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Post by Ryan on May 6, 2021 15:11:26 GMT -5
finance.yahoo.com/news/jamie-dimon-on-virtual-work-131717513.html?soc_src=social-sh&soc_trk=maNot super surprising that Jamie Dimon thinks everyone should be back in the office. We still haven't received official word, but I am assuming it'll probably be some kind of hybrid approach with like 2 days in the office per week. Personally, I'd like 1 day per week but we'll see how it goes. I do like being in person for meetings, but I just find it's so much more difficult to concentrate with all the interuptions and watercooler chat when you're in the office. How bout everyone else?
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Post by Miss Tequila on May 6, 2021 15:20:14 GMT -5
finance.yahoo.com/news/jamie-dimon-on-virtual-work-131717513.html?soc_src=social-sh&soc_trk=maNot super surprising that Jamie Dimon thinks everyone should be back in the office. We still haven't received official word, but I am assuming it'll probably be some kind of hybrid approach with like 2 days in the office per week. Personally, I'd like 1 day per week but we'll see how it goes. I do like being in person for meetings, but I just find it's so much more difficult to concentrate with all the interuptions and watercooler chat when you're in the office. How bout everyone else? I think there is no reason why people do not return to the office. Anyone that wants a vaccine can now get one. Having said that, I think company's have learned that people can be effective and efficient while working from home. Admittedly, I did not like working from home when I was working. I do think you lose something working remotely. It could also be my personality.
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Post by Tiny on May 6, 2021 15:25:08 GMT -5
The official word was "enjoy your summer". The "official" office rumor is no call back until September at the earliest. What this interprets to is: highly unlikely that everyone will be called back to the office en masse during the "summer" - May/June/July. Quite possible that more people will be in the office as the summer progresses. Quite possible with "phase ins" of people returning to the office - we will ALL be back in the Office soon after September 1st. I'm not sure what "in the office" will look like. We do have a WFH one day a week policy (which pre pandemic I didn't bother taking - the office got quieter once everyone else started doing it - I also do NOT have the correct employer issued hardware for WFH. ) I WILL be applying for the WFH 1 day a week thing - provide it doesn't mess with my current hardware setup at work (Moving all my custom stuff to a "firm standard" PC isn't going to be easy - and it all goes away 1st Quarter 2022 as do I ) I highly doubt we will get more than a 1 day a week WFH... FWIW: I really LIKE not having to breathe air that has been in other people's lungs. Even if they have been vaccinated - I really don't want to be breathing their air.
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Post by busymom on May 6, 2021 15:30:13 GMT -5
DD's organization is gradually bringing people back to the office. This month, beginning this week, it'll be once a week, June it'll move up to twice a week, then if folks there stay healthy, they'll figure out their next step. The only problem is, a number of people actually preferred working from home. So, it'll be interesting to see what happens in future months.
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Post by Lizard Queen on May 6, 2021 15:31:43 GMT -5
We're going to have a permanent option to WFH. If I lived closer to work, I might prefer going in, but WFH saves me an hour and a half each day, which gives me more time & energy to do more work if needed.
But, being in Michigan, and a safety culture place at that, they're not in a hurry to bring anyone back. In fact, I need permission to go into the office.
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Post by Miss Tequila on May 6, 2021 15:35:16 GMT -5
We're going to have a permanent option to WFH. If I lived closer to work, I might prefer going in, but WFH saves me an hour and a half each day, which gives me more time energy to do more work if needed. But, being in Michigan, and a safety culture place at that, they're not in a hurry to bring anyone back. In fact, I need permission to go into the office. I would definitely WFH if I had that kind of commute. I just know when I was working from home in the height of the pandemic while the others were in the office, I just felt like I wasn’t part of the team. We would use teams to get me in the meetings but it wasn’t the same. Quick chats no longer included me because I wasn’t there.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on May 6, 2021 15:37:01 GMT -5
DH's company at the moment is looking at three days in office, two days home. They found that they actually did better sales and were more productive at home but there are some things that work better in the office.
I have been on site since day 1 so I have no opinions on WFH. I will say that I would LOVE to be able to keep doing Teams meetings. I don't have a microphone/camera so instead of having to sit in an office listening to people drone on for 2 hours I can listen to people drone on for 2 hours at my desk while getting stuff done around it.
