guess they have all been doing a great exemplary job so far.
What has evolved over the last ten days would have caused any first world country to have people in power fired or had resigned in disgrace or disagreement with the Admionistration by now. Not one person has fallen on their rusty sword.
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Post by pulmonarymd on Aug 26, 2021 15:05:44 GMT -5
The outrage over 12 deaths is amazing. 100k people in the hospital with a preventable disease. We will have thousands dead just from that. We have republicans lying about the situation, and refusing to do anything about it. But 12 Americans have died today 1/2 a world away, and it is an outrage. Excuse me, but I find 600k dead far more outrageous than what happened today. Spare me your faux concern about American lives
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Post by Opti on Aug 26, 2021 15:08:34 GMT -5
Really? So Biden is now in charge of ISIS? No, the point is ISIS owns this President. He is a lackey for them. Hell, he said they were not there along with AL Queda and that is why we could pull out. Five days later he said we had to get out because we might be attacked. He got that correct. Right from ISIS to his Intelligence people. Didn't Trump defeat ISIS?
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Post by thyme4change on Aug 26, 2021 15:25:07 GMT -5
Really? So Biden is now in charge of ISIS? No, the point is ISIS owns this President. He is a lackey for them. Hell, he said they were not there along with AL Queda and that is why we could pull out. Five days later he said we had to get out because we might be attacked. He got that correct. Right from ISIS to his Intelligence people. Didn't Biden just follow Trump’s plan - which was in writing and signed by the taliban and the Trump administration?
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Post by Opti on Aug 26, 2021 15:25:15 GMT -5
Funny how not one person in the state department, the Presidential cabinet or in the military intelligence section has resigned or been fired yet. I guess they have all been doing a great exemplary job so far. What has evolved over the last ten days would have caused any first world country to have people in power fired or had resigned in disgrace or disagreement with the Admionistration by now. Not one person has fallen on their rusty sword. No I don't think anything at all like that would happen. Its bad, no doubt. But not our country, not our choices.
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Post by Opti on Aug 26, 2021 15:27:04 GMT -5
No, the point is ISIS owns this President. He is a lackey for them. Hell, he said they were not there along with AL Queda and that is why we could pull out. Five days later he said we had to get out because we might be attacked. He got that correct. Right from ISIS to his Intelligence people. Didn't Biden just follow Trump’s plan - which was in writing and signed by the taliban and the Trump administration? Yes, but the RW wants to whine about Biden so here we are. I wish it would have gone better, but we can't go back in time and start earlier.
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Post by Tennesseer on Aug 26, 2021 15:31:50 GMT -5
Ahh, now we get to the meat of Biden's actions. This blood is on the President's hands, as well as the democratic party who knew he should never had been on the party ticket. And no, I am not doing a happy dance today. If the Taliban is in charge of the checkpoints, they let the bomber(s) through. Remember how many people said Trump would get people killed? Wrong Remember when people said Biden would lead us back to leading the world? Wrong The next 48 hours will be very important to the world, let alone for the USA. We will have to see........ Mike Pompeo on the Taliban: A timelineWhat a shame trump didn't require a peace deal between the Taliban and the Afghanistan government before he okayed a deal between the United States and the Taliban.
