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Post by Opti on Jun 23, 2021 17:01:35 GMT -5
You were denied pension benefits? Why? DH's pension benefits, yes. Apparently since he was getting them through the disability route and not the retired in old age route, I have to wait until he would have been 55 before I can apply for them. He dropped dead at 53. Plus the UFCW Pension fund just basically sucks. And the union sucks even more. Take care of the members, my ass. They threw him under the bus so fast and so furiously, I'm still surprised he didn't have any tire treads on him. I did not realize he was so young. Are you that young too?
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Post by empress of self-improvement on Jun 23, 2021 17:07:18 GMT -5
Younger. I'm 48. There was 6 years between us. I didn't even bother looking for the union-provided life insurance. But DAMN! $500? DH did a 80-20 split where he got 80% of it while alive. I'll get the 20%. May not be huge but it would.most definitely help with my absurd credit card bill(s). Although we are back to work and I get a kitty tomorrow so I don't plan on any spending sprees. The Coalition pays the vet bills and gave me enough food and litter for months!
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Post by TheOtherMe on Jun 23, 2021 20:28:49 GMT -5
Yes, dad received a flat $500 for his pension. Good thing he and mom had social security and she had a small pension from the state of Iowa.
At least mom's pension increased with inflation.
They said they were not able to save anything towards retirement (other than the pension and SS) until after my sister and I left home. They were very good at saving once we were gone.
I do hope you enjoy the kitty.
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Post by sesfw on Jun 24, 2021 17:19:57 GMT -5
Found out today that the 3 people that came in last week for an in-house interview and job look have all declined the job offers. So they are still looking.
Job is in-town and on-call with no set hours. Small town and opportunities are slim. About 30 miles from downtown city close to us.
Perfect for a retiree that needs something to do.
Oh well ................
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2021 17:26:32 GMT -5
Found out today that the 3 people that came in last week for an in-house interview and job look have all declined the job offers. So they are still looking. Job is in-town and on-call with no set hours. Small town and opportunities are slim. About 30 miles from downtown city close to us. Perfect for a retiree that needs something to do. Oh well ................ Even a retiree might not want to work an on-call job with no set hours. How do plan to do anything when you never know when you might get called into work?
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Post by stillmovingforward on Jun 24, 2021 17:42:32 GMT -5
I wonder why no one wants the job with 3 potentials declining. Maybe look into that. Are they: Asking for too many qualifications, no set hours, pay too low, making the job seem to hard during the interview, etc.?
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Post by TheOtherMe on Jun 24, 2021 18:25:17 GMT -5
I'm a retiree. When I was still working, I would not have even applied for a position that is on call. I would have to be paid a lot of bucks to do that kind of work at any age.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jun 24, 2021 19:09:33 GMT -5
Found out today that the 3 people that came in last week for an in-house interview and job look have all declined the job offers. So they are still looking. Job is in-town and on-call with no set hours. Small town and opportunities are slim. About 30 miles from downtown city clo LLPse to us. Perfect for a retiree that needs something to do. Oh well ................ Why would I work a job where I have to be available at all times just in case you call? You'd have to have one hell of a compensation package to convince me to accept. Otherwise I'm going to keep looking for a stable schedule. An on call job is not going to provide the ROI needed to support a house. That or I'd take it to get income and look to leave as fast as I could. Like six months or less. Since you can't offer me regular hours it's likely you aren't so busy you'll miss me. Retired people might like to have a life not chained to the phone. Not knowing when or how much you'll be working at any given time makes it hard to schedule things like doctor appointments. It would be one thing if I could work independent at home on my own schedule. Its another if you want me to be constantly available to drive 30 minutes for whatever piddling amount of hours you decide to give me. When I retire I'm done playing those games. I hopefully won't have to. I can finally work 100% on my own terms. People are leaving the service industry in droves because of this practice. Why would yours be any different? Maybe it's time to reexamine what you're offering in exchange for the hours.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jun 25, 2021 7:30:56 GMT -5
I was thinking more about this yesterday. We are struggling to find people here. It's understood that microbiology is a unique skill set, former manager knew this would be a challenge and keep her mind really open/flexible to what she counted as "microbiology" and looked also at other things. Like in my case I have protein work experience which they really really needed to replace AND I had at least seen an agar plate and had handled bacteria ordered from Sigma.
