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Post by Tiny on May 6, 2021 11:51:21 GMT -5
No it’s not. You obviously didn’t read the thread, or are just being dumb. Killing unarmed protesters is never ok. If shouts were fired down at the White House, I’d be calling Green for the prosecution of the cops. Shooting someone who is in the midst of storming the capital abs was part of a violent mob who cause injury to the officers is expected. I was obviously rebutting spells post. It was an unarmed woman crawling through a broken window.
What could she possibly do to a police officer with taser and gun and billy club ? She was part of an angry mob calling for the deaths of various politicians AND who were violently breaking into the Capitol. She was at the front of the mob and as you have pointed out crawled through a window broken by the mob. She doesn't exactly seem like an innocent bystander accidentally hit by a bullet shot at someone more violent at the front of the mob. Are you suggesting, perhaps, that she was "innocent and unaware of the danger" because she was manipulated by the mob and being used as "meat shield" - someone who might get a "pass" from the security within and who if hurt or killed could be touted as "an innocent was killed!!!" while the people who were out to bad things could follow once the "wall was breached" and avoid the most dangerous parts of "storming the Capitol"? And that is why she suffered a "wrongful" death?
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Post by billisonboard on May 6, 2021 11:56:04 GMT -5
Killed for beating on a door ? This is ok ? She was one of many persons involved in a violent invasion of the US Capital.
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Post by billisonboard on May 6, 2021 12:02:05 GMT -5
It was one of many persons involved in a violent invasion of the US Capital. It was a peaceful protest by BLM standards. Killed for crawling through a window ? What about a tazer ? It was a violent invasion of the US Capital.
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Post by Tiny on May 6, 2021 12:05:46 GMT -5
I have to admit - I find it just a tiny bit odd that specifically a former military person would think that they would be welcomed with open arms when they were part of what surely looked and felt like a treasonous act. Even if they felt it was done in 'good faith' and the 'right thing to do' - how do you NOT recognize the dangers of committing such an act?
Was not part of their job "to protect America"? And I can see where "overthrowing the Government" could be seen from their point of view as "protecting America". BUT, would they just simply believe or consider that the people inside the Capitol would ALSO be "protecting America" and would attack back when attacked?
I have to admit I find all of this bewildering.... and it gives credibility to the "there are two Americas"
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Post by Tiny on May 6, 2021 12:07:46 GMT -5
It was one of many persons involved in a violent invasion of the US Capital. It was a peaceful protest by BLM standards.
Killed for crawling through a window ? What about a tazer ? OK, now you've moved into comedy. LOL!!! You are loosing your trolling touch. Are you feeling ok? Is everything OK with you? This is uncharacteristic. (I hear there's a new edition of the Acme "How to be an Internet Troll" manual. maybe you should check it out.)
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Post by Lizard Queen on May 6, 2021 12:08:34 GMT -5
Just her alone? Shooting her is probably excessive. Shooting her as part of the mob chanting hang mike peace that was breaking in and already hurt officers? Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Frankly if she came to my house at chanting she was going to kill someone at my house and broke in through a window I would have shot her too. Was a mob coming through the window, or just an easily tasered woman. This is different for me, taking the side against trigger happy cops. You might ask yourself the question, why is that?
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Post by billisonboard on May 6, 2021 12:10:38 GMT -5
Just her alone? Shooting her is probably excessive. Shooting her as part of the mob chanting hang mike peace that was breaking in and already hurt officers? Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Frankly if she came to my house at chanting she was going to kill someone at my house and broke in through a window I would have shot her too. Was a mob coming through the window, or just an easily tasered woman. This is different for me, taking the side against trigger happy cops.