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Post by Tennesseer on Aug 26, 2021 15:36:54 GMT -5
I wonder if trump exchanged love letters with the leaders of the Taliban like he did with Kim Jong-un. And we all know how that relationship worked out. Trump Jokes About COVID Risk, Touts His ‘Good Relationship’ With Taliban at Alabama RallyThe Alabama Republican Party held a rally Saturday night starring former President Donald Trump, who touted his “good relationship” with the Taliban and shrugged off the risk of a COVID-19 outbreak at the massive event. After tearing into President Joe Biden for what he described as allowing “weakness in the White House,” Trump went on to boast of his chummy relations with the Taliban, who he described as “great negotiators” and “tough fighters,” insisting that “with me in office the Taliban would not have ever dreamt of capturing our air field or parading around with our American weapons.” He then appeared to suggest that more U.S. troops should perhaps be sent back to Afghanistan, where the Biden administration’s handling of a withdrawal of U.S. troops originally brokered by Trump has sparked chaos and been met with bipartisan outrage. “You know what, we have to go in and we should go in when it’s right and we now may have to be forced to go in, … we may be forced to go in, and we may not be forced, but we may be forced to go in, and if you’re not prepared to go in, you’re never going to see those 45,000 people again. If they don’t think you’re prepared to go in, you’re never going to see them again.” It was not clear which “45,000 people” Trump was referring to, but the Biden administration has said as many as 15,000 Americans remain in Afghanistan after the Taliban took over, and that U.S. troops will stay in the country until all Americans are evacuated. Trump Jokes About COVID Risk, Touts His ‘Good Relationship’ With Taliban at Alabama Rally
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Post by Tennesseer on Aug 26, 2021 15:41:34 GMT -5
Trump's former national security advisor John Bolton says it's 'impossible' for Mike Pompeo to 'rewrite history' on his negotiations with the TalibanDonald Trump's former national security advisor John Bolton criticized former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, who negotiated a deal with the Taliban in February 2020, for distancing himself from the Afghanistan withdrawal. "Trying to extricate yourself from this withdrawal is I think difficult if not impossible to do, especially to rewrite history about what actually happened," Bolton told Politico in a report published Thursday. "I think that's a prescription for Democratic attack ads that would be fatal to someone's credibility." Pompeo and Trump have come under attack over their agreement with the Taliban, which stipulated that US troops be withdrawn from Afghanistan within 14 months on the condition that the militant group not turn the country into a terrorist base. At the signing ceremony in Qatar, Pompeo posed for photos alongside the Taliban leader Abdul Ghani Baradar, who is anticipated to head the next Taliban government in Afghanistan. At the time, critics blasted the Trump administration for excluding the Afghan government, saying it undercut its legitimacy. That criticism has been renewed amid the Taliban's takeover of Afghanistan and the collapse of the US-backed Afghan government on August 15. Bolton, who served as Trump's national security advisor from 2018 to 2019, has said both the Trump administration and President Joe Biden are responsible for the chaotic, ongoing removal of US troops from Afghanistan. Other Republicans who have criticized Trump and Biden over the pullout include Reps. Adam Kinzinger of Illinois and Liz Cheney of Wyoming. H.R. McMaster, Trump's national security advisor from 2017 to 2018, denounced Trump's Taliban deal as a "surrender agreement." Pompeo and Trump have attempted to absolve themselves of the situation in Afghanistan and blamed Biden for the fallout. "I hope this Administration comes to understand that apologizing, placating, appeasing, being weak, only presents risks to American security," Pompeo tweeted on Thursday. Trump's former national security advisor John Bolton says it's 'impossible' for Mike Pompeo to 'rewrite history' on his negotiations with the Taliban
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Post by weltschmerz on Aug 26, 2021 16:39:17 GMT -5
Ahh, now we get to the meat of Biden's actions. This blood is on the President's hands, as well as the democratic party who knew he should never had been on the party ticket. And no, I am not doing a happy dance today. If the Taliban is in charge of the checkpoints, they let the bomber(s) through. Remember how many people said Trump would get people killed? Wrong Remember when people said Biden would lead us back to leading the world? Wrong The next 48 hours will be very important to the world, let alone for the USA. We will have to see........ Why don't you place the blame squarely on where it belongs? ISIS. This blood is on ISIS's and the Taliban's hands.
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Post by Value Buy on Aug 26, 2021 17:33:58 GMT -5
No, the point is ISIS owns this President. He is a lackey for them. Hell, he said they were not there along with AL Queda and that is why we could pull out. Five days later he said we had to get out because we might be attacked. He got that correct. Right from ISIS to his Intelligence people. Didn't Biden just follow Trump’s plan - which was in writing and signed by the taliban and the Trump administration? 1. Biden tore up every other thing Trump accomplished and was not worried, and this one he doesn't because Biden wanted out of there. ALL he had to do was get civilians out before the military forces. Now that was too hard to figure out, wasn't it......... 2 Taliban were held to certain requirements in Trump's agreement that if violated the agreement was void. Biden did not terminate it after the violations.