That was a start and she rolled with it.
Our current manger however has delusions of grandeur. He was talking about his expectations to fill the current two openings and I kinda started to get offended because he was acting like someone like me could just not possibly do this job. I wanted to raise my hand and go "Umm. ..how about you take a look at my resume hmm?" There is no way in hell he would have hired me I am clearly too stupid and underqualified. Though I would like to see anyone else deal with the shit I've dealt with and still work here.
So to fill S's position he keeps sending us resumes from people who have degrees in bioinformatics, graduate degrees, the one chick even had a DVM on top of it. We were asked our views and I said "She does realize how very basic the bench work we do is right?" These women's resumes were amazing they could get hired pretty much anywhere they want. No way in hell they are coming here for around $40k a year when even the university pays $75-$80k TO START for their skill sets.
Plus they are getting an inaccurate idea of what we do based on the job description. I came from academia where I have regularly worked with stuff that is practically held together with duct tape and a prayer because we don't have the grant money to replace it and even I experienced culture shock walking in here. I joked with DH that this is the type of company that if it wasn't an OSHA violation they'd probably have me in pantyhose and a skirt every day. B joked he expected to see someone smoking a cigarette working on the bench. That's how outdated we are here.
No young person with the kind of qualifications he's looking for are going to want to work here, at least not for very long. I think he's got it in his head that they will stay and make this place the state of the art lab he envisions it. Well with how far back in the 20th century we are, the low pay AND no raises there is no a chance in hell people are going to stick around the 5 or more years it will take to reach his vision. Not when they can go places that are already state of the art and double/triple their salary.
It's a basic entry level tech job and he needs to look at resumes of people who have those skills. They are presenting it as this grand Molecular Genetics job which it is not. He needs to look at people like me who want to get out of academics for stability or older techs who want a place to settle till they retire. No young 20 something with a bioinformatics degree looking to get into management in 5 years is going to work here for what they want to pay.
Considering these young women's resumes I very much doubt it's they have decided they don't want to work. It's the expectations of the manager are totally out of line with reality. I wonder how many other jobs that are going unfilled if you really examined what they want vs the reality of the position aren't lining up. People can afford right now to be picky and if I have an in demand skill set you bet your booty if I can pay my bills with UE I am not taking the first shit job offered.
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Post by giramomma on Jun 25, 2021 8:06:53 GMT -5
Here's my salty rant for the day: Some people WITH jobs don't even want to work. Why don't we have pitchforks out for them?
Since April, I have now played the chemo/cancer card at least 3 times to motivate people to start working on known projects. Otherwise, they would be dragging their feet doing whatever the heck they felt like. I mean, if you are a high level professional with a couple of degrees behind your name, should you really need to be guilted to do your f*cking job within a reasonable time frame? ETA: I suppose the response would be that it's better for employers to pay to fully employ useless people than to have more unemployed folks on the government's dime.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jun 25, 2021 8:08:20 GMT -5
Here's my salty rant for the day: Some people WITH jobs don't even want to work. Why don't we have pitchforks out for them?
Since April, I have now played the chemo/cancer card at least 3 times to motivate people to start working on known projects. Otherwise, they would be dragging their feet doing whatever the heck they felt like. I mean, if you are a high level professional with a couple of degrees behind your name, should you really need to be guilted to do your f*cking job within a reasonable time frame? Preach it sister!