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Post by Tiny on May 6, 2021 12:19:14 GMT -5
OK, now you've moved into comedy. LOL!!! You are loosing your trolling touch. Are you feeling ok? Is everything OK with you? This is uncharacteristic. (I hear there's a new edition of the Acme "How to be an Internet Troll" manual. maybe you should check it out.) So you have nothing... Yeah, pretty much. I thought I'd laugh along with you at the silliness you are working at. I was acknowledging your humor. I assume you are laughing as you are typing your responses. I sometimes wonder if Diogenes the Cynic chuckled to himself as he thought about something and took it to a logical extreme. After all it IS sometimes mentally fun to go down that path...
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Post by billisonboard on May 6, 2021 12:27:00 GMT -5
She was one of many persons involved in a violent invasion of the US Capital. Reality. and the shot was not fired when and where that clip was recorded. This one does:
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Post by billisonboard on May 6, 2021 12:31:00 GMT -5
and the shot was not fired when and where that clip was recorded. This one does: Shooting an unarmed woman is ok when breaking a door ? It was a violent invasion of the US Capital.
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Post by billisonboard on May 6, 2021 12:36:42 GMT -5
It was a violent invasion of the US Capital. Reality.
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Post by billisonboard on May 6, 2021 12:51:29 GMT -5
Reality on the 'invasion'. Reality on the 'invasion'.
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Post by billisonboard on May 6, 2021 12:57:06 GMT -5
It was a violent invasion of the US Capital. Reality.
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Post by pulmonarymd on May 6, 2021 12:57:50 GMT -5
I see Diogenes wants to play Blind man and the elephant
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Post by pulmonarymd on May 6, 2021 13:08:38 GMT -5
You know, it is possible that both your video and bill's video were taken from the same event. it likely is. The question, as is always the question in these cases, is context. And your video is so out of context it is not even in the same universe. But continue to play your game, you seem to get some sort of perverse enjoyment out of it.
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Post by Lizard Queen on May 6, 2021 13:20:12 GMT -5
You might ask yourself the question, why is that? Or you can ? I would of tasered instead of killed. I'm not the one being inconsistent. And you can't taser a mob.
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Post by Spellbound454 on May 6, 2021 13:22:39 GMT -5
Thank God for that. I was thinking it was turning in to a dystopian future...... where an all-powerful government puts one-in-the-back-of-the-head of those that disagree.
This rampage should not have happened in the first place if it hadn't been stoked... its was mismanaged when it did happen.... they should never have got near the Capitol
but killing unarmed people is wrong.... Violence breeds violence.
However unhinged (and I'd probably agree) you think these people are..... they are still part of society and they are not going away.
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Post by Bob Ross on May 6, 2021 13:22:58 GMT -5
Well, that didn't take long.
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Post by pulmonarymd on May 6, 2021 13:23:10 GMT -5
I'm glad you admit you are trolling. Now show the clip where she gets shot. That is the topic of this thread.
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Post by Lizard Queen on May 6, 2021 13:33:15 GMT -5
I'm not the one being inconsistent. And you can't taser a mob. There were only a couple of people by that door, courtesy of Bills video. One unarmed woman at the door gets shot with a gun. You're ok with this ? I'm not, she should of been tasered. Its too bad the cop didn't have the video then. Pretty easy to armchair quarterback when you're not in the thick of it and have access to all the information that was gathered afterward. Yes, I am ok with her getting shot. I've consistently said that this Capitol attack was an act of war, and those idiots were lucky more of them weren't shot. A mob attacks the seat of government in any other country, what do you think is going to happen?
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Post by billisonboard on May 6, 2021 13:36:43 GMT -5
[I was obviously rebutting spells post. It was an unarmed woman crawling through a broken window. What could she possibly do to a police officer with taser and gun and billy club ? Killed for beating on a door ? This is ok ? There were only a couple of people by that door, courtesy of Bills video. One unarmed woman at the door gets shot with a gun. You're ok with this ? I'm not, she should of been tasered.
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Post by pulmonarymd on May 6, 2021 13:40:47 GMT -5
Nice revisionist history. Talking points are right from the republican playbook. Alternative facts at their best!