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Post by Value Buy on Aug 26, 2021 17:42:30 GMT -5
Ahh, now we get to the meat of Biden's actions. This blood is on the President's hands, as well as the democratic party who knew he should never had been on the party ticket. And no, I am not doing a happy dance today. If the Taliban is in charge of the checkpoints, they let the bomber(s) through. Remember how many people said Trump would get people killed? Wrong Remember when people said Biden would lead us back to leading the world? Wrong The next 48 hours will be very important to the world, let alone for the USA. We will have to see........ Why don't you place the blame squarely on where it belongs? ISIS. This blood is on ISIS's and the Taliban's hands. I liked your post. The problem is Biden said terrorism was defeated in Afghanistan less than two weeks ago. DUH! Biden took the military forces out before American civilianns ans the people who helped us there over the years. Not sure if Canadian news covered the American veteran groups who have tried to get the Federal Government to start evacuating Afgans who helped our fighting forces out, but here in the states it has been widely reported the state department was dragging their feet, and approvals were happening at too slow of a pace, and this has been in the news for a year here in the states. Most Americans who are now in their 60's or 70's remember the Saigon evacuation and know how fucked up that evacuation was (if you are 30 or younger you have no clue about it) and Biden promised it would not happen here just about ten days ago.......Biden today, even said he is responsible for most of what happened in the last week or so, so do not give him a pass on the blame.
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Post by Value Buy on Aug 26, 2021 17:45:31 GMT -5
Video today showing the bodies in a foot of sewer water pretty much sums up how well things were going. This is where the Afghans had to stand waiting to get into the airport yesterday. Biden's speech to the country this afternoon was warm and peaceful, but really what you expect from a politician, not a President.
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Post by djAdvocate on Aug 26, 2021 18:31:28 GMT -5
I guess the 600k dead from Covid doesn’t coun? We should have stayed in Afghanistan forever? If not, when would have been the right time? Biden is still at least 500k ahead of trump by my count Nice deflection there. We are talking 12 dead, and more than a dz injured, as well as how many Afghans...... I am sure the parents and wives, maybe husbands of the dead and injured share your "But TRUMP Comeback" Wanna blame covid on someone start with WHO and China. And then Fauci, who Trump listened too in deeds, not his comments with Fauci which were at best problamatic. if Trump defeated ISIS, like he claimed, those 12 marines would still be alive.
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Post by djAdvocate on Aug 26, 2021 18:33:01 GMT -5
Video today showing the bodies in a foot of sewer water pretty much sums up how well things were going. This is where the Afghans had to stand waiting to get into the airport yesterday. Biden's speech to the country this afternoon was warm and peaceful, but really what you expect from a politician, not a President. the "brought to justice" part sounded just like my dear old mammy reading me bedtime stories.
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Post by Spellbound454 on Aug 26, 2021 19:19:15 GMT -5
The problem is.... that Afghanistan could be turning into a jihadi state.
Lots of factions of Islamist nutters who don't like each other ..... but not as much as they don't like us.
It could become the centre for training, planning and attacking Western countries.
So..... "Its not my Country not my problem"..... could leave us open to all sorts of atrocities.
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Post by Tennesseer on Aug 26, 2021 19:54:56 GMT -5
The problem is.... that Afghanistan could be turning into a jihadi state. Lots of factions of Islamist nutters who don't like each other ..... but not as much as they don't like us. It could become the centre for training, planning and attacking Western countries. So..... "Its not my Country not my problem"..... could leave us open to all sorts of atrocities. One of the talking heads on TV stated today's bombings were a message from ISIS-K for the Americans ('We know your weak points of entry to the airport/evacuation areas) and to the Taliban who are mortal enemies of ISIS-K (We are stronger and more dangerous than you).
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Post by billisonboard on Aug 26, 2021 22:25:48 GMT -5
Terror is an amazing tool when well utilized. It pushes buttons that no other actions of individuals and small groups could hope to push. Reads like the wildest hopes of those involved in the attacks in Afghanistan are being realized. Oh well.