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Post by taz157 on May 6, 2021 15:44:36 GMT -5
There hasn’t an official word on when we return. They’ve just said they are 2 months or so away from making a decision. I’m guessing sometime in late summer or early fall. I’ll be on maternity leave then (assuming everything goes according to plan). I anticipate having to go in 1 or 2 days a week when we return. From what I heard, we won’t be required to everyday.
Right now, I go in about twice a month to check my mailbox (nobody wants to deal with taxes) and mail what I need to, if anything, with the checks.
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Post by nidena on May 6, 2021 15:57:29 GMT -5
Been working in the office five days a week since I got hired in September.
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Post by Cheesy FL-Vol on May 6, 2021 16:27:57 GMT -5
finance.yahoo.com/news/jamie-dimon-on-virtual-work-131717513.html?soc_src=social-sh&soc_trk=maNot super surprising that Jamie Dimon thinks everyone should be back in the office. We still haven't received official word, but I am assuming it'll probably be some kind of hybrid approach with like 2 days in the office per week. Personally, I'd like 1 day per week but we'll see how it goes. I do like being in person for meetings, but I just find it's so much more difficult to concentrate with all the interuptions and watercooler chat when you're in the office. How bout everyone else? I think there is no reason why people do not return to the office. Anyone that wants a vaccine can now get one. Having said that, I think company's have learned that people can be effective and efficient while working from home. Admittedly, I did not like working from home when I was working. I do think you lose something working remotely. It could also be my personality. Personality is a part of it I think. I am an introvert and I have a technical job. I hate office politics & gossip. I have worked remotely for nearly 5 years now. I am disciplined enough to be very productive. I love not being micromanaged and being a relatively self-sufficient employee. That said, in spite of this being a perfect scenario for me, there ARE times that it would be beneficial to be able to sit down with my manager in person to ask questions. However I also am a highly effective at communicating without ever getting on the phone, so I make it work.
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Post by souldoubt on May 6, 2021 17:11:01 GMT -5
Our new office space can only accommodate about half of us at any given time so once we are back we'll be working 2-3 days a week in the office and those of us that don't have offices will be using shared spaces. I expect we'll be back in the office early in Q3 since the vaccine just became available in our state three weeks ago to the last group of working age individuals. I know the UC and state schools are going to require students coming back be vaccinated but not sure how it will play out with employers. I know some people who are very adamant about not being back in an enclosed space with people who refuse to get the vaccine and I don't blame them.
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Post by giramomma on May 6, 2021 17:19:00 GMT -5
"They" want folks back face-to-face by September. However, that's for customer facing jobs (ie, professors teaching). I do not face the external customers. I've also been at my job for 20 years, so I've solidified working relationships with internal stakeholders. I don't need to be in the same room with folks to bond with them, anymore.
We are also absorbing more entities into our organization. Which means, more demands on the limited space we have.
In a broader look, there are two campus buildings, one not to far from us, that are literally falling apart and have been closed down for repairs. It is possible that folks from the building that's a block away from ours could be shuffled to ours, if the repairs don't hold or new issues crop up. So, at least for me, there are other issues at play that just the pandemic that will impact how much I work remotely.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2021 17:36:59 GMT -5
Our financial advisor said last week that he's unsure what his firm will do going forward. He sees no need to return to a physical space, nor does his staff. Client satisfaction ratings and revenues have met or exceeded pre-Covid levels, staff is waaaay happy not to have the daily commute, so why fix what ain't broke?
As a client, I feel our relationships are better and more rewarding financially. Our interactions are much better because the person I'm talking too hasn't spent an hour in the traffic from hell, the company has made online transactions much easier so I'm not spending an hour and $25.00 at FedEx faxing paper, etc.
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Post by movingforward on May 6, 2021 17:38:04 GMT -5
We are back in the office 2 days per week, and "as needed." I like in-person staff meetings and the company provides lunch. This system seems to work well.
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Post by grumpyhermit on May 6, 2021 19:04:17 GMT -5
We're back in the office, full-time, as of July 1. There has been some talk about "phasing in" between now and then as people are vaccinated but we have received no details or concrete expectations. I am going to WFH up until they order me back to the office. I am not looking forward to going back. For the most part I have really enjoyed being able to WFH and am going to miss it.
