Do People Just Not Want To Work Anymore?

[nidena]

Apr 18, 2022 7:42:01 GMT -5 wvugurl26 said:

We have a training track for new hires. Past one class when you get to my grade there's nothing for us on a national level. My last in person course produced by work was just after my wedding and my 5th anniversary is this summer. Training past that is 100% composed of conferences and courses from outside companies.

Maybe others have a better balance or make the time anyway but when I was in the office I could absolutely go a week without seeing my boss except in passing in the hallway. It's a never ending series of fires and no one is just sitting and mentoring or training anyone.

And I find most of it be bs anyway with the way our offices are set up. The manager could be in Chicago and have 1 person in that office and the rest are scattered around the region.

Plus I haven't had a single migraine since we left the building. It's toxic. But no one will admit to that.

That's how my aunt developed Chronic Fatigue and Fibromyalgia: toxic building.

[formerroomate99]

Apr 18, 2022 7:32:01 GMT -5 azucena said:

Isn't a compromise that new hires need to be in the office during something like a 6 month probationary period plus it in person training is so much more effective.  Then, employees can demonstrate productivity and then transition to work from home.

Meanwhile, my office is going the opposite.  We could choose our hybrid schedule with manager approval.  We're struggling with 3 low performers right now.  One was actually put on performance improvement but still allowed to wfh 4 days a week.

My company went remote about a year before the pandemic. But for two years before that, it was common to see coworkers getting on a conference call with the guy in the next cube, simply because our cubes were so small that having two people in the queue with an HR violation waiting to happen. Since I’m a woman with mostly male coworkers, and I have terrible vision, getting on calls and having my coworkers share their screen with me with so much easier than going over to the next cube and trying to get close enough to their screens so that I could see what was going on without completely creeping out my coworker.

For a strictly office job, on boarding and training and mentoring and managing new people remotely is completely doable. The technology has been with us for a long time. But it is a very different animal from the office. Some managers are having a very hard time learning how to manage in this new environment.

No I have to say, when you’re trying to plan a complex project, there really is no substitute for getting everybody in the same room with a giant whiteboard.

[formerroomate99]

Apr 18, 2022 10:27:27 GMT -5 nidena said:

Apr 18, 2022 7:42:01 GMT -5 wvugurl26 said:

We have a training track for new hires. Past one class when you get to my grade there's nothing for us on a national level. My last in person course produced by work was just after my wedding and my 5th anniversary is this summer. Training past that is 100% composed of conferences and courses from outside companies.

Maybe others have a better balance or make the time anyway but when I was in the office I could absolutely go a week without seeing my boss except in passing in the hallway. It's a never ending series of fires and no one is just sitting and mentoring or training anyone.

And I find most of it be bs anyway with the way our offices are set up. The manager could be in Chicago and have 1 person in that office and the rest are scattered around the region.

Plus I haven't had a single migraine since we left the building. It's toxic. But no one will admit to that.

That's how my aunt developed Chronic Fatigue and Fibromyalgia: toxic building.

Honestly, I think most office buildings are pretty nasty. When I went remote, about a year before the pandemic, the number of times I got sick dropped by 2/3. I always thought it was my kids fault. And don’t even get me started on the allergic fits from subpar HVAC systems or having 20 years of tendinitis because I’m always working in a building that’s cold enough to hang meat.

[teen persuasion]

Apr 18, 2022 7:24:07 GMT -5 TheOtherMe said:

DN2 is not happy that he is required to go to the office 2 days a week.  He thinks people who were productive the last two years should be allowed to work from home.  Those that were not should be required to work in the office.  

He doesn't miss the social aspect of being in the office at all.  

Yes, it's about the building.  His company owns their building that has been sitting empty except for IT for 2 years.  

Funny thing is, DS2's roommate already works for Paychex (so DS2 has his own connection, if he wanted in). Roommate works in IT, and is fully remote.

[TheOtherMe]

Maybe nobody has been in the building.  I made the assumption IT was there, but maybe they were able to keep the system going remotely.  Think big bank.

[Sharon]

After doing quite a bit of online searching for some new furniture I drove a half hour to a store that supposedly had what I wanted.  Chimes rang on the door when I entered, I wandered around for quite a bit and no one seemed to be around.  I finally wandered to the back of the store and there was a man asleep behind the desk with his phone in his hand.  I spoke to him several times and he never work up.  I wandered around for a few more minutes and finally just left.

I did send the store an e-mail about my experience.