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Post by gambler on Jun 25, 2021 16:08:09 GMT -5
Show how bad things are getting. Got a call from some one I worked for 20 years ago, left on very, very bad terms ask if I wanted to work for him again. Cash not going to happen
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Post by sesfw on Jun 25, 2021 19:11:14 GMT -5
Actually this on-call job is great for me. I know the prior day if I'm needed, and can decline at any time. I go in at a set time, 7:30, and get off at a set time, 12:30. so that's about 25 hrs per week.
This week DH had Dr appt so one day I didn't go in at all. No weekends, evenings. It's light assembly of electronic parts and extremely flexible. I fill in for testing if a rush order needs to go, and I've packed for shipping. For a while I was doing inventory for shipping supplies. One day a month I do volunteer work for the town so that day is a scheduled day off.
Wide variety of things to do.
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Post by teen persuasion on Jun 25, 2021 22:25:27 GMT -5
Talking about how bad things are: DH mentioned they are so short staffed that teachers are pulling a second shift (for extra pay) as cottage staff. They can't find people to hire as cottage staff, because they pay minimum - $12.50 here. Fast food is offering $15 or $16/hr.
Of course, they are short on teachers, too. They aren't hiring another English teacher to replace him.
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Post by Opti on Jun 26, 2021 2:25:37 GMT -5
Younger. I'm 48. There was 6 years between us. I didn't even bother looking for the union-provided life insurance. But DAMN! $500? DH did a 80-20 split where he got 80% of it while alive. I'll get the 20%. May not be huge but it would.most definitely help with my absurd credit card bill(s). Although we are back to work and I get a kitty tomorrow so I don't plan on any spending sprees. The Coalition pays the vet bills and gave me enough food and litter for months! You've been through a lot. Because of his health conditions I had thought he was older. But I have worked in healthcare for over a decade now. I have seen things. Congrats on the kitty. I've worked the entire pandemic in person. I think when I looked it up, I chose to rescue skinny pig Moon shadow on Feb 1st or 2nd in 2020.
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Post by bean29 on Jun 27, 2021 23:49:54 GMT -5
I told my DH this am, I was going to do my Insurance CE credits. We did a bunch of other stuff today, and I didn’t even turn my computer on until after 9 pm. I bought a 24 credit course and completed 17 credits tonight. 7 to go. You don’t need a proctor through the end of June, b/c of the Pandemic. I think I can get the rest done by Wed. I don’t actually need to have them done until January.
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Post by Ava on Jun 28, 2021 7:43:39 GMT -5
I told my DH this am, I was going to do my Insurance CE credits. We did a bunch of other stuff today, and I didn’t even turn my computer on until after 9 pm. I bought a 24 credit course and completed 17 credits tonight. 7 to go. You don’t need a proctor through the end of June, b/c of the Pandemic. I think I can get the rest done by Wed. I don’t actually need to have them done until January. Are you thinking of going to work with your husband?
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Post by thyme4change on Jun 28, 2021 11:24:16 GMT -5
Here's my salty rant for the day: Some people WITH jobs don't even want to work. Why don't we have pitchforks out for them?
Since April, I have now played the chemo/cancer card at least 3 times to motivate people to start working on known projects. Otherwise, they would be dragging their feet doing whatever the heck they felt like. I mean, if you are a high level professional with a couple of degrees behind your name, should you really need to be guilted to do your f*cking job within a reasonable time frame? ETA: I suppose the response would be that it's better for employers to pay to fully employ useless people than to have more unemployed folks on the government's dime.
I'm guessing with Miss T, she would be disgusted by anyone who doesn't work hard, but those that are on government assistance are a collective problem, whereas a corporation should take care of their problem children. Although, if corporations did a mass evaluation and canned every below average employee, we would have a big ass collective problem. I had a friend who said "Always remember, half the people are below average." Maybe we just need to accept that either (a) not everyone can be above average and (b) everyone may be better than average at something, but maybe not the part that you are interacting with. Maybe those people bring value in other areas, but don't have the right skill or time for your project. Or maybe you just have suck-ass people. Maybe we just have a skewed version of average. Maybe corporations have taken employee efficiency too far and the collective burn-out is working against production. It is hard to tell.