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Post by dondub on Aug 26, 2021 22:46:15 GMT -5
Funny how not one person in the state department, the Presidential cabinet or in the military intelligence section has resigned or been fired yet. I guess they have all been doing a great exemplary job so far. What has evolved over the last ten days would have caused any first world country to have people in power fired or had resigned in disgrace or disagreement with the Admionistration by now. Not one person has fallen on their rusty sword. Why wasn’t Reagan impeached when 267 Marines were blown up in Lebanon? What about W? How many died, well beyond the Benghazi count, in various embassies etc. You are just a cherry picking hypocrite. Your side started these fiascos and thousands died and many thousands more were maimed for life and you are going to only focus on these 12/13 and claim Biden killed them. What an asshole.
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Post by thyme4change on Aug 26, 2021 23:46:49 GMT -5
Why don't you place the blame squarely on where it belongs? ISIS. This blood is on ISIS's and the Taliban's hands. I liked your post. The problem is Biden said terrorism was defeated in Afghanistan less than two weeks ago. DUH! Biden took the military forces out before American civilianns ans the people who helped us there over the years. Not sure if Canadian news covered the American veteran groups who have tried to get the Federal Government to start evacuating Afgans who helped our fighting forces out, but here in the states it has been widely reported the state department was dragging their feet, and approvals were happening at too slow of a pace, and this has been in the news for a year here in the states. Most Americans who are now in their 60's or 70's remember the Saigon evacuation and know how fucked up that evacuation was (if you are 30 or younger you have no clue about it) and Biden promised it would not happen here just about ten days ago.......Biden today, even said he is responsible for most of what happened in the last week or so, so do not give him a pass on the blame. "Mission Accomplished" All leaders say dumb ass shit.
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Post by djAdvocate on Aug 27, 2021 1:32:00 GMT -5
Terror is an amazing tool when well utilized. It pushes buttons that no other actions of individuals and small groups could hope to push. Reads like the wildest hopes of those involved in the attacks in Afghanistan are being realized. Oh well. terrorism works. that is why it keeps happening.
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Post by djAdvocate on Aug 27, 2021 1:34:59 GMT -5
Didn't Biden just follow Trump’s plan - which was in writing and signed by the taliban and the Trump administration? 1. Biden tore up every other thing Trump accomplished let me stop you right there. the only major accomplishments I can think of were the tax cut and the SCOTUS appointments. neither of those were undone.
so, what exactly are you talking about?
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Post by dondub on Aug 27, 2021 9:41:31 GMT -5
1. Biden tore up every other thing Trump accomplished let me stop you right there. the only major accomplishments I can think of were the tax cut and the SCOTUS appointments. neither of those were undone.
so, what exactly are you talking about?
Is it Karen time? A more verifiably correct statement is that Trump was tearing up everything Obama accomplished.
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Post by hurley1980 on Aug 27, 2021 11:41:47 GMT -5
The outrage over 12 deaths is amazing. 100k people in the hospital with a preventable disease. We will have thousands dead just from that. We have republicans lying about the situation, and refusing to do anything about it. But 12 Americans have died today 1/2 a world away, and it is an outrage. Excuse me, but I find 600k dead far more outrageous than what happened today. Spare me your faux concern about American lives Get ready guys....this will be Benghazi 2.0, and there will be 450 hearings about it! 12 lives is so much worse than 600k lives, because math doesn't really matter to republicans.
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Here’s What Has Happened in Syria in the Week Since Trump Abandoned the KurdsISIS, Russia, Iran, Syria, and Turkey are happy. America’s allies are not As expected, President Trump’s decision to pull U.S. troops away from the Syria-Turkey border, effectively endorsing a Turkish assault on the U.S.-allied Kurds occupying northern Syria, has been a disaster. Trump made the call last Sunday after a phone call with Turkish President Recep Erdoğan, and without consulting the Pentagon or Congress. Less than a week later, Trump ordered the removal all U.S. troops from the region, further endangering the Kurdish people, strengthening ISIS, and ceding influence to some of America’s chief adversaries. In return, the U.S. has, to date, received nothing. Here’s what else Trump has wrought: 130,000 Kurds have been forced to flee their homes, hundreds have diedThe United Nations announced on Sunday that 130,000 Kurds have evacuated their homes as a result of the invasion, nothing that the number stands to rise as Turkey continues its assault. According to CBS News, an independent war-monitoring group in the U.K. found that as of Monday 60 civilians and more than 200 fighters (121 SDF members and 86 pro-turkey militants) have been killed as a result of the offensive. Complete article here: link
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