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Post by Cookies Galore on May 6, 2021 19:25:48 GMT -5
We are not returning to the office until after September 7. We are going to a flexible workplace policy when we do return to the office. You can choose to be mostly at home, mostly in the office, or a hybrid. I'm leaning toward one day a week in the office, so I can get out of my house and I miss all the restaurants near work. Before the pandemic I worked from home twice a week and figured when we returned I'd like to work three at home and two on the office, but now I'm down to wanting to be there once a week, haha. My employer has to be saving so much money with all of us at home. They provided a transportation benefit, so for the past year they haven't been paying for monthly transit passes or leasing an entire floor of a parking garage. Add in not hosting client dinners, no catered lunches for meetings, no fancy hotel rooms for our volunteers docs. Gotta be saving some decent money.
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Post by wvugurl26 on May 6, 2021 19:41:15 GMT -5
I'm thinking it will be 1 day a week in the office. People in regional offices were already working from home two days a week. My office was only allowed one day for dumb reasons. The policy will be expanded when we return and it will be one policy for all.
Yes, it's nice sometimes to talk to coworkers but not enough to deal with the hassle. It was a 2 hour round trip in stressful traffic. Also the building was giving me migraines and making other coworkers sick.
We will not return until 2022. It's in writing from HR that we remain in maximum telework for the remainder of 2021.
I will also say I think it's different when everyone is doing it. Before when it was a one or two day a week thing, some people did feel left out at times. When everyone is at home, you have to make an effort to schedule those meetings and chats. I think now we have adapted and it will be fine going forward.
I also question whether we keep our office space. I could see that space being returned to the agency that primarily occupies the building. We also must have permission to go into our offices for contact tracing purposes.
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Post by NastyWoman on May 6, 2021 19:43:19 GMT -5
They are bringing people back into the offices in stages. I would fall into the k last group and will request a 2 day per week in office situation. As I have a huge office to myself it is quite safe for me to be there but I just don't want to deal with the commute anymore. Going in a few times a week will allow me time to get the room ready for my successor. I have not told them yet but I intend to retire between my birthday and the week before TG.
The reason I am keeping this to myself is to protect my job in case the situation goes "all India" on us due to mutations of the virus. Looking out for number one here.
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Post by jeffreymo on May 6, 2021 19:55:45 GMT -5
We’re definitely hearing a different message regarding a return to the office. Now it’s looking like we’ll have half the office return in June and full return in August. No more mention of a hybrid environment or that some positions will stay at home - only things will be different without elaboration.
3-4 months ago I was convinced that my role would be permanent WFH, but now I’m guessing not.
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Post by minnesotapaintlady on May 6, 2021 20:16:01 GMT -5
June 16th is D-Day for all those still at home at my company. We're doing phenomenally production wise, but they really can't manage the security issues with everyone at home. I mean, I have assembly docs for military devices printed out at home where in theory anyone could be looking at them. At work they couldn't leave the area where only US citizens are allowed.
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Post by Tiny on May 6, 2021 20:33:30 GMT -5
June 16th is D-Day for all those still at home at my company. We're doing phenomenally production wise, but they really can't manage the security issues with everyone at home. I mean, I have assembly docs for military devices printed out at home where in theory anyone could be looking at them. At work they couldn't leave the area where only US citizens are allowed. I think the security (data, reports, etc) is the main reason there won't be a "no need for an office building filled with offices and cubes" movement any time soon. I suspect at some point we're gonna hear about some fraud or insider trading or some stolen something that has occurred because of a worker at home had a skeevy friend or relative who "stole" and used info they should never have had access to for their own gain.
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Post by wvugurl26 on May 6, 2021 20:43:21 GMT -5
There was massive insider trading off someone leaking the yearly Medicare Part C rates before they were officially announced a few years ago. They were never able to trace it back to the source. This was when most people were in the office. The advance notices are full of watermarks and disclaimers after that.
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Post by imawino on May 6, 2021 20:47:27 GMT -5
We had just made the announcement that we would not consider re-opening until after Labor Day, and then the vaccine situation seemingly turned around overnight. But I don't know that I see a reason to change our position. We could decide to reopen a little more flexibly for people who want to go in (right now we very strictly limit the # of people in the office at any given time and you have to get permission) but I don't see us forcing people to come back if they aren't comfortable.
When we do fully reopen, we will never have everyone back full time. We've always allowed some degree of working from home and it will expand. I don't know exactly what I will do.
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Post by steph08 on May 6, 2021 20:53:44 GMT -5
We just had a meeting this week about returning to the office. No one is required to return prior to Labor Day. After Labor Day, they are asking everyone to return three days a week or fill out the paperwork for a different schedule.
