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Post by Lizard Queen on Apr 21, 2021 8:51:08 GMT -5
So, you're telling me the problem is that the media are reporting this? Ignorance is bliss? Yes they're reporting it. And they shouldn't report it?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2021 8:53:13 GMT -5
Yes they're reporting it. And they shouldn't report it? I'm more of the conclusion that all gun situations garner equal coverage. I can't help but notice the big up tick in only negative stories with democrat efforts for small gun control regulation.
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Post by Lizard Queen on Apr 21, 2021 8:59:56 GMT -5
And they shouldn't report it? I'm more of the conclusion that all gun situations garner equal coverage. It seems like local gun situations do. However, the larger the situation, the larger the coverage. There was a mass shooting in my area (but not my city), 10 years ago. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Grand_Rapids_mass_murder It was covered nationally. That was before these things were an every day sort of thing.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2021 9:02:16 GMT -5
I'm more of the conclusion that all gun situations garner equal coverage. It seems like local gun situations do. However, the larger the situation, the larger the coverage. There was a mass shooting in my area (but not my city), 10 years ago. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Grand_Rapids_mass_murder It was covered nationally. That was before these things were an every day sort of thing. I rest my case, regards to local coverage.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2021 9:04:34 GMT -5
I received my second Moderna yesterday and am feelng quite sick, fever etc.
I'll have to pick up on this later, I'm going to lay down.
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Post by Lizard Queen on Apr 21, 2021 9:14:45 GMT -5
It seems like local gun situations do. However, the larger the situation, the larger the coverage. There was a mass shooting in my area (but not my city), 10 years ago. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Grand_Rapids_mass_murder It was covered nationally. That was before these things were an every day sort of thing. I rest my case, regards to local coverage. There's not much of case there.
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Post by billisonboard on Apr 21, 2021 9:21:25 GMT -5
Colorado governor signs two gun measures into law nearly a month after Boulder shootingColorado Democratic Gov. Jared Polis signed two bills tightening gun regulations into law on Monday, nearly a month after the mass shooting in Boulder, Colorado, left a police officer and nine others dead.
Both measures were introduced before the mass shooting occurred on March 22 at a grocery store, but the tragedy added to the public pressure and urgency to act on legislation, lawmakers have said. I'm sorry your honor, I didnt know the gun was missing. Activist judge, "you're guilty". Case is appealed, ruled unconstitutional due to vagueness, as there is no duty to check your firearm supply, nor is it in the law as a duty. It will work however, as one more nonsensical regulations only the law abiding will follow, for a while until the proper charge is challenged in court. Irresponsible gun owner: I'm sorry your honor, I didnt know the gun was missing. Judge applying the law: "you're guilty". Case is appealed, ruled unconstitutional due to vagueness, as there is no duty to check your firearm supply, nor is it in the law as a duty. It will work however, as one more nonsensical regulations only the law abiding will follow, for a while until the proper charge is challenged in court. And the beat goes on.