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Post by souldoubt on Jun 28, 2021 12:11:18 GMT -5
Every company has people who don't pull their weight and that's on the company to rectify or continue to let it happen and watch some employees that do pull their weight resent the situation. There aren't pitchforks out for those individuals because that rest of society isn't really having to deal with it. We've been working remotely for over 15 months now and have certain positions that were based around physically being in an office. The people in these positions have been working remotely and getting paid but you can see the difference between the attitude and drive of some of them. One of them constantly does things that has the rest of us scratching our heads. She has scheduled calls during the week and more than once on those calls when someone would ask her to send a file or find something on the network she told them she'd have to do it later because she's on a walk, not at her computer, etc. Common sense would say that while working remotely when you have scheduled meetings you're available to work.
I needed her help with something that was straight forward that she's one of about four people who can setup and what should have taken 10 minutes turned into hours as I had to follow up because she either doesn't know what she's doing or she half-assed it and didn't close the loop. Other individuals in the same position as her have stepped up and asked what other work they can do and I know in a few months they're going to realize that paid off when she's looking for a new job. We also have people higher up the food chain who seem to be checked out at times but this really isn't any different than before we started working remotely. I'm not happy about it but unless someone is a direct report to me I have no control over it and it's not worth me stressing out over.
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Post by jerseygirl on Jun 28, 2021 13:36:35 GMT -5
Three young guys have been cutting trees down in 90 * with 70% humidity for the last 61/2 hours with another hour to go Gave them $60 to buy some cold beer So they’re working!!
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Post by bean29 on Jun 28, 2021 16:17:58 GMT -5
I told my DH this am, I was going to do my Insurance CE credits. We did a bunch of other stuff today, and I didn’t even turn my computer on until after 9 pm. I bought a 24 credit course and completed 17 credits tonight. 7 to go. You don’t need a proctor through the end of June, b/c of the Pandemic. I think I can get the rest done by Wed. I don’t actually need to have them done until January. Are you thinking of going to work with your husband? Not really. I just figured out many eons ago that if DH Dropped dead, he owns the agency, and I would inherit it. You can't collect commissions if you are not Licensed, so I got my license. I am licensed in Property, Casualty, Life and Health. Both our kids also have licenses. DS works FT for DH. DD works PT for DH and Supposedly she is a PT employee for an airline. They are Short Handed, so there is "No such thing as PT," she is really FT right now). If I would work for DH I would do the books and probably perform clerical functions. He is a Captive agent (Can only sell for one company), is considered self employed, and has no benefits...So I will try to get employment elsewhere so I have access to group health insurance. DH makes good $$, so if I had to make just the one income work, and pay out of pocket for insurance, it would hurt, but we can do it. Right now nearly 100% of my check goes to taxes/HSA/401K/Roth, so it is not the loss of the income that would hurt so much, but we would need to find $$ for retirement investments and Health Insurance Coverage until we turn 65.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2021 16:39:24 GMT -5
And here's a good reason why "nobody wants" to work: DGD just applied for a job at a shop in a mall near here. The pay is $7.25/hr and a 1% commission on each $100 in sales. What? In order to make $10.25/hr, she'd have to sell $300 in merchanise/hr. Not in that little specialty shop for sure! It's hard to imagine that they can even squeeze out enough to pay the rent.
Can people really afford to get up and get dressed in the morning for $7.25/hour?
Deutsche Bank foreclosed on this mall last fall, offered it at auction and had no bidders. One anchor store, Sears, closed, and the others, JCP, Macy's, Belk, are not doing well. It must cost a fortune to keep them open. DD said it felt like the a/c was all directed to the stores that are still open because the common areas were hot and stuffy. As they were leaving, a hat shop (hat shop!) was pulling down its gates and closing for the day. At 4:30.