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Post by Lizard Queen on May 6, 2021 13:41:07 GMT -5
Its too bad the cop didn't have the video then. Pretty easy to armchair quarterback when you're not in the thick of it and have access to all the information that was gathered afterward. Yes, I am ok with her getting shot. I've consistently said that this Capitol attack was an act of war, and those idiots were lucky more of them weren't shot. A mob attacks the seat of government in any other country, what do you think is going to happen? Hard to be an act of war/attack, when the protestors were freely let in by the police. Yes, why didn't that cop have his video turned on ? Breaking a window is not freely let in. Most people don't enter rooms through broken windows, but through doors. If the door is shut/blocked/locked perhaps that would be an indication that you are not allowed to enter--duh.
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Post by andi9899 on May 6, 2021 13:47:32 GMT -5
George Floyd was unarmed and killed for allegedly passing a fake $20 bill. Yet this person breaks into a federal building and is killed while committing a federal crime. Yeah, tazer would have been much better.
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Post by billisonboard on May 6, 2021 14:02:44 GMT -5
George Floyd was unarmed and killed for allegedly passing a fake $20 bill. Yet this person breaks into a federal building and is killed while committing a federal crime. Yeah, tazer would have been much better. So you are for killing unarmed women doing various alleged things to a door ? She was engaging in a violent invasion of the US Capital.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on May 6, 2021 14:08:59 GMT -5
George Floyd was unarmed and killed for allegedly passing a fake $20 bill. Yet this person breaks into a federal building and is killed while committing a federal crime. Yeah, tazer would have been much better. So you are for killing unarmed women doing various alleged things to a door ? If she had been breaking down the door/smashing in the window of the White House trying to get into the Oval Office to attack your Dear Leader would you be saying the same thing?
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Post by hurley1980 on May 6, 2021 14:12:32 GMT -5
I'm amazed you all have been able to keep a conversation with this dude for 4 pages! He thinks killing unarmed black men at the park, in their car, etc. is perfectly reasonable because they should know better. But killing an unarmed white woman (who was past military and actually SHOULD know better) who is breaking and entering and threatening elected leaders gets a pass because of whatever stupid reason is a horrible crime!
She is white, so she shouldn't be killed. But they are black, so they should be. This is the reasoning....but no racist person is actually going to come right out and admit it.
Good thing we can read between the lines.
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Post by tallguy on May 6, 2021 14:13:47 GMT -5
Thank God for that. I was thinking it was turning in to a dystopian future...... where an all-powerful government puts one-in-the-back-of-the-head of those that disagree.This rampage should not have happened in the first place if it hadn't been stoked... its was mismanaged when it did happen.... they should never have got near the Capitol but killing unarmed people is wrong.... Violence breeds violence. However unhinged (and I'd probably agree) you think these people are..... they are still part of society and they are not going away. No, but I'm all for putting one in the front of the head for those who violently attempt to overthrow a duly and legitimately-elected government.
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Post by tallguy on May 6, 2021 14:17:07 GMT -5
I'm amazed you all have been able to keep a conversation with this dude for 4 pages! He thinks killing unarmed black men at the park, in their car, etc. is perfectly reasonable because they should know better. But killing an unarmed white woman (who was past military and actually SHOULD know better) who is breaking and entering and threatening elected leaders gets a pass because of whatever stupid reason is a horrible crime! She is white, so she shouldn't be killed. But they are black, so they should be. This is the reasoning....but no racist person is actually going to come right out and admit it. Good thing we can read between the lines. It's been YEARS for some of these fools. Fact is that you can never engage with a troll and hope to accomplish anything. Like wrestling with a pig. You both get all muddy, but the pig likes it.
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Post by thyme4change on May 6, 2021 14:19:33 GMT -5
It was one of many persons involved in a violent invasion of the US Capital. It was a peaceful protest by BLM standards. Killed for crawling through a window ? What about a tazer ? A) This was absolutely not peaceful compared to the BLM protests. And B) like 30 people were shot and killed while protesting with BLM. With hundreds more injured. And each one of them was just one person. What harm could one person do?
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