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Post by imawino on Apr 21, 2021 10:34:43 GMT -5
A grown man using baby talk is a repulsive thing to witness. I thought about trying to comment on the rest but as usual, it's non-sensical. That's what happens when I spend to much time talking to Bob, Happy. It rubs off a bit. I'll try to keep it more in tune with their maga heads and psychic vampires, so you're not offended. See, now is the time where you chastise them also, no ? I'm only guessing that you're taking the high road on partisan insulting ? In fairness I'll watch what you post next, everyone deserves a chance to show they're 'true' position on this. Just look back on reply #34, on the Trump Russia collusion thread. You've been there already. I hope your fee, fees aren't hurt with this, lol. If you read my comment, it said that baby talk was repulsive. I did not say anything about insults. Insult all you want, it just makes me vomit a little when you do it in baby talk is all. I even went back and looked at the post you referred to, no baby talk from Bob. So again, your post made no sense. So no, my "fee, fees" (which, if you are going to insist on using the language of a drooling toddler I would have to assume really ought to be spelled as "fee-fees"?) are not hurt by your irrelevant word-salad posts, but my head sure is.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2021 10:37:39 GMT -5
I rest my case, regards to local coverage. There's not much of case there. Never was.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2021 10:42:17 GMT -5
That's what happens when I spend to much time talking to Bob, Happy. It rubs off a bit. I'll try to keep it more in tune with their maga heads and psychic vampires, so you're not offended. See, now is the time where you chastise them also, no ? I'm only guessing that you're taking the high road on partisan insulting ? In fairness I'll watch what you post next, everyone deserves a chance to show they're 'true' position on this. Just look back on reply #34, on the Trump Russia collusion thread. You've been there already. I hope your fee, fees aren't hurt with this, lol. If you read my comment, it said that baby talk was repulsive. I did not say anything about insults. Insult all you want, it just makes me vomit a little when you do it in baby talk is all. I even went back and looked at the post you referred to, no baby talk from Bob. So again, your post made no sense. So no, my "fee, fees" (which, if you are going to insist on using the language of a drooling toddler I would have to assume really ought to be spelled as "fee-fees"?) are not hurt by your irrelevant word-salad posts, but my head sure is. Now I have my answer, thank you. Consider it an effective insult, then it will be ok. Insults should apply to the target after all. Thanks for validating Bob, he really needs it. Low road it is, your double standard notwithstanding.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2021 10:44:43 GMT -5
I'm sorry your honor, I didnt know the gun was missing. Activist judge, "you're guilty". Case is appealed, ruled unconstitutional due to vagueness, as there is no duty to check your firearm supply, nor is it in the law as a duty. It will work however, as one more nonsensical regulations only the law abiding will follow, for a while until the proper charge is challenged in court. Irresponsible gun owner: I'm sorry your honor, I didnt know the gun was missing. Judge applying the law: "you're guilty". Case is appealed, ruled unconstitutional due to vagueness, as there is no duty to check your firearm supply, nor is it in the law as a duty. It will work however, as one more nonsensical regulations only the law abiding will follow, for a while until the proper charge is challenged in court. And the beat goes on. Why yes, yes it does. As the shootings continue, with kneejerk policies being affected to garner votes vs problem solving.
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Post by imawino on Apr 21, 2021 11:00:52 GMT -5
If you read my comment, it said that baby talk was repulsive. I did not say anything about insults. Insult all you want, it just makes me vomit a little when you do it in baby talk is all. I even went back and looked at the post you referred to, no baby talk from Bob. So again, your post made no sense. So no, my "fee, fees" (which, if you are going to insist on using the language of a drooling toddler I would have to assume really ought to be spelled as "fee-fees"?) are not hurt by your irrelevant word-salad posts, but my head sure is. Now I have my answer, thank you. Consider it an effective insult, then it will be ok. Insults should apply to the target after all. Thanks for validating Bob, he really needs it. Low road it is, your double standard notwithstanding. Um, no. Not at all. Nothing here is a remotely accurate representation of what I said which was specifically that baby talk from a grown ass man was gross. I did not call out you, bob, or anyone else under the sun for being insulting. You do keep bringing up Bob in all your posts to me though, which is weird and irrelevant. This conversation, as usual, goes nowhere at all. I hope you feel better from your shot but I'm done engaging with you for now.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2021 11:17:59 GMT -5
Now I have my answer, thank you. Consider it an effective insult, then it will be ok. Insults should apply to the target after all. Thanks for validating Bob, he really needs it. Low road it is, your double standard notwithstanding. Um, no. Not at all. Nothing here is a remotely accurate representation of what I said which was specifically that baby talk from a grown ass man was gross. I did not call out you, bob, or anyone else under the sun for being insulting. You do keep bringing up Bob in all your posts to me though, which is weird and irrelevant. This conversation, as usual, goes nowhere at all. I hope you feel better from your shot but I'm done engaging with you for now. No worries, I was posturing about Bob. You want to talk actually about a topic I'm good with that. Fee fees was meant to be insulting, but I wasn't quoting you or directing it at you. You will need to work on that word salad before any ideas can be exchanged.