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Post by Opti on Jun 28, 2021 17:05:16 GMT -5
And here's a good reason why "nobody wants" to work: DGD just applied for a job at a shop in a mall near here. The pay is $7.25/hr and a 1% commission on each $100 in sales. What? In order to make $10.25/hr, she'd have to sell $300 in merchanise/hr. Not in that little specialty shop for sure! It's hard to imagine that they can even squeeze out enough to pay the rent. Can people really afford to get up and get dressed in the morning for $7.25/hour? Deutsche Bank foreclosed on this mall last fall, offered it at auction and had no bidders. One anchor store, Sears, closed, and the others, JCP, Macy's, Belk, are not doing well. It must cost a fortune to keep them open. DD said it felt like the a/c was all directed to the stores that are still open because the common areas were hot and stuffy. As they were leaving, a hat shop (hat shop!) was pulling down its gates and closing for the day. At 4:30. Sounds like Deutsche Bank owns that property, so it would be like banks owning foreclosed properties. If they can't find a buyer, they do minimal maintenance to keep it in sellable condition. My guess is most tenant stores are working on their exit strategy, their own BKs, or new lease arrangements elsewhere. Does not sound like fun.
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Post by Ava on Jun 28, 2021 17:53:11 GMT -5
I stopped by Walmart today and they had a sign out. It offered prospective employees health insurance, tuition assistance and some other benefits. I hope this is not just a "gimmick" and they start offering good benefits. Around here, every restaurant and retail store has a Help Wanted sign. I even got a flyer in the mail from Amazon looking for employees. I should do it part time, Amazon would pay me to move and I'm very sedentary right now.
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Post by Opti on Jun 28, 2021 23:27:11 GMT -5
I went to the Mall to look at a phone case which it turned out is no longer displayed in the store. The Mall still has different hours. Because of the heat warning I left to go there later than planned. Several anchor stores closed at 7PM but most of the Mall stores were open another hour. ETA- I forgot to add Apple was not looking for any PT people. Sounded like not all those pre-pandemic people have been offered jobs back yet. I think grocery and clothing retail are probably those looking the most besides food places.
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Post by justme on Jun 29, 2021 0:29:44 GMT -5
Found out today that the 3 people that came in last week for an in-house interview and job look have all declined the job offers. So they are still looking. Job is in-town and on-call with no set hours. Small town and opportunities are slim. About 30 miles from downtown city close to us. Perfect for a retiree that needs something to do. Oh well ................ Even a retiree might not want to work an on-call job with no set hours. How do plan to do anything when you never know when you might get called into work? Right? That'd be my worst nightmare for a retired gig.
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Post by TheOtherMe on Jul 3, 2021 7:42:23 GMT -5
I do think a lot of people decided they were just done and retired.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2021 7:53:16 GMT -5
I stopped by Walmart today and they had a sign out. It offered prospective employees health insurance, tuition assistance and some other benefits. I hope this is not just a "gimmick" and they start offering good benefits. <snip> I even got a flyer in the mail from Amazon looking for employees. I should do it part time, Amazon would pay me to move and I'm very sedentary right now. I think Wal-Mart does offer decent benefits if you're FT- the trick is getting them to bring you on FT. Before you think of working at Amazon, read (or watch) "Nomadland". There's a giant group of retirees who travel around in vans, campers, etc. and get jobs wherever they can, many at Amazon warehouses. It's VERY hard work. One guy wore a Fitbit and found he'd walked 18 miles in a day. They won't be able to do that indefinitely- it beats your body up.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Jul 3, 2021 10:25:06 GMT -5
Our entire purchasing department will be gone in a couple months because the two people who are the entire department are retiring. They can't find new people because the way these two have ran things for the past 20 years is so outdated and "their way" people aren't interested. Not when they can go elsewhere and work in the 21st century and not deal with control freaks. The boasting the company does about being full of lifers is starting to backfire and they are finding young people don't want to be stuck in a time warp. This isn't uncommon around here. The city can't figure out why they can't get people to move here and young people are leaving in droves. Well maybe if companies came out of the 1950s
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