We are different though, with offices across the country. We have 7 people on our team, and only one of them is in the same office as me. I got a new boss 2.5 years ago and have never met him in person, along with the other 5 team members!
Being at the office or being at home really makes no difference to my work. I do miss going to the town I work in to shop though! Haha! But that is committing myself to driving two hours that day when I don't really need to.
I might return one day a week, but I'm not sure yet. I would like to do four 10-hour days, but I think that wouldn't work well. I might do 9 days/40 hours though with a day off every other week. Plus still work from home most of the time.
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Post by Sharon on May 6, 2021 20:59:27 GMT -5
We are being divided into 3 groups, permanent work from work, hybrid, and full time in office. This is being decided based on jobs titles/responsibilities. Most of the full time in office have been in the office the entire time. They spread them throughout the building so they could have maximum distance. I have been slotted into the permanent work from home group.
Once the office has been fully reconfigured etc there will be some hotel cubicles for those who wish to come in once in a while to work. We were also told that if we were permanent work from home and were required to come in for some reason we would be paid mileage.
They don't seem to be in any hurry to be bringing people back.
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Post by empress of self-improvement on May 6, 2021 21:07:52 GMT -5
I've back in the office since last July. I took a completely unwanted week off at the end of the month but I have been there since. It's kept me from killing myself. And the damn cat who won't shut up!!!!!
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Post by wvugurl26 on May 6, 2021 21:25:56 GMT -5
steph08 I work the 9/40 schedule. It's nice to get those extra days off. It really adds up over the year. And the one day where I only work 8 instead of 9 is a treat. I think 4/10s would be too rough. Also I didn't mention while my supervisor is in my office and a few team members, we primarily work with people all over the country in different offices. I only worked 6 hours today and I dealt with people in DC, Arkansas, Iowa, Missouri, California, New York, New Jersey and Illinois. I much prefer being at home. I can do what I need to do. If I have a bunch of meetings, I'm not worried about disturbing my coworkers by being on the phone talking all day long.
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Post by Ryan on May 6, 2021 22:21:34 GMT -5
finance.yahoo.com/news/jamie-dimon-on-virtual-work-131717513.html?soc_src=social-sh&soc_trk=maNot super surprising that Jamie Dimon thinks everyone should be back in the office. We still haven't received official word, but I am assuming it'll probably be some kind of hybrid approach with like 2 days in the office per week. Personally, I'd like 1 day per week but we'll see how it goes. I do like being in person for meetings, but I just find it's so much more difficult to concentrate with all the interuptions and watercooler chat when you're in the office. How bout everyone else? I think there is no reason why people do not return to the office. Anyone that wants a vaccine can now get one. Having said that, I think company's have learned that people can be effective and efficient while working from home. Admittedly, I did not like working from home when I was working. I do think you lose something working remotely. It could also be my personality. I don't know if there is really no reason. There are parents that have kids that might not be in school full-time. Even if they were, they still have to figure out daycare situations for before/after school. Maybe some parents are a little uneasy about putting their kids in daycare without an option for vaccine for kids. For me, I got a taste of how great it is to be working from home and really would never want to go back if I could avoid it. I do miss chit chatting with people at the office here and there, but being there everyday is just a time killer. I know a lot of people think there is a lot of good that comes from spontaneous conversations in the office, but I think the opposite. I think that people need to break up the day, so they walk around and chat with other people as a way to get through the day. I do think it's important for the culture of the company to be in the office, but I think 1x per week is more than sufficient.
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Post by resolution on May 6, 2021 23:05:37 GMT -5
We are transitioning to permanent full time telecommute for our non-customer facing positions. We are cancelling leases as they come up for renewal and are consolidating the locations that work directly with customers. My employer has been spending $33 million per year on leases and anticipates reducing it to $22 million due to all the telecommuters. They are very happy with everyone's productivity at home and want to make the savings permanent.
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Post by azucena on May 7, 2021 7:00:13 GMT -5
My company has said Sept at the earliest, in part to allow parents to make summer plans accordingly. They also explicitly said no one will be forced to return in 2021. Both long term heads up were much appreciated.
We had some folks wfh/remote prior. We will have a broader option to wfh in 2022. I, myself, will take a split. I'm wondering how that will work best - meaning will I never cross paths in person with folks who wfh different days than me. If someone comes up with a good plan, let us know. My company is soliciting feedback.
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