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Post by billisonboard on Apr 21, 2021 11:18:23 GMT -5
Irresponsible gun owner: I'm sorry your honor, I didnt know the gun was missing. Judge applying the law: "you're guilty". Case is appealed, ruled unconstitutional due to vagueness, as there is no duty to check your firearm supply, nor is it in the law as a duty. It will work however, as one more nonsensical regulations only the law abiding will follow, for a while until the proper charge is challenged in court. And the beat goes on. Why yes, yes it does. As the shootings continue, with kneejerk policies being affected to garner votes vs problem solving. But as I have said repeatedly, we will eventually get to the root cause.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2021 11:24:56 GMT -5
Why yes, yes it does. As the shootings continue, with kneejerk policies being affected to garner votes vs problem solving. But as I have said repeatedly, we will eventually get to the root cause. We'll all push our favorite policies on the way.
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Post by weltschmerz on Apr 25, 2021 18:06:52 GMT -5
MONDAY: mass shooting
TUESDAY: mass shooting
WEDNESDAY: mass shooting
THURSDAY: mass shooting
FRIDAY: mass shooting
SATURDAY: mass shooting
SUNDAY: mass shooting
REPUBLICANS: we gotta do something about trans people playing sports
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Post by swamp on Apr 26, 2021 13:04:26 GMT -5
MONDAY: mass shooting TUESDAY: mass shooting WEDNESDAY: mass shooting THURSDAY: mass shooting FRIDAY: mass shooting SATURDAY: mass shooting SUNDAY: mass shooting REPUBLICANS: we gotta do something about trans people playing sports I’m surprised the proposed solution isn’t shooting them.
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Post by djAdvocate on Apr 28, 2021 15:22:30 GMT -5
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Post by weltschmerz on May 9, 2021 14:49:39 GMT -5
Two women and a 4-year-old girl, believed to be innocent bystanders, were wounded in a shooting at New York's Times Square on Saturday, according to New York police. www.cnn.com/2021/05/08/us/new-york-times-square-shooting-3-injured/index.htmlAn overnight shooting at a hotel in downtown Phoenix left one dead and several others injured, police said Sunday morning. Police Sgt. Margaret Cox said during a news conference that one adult male was found dead inside the hotel and at least seven others were taken to the hospital with gunshot injuries. She said all of the victims are believed to be between 18 and 22. www.cnn.com/2021/05/09/us/phoenix-fatal-shooting/index.htmlShooting incidents and gun violence exploded in New York last year and have continued to surge in 2021. According to the NYPD's city crime statistics, shooting incidents this year through May 2 have skyrocketed 83% over the same period a year ago. Nothing to see here! Thoughts and prayers.
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Post by billisonboard on May 10, 2021 9:21:02 GMT -5
America- "E pluribus unum" "In God we Trust" "We Shoot People"
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Post by thyme4change on May 10, 2021 10:46:29 GMT -5
I really hate the definition of "mass shooting". One guy takes out his family in their home - tragic, but different from a guy going into a movie theater with the intention to kill as many strangers as possible. Even the Phoenix one, which may have been public was still a fight between a group of people that knew each other, turned extremely bad. Because many people think of mass shootings as these random acts of violence that could happen in any ol' school or grocery store, advertising anything with 4+ people makes it seem more common than it is. It is still far more likely that (a) you will kill yourself or (b) you will get killed by someone you know vs a random shooter. You have some control over the first two. I am not a gun person and if I moved to a country with a total ban on all firearms I wouldn't even notice. I support licensing, registration and a background check on every gun sale. But, I wish we had more accurate language and understanding about the situations in which people are being harmed by guns.
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Post by billisonboard on May 10, 2021 11:25:47 GMT -5
I really hate the definition of "mass shooting". One guy takes out his family in their home - tragic, but different from a guy going into a movie theater with the intention to kill as many strangers as possible. Even the Phoenix one, which may have been public was still a fight between a group of people that knew each other, turned extremely bad. Because many people think of mass shootings as these random acts of violence that could happen in any ol' school or grocery store, advertising anything with 4+ people makes it seem more common than it is. It is still far more likely that (a) you will kill yourself or (b) you will get killed by someone you know vs a random shooter. You have some control over the first two. I am not a gun person and if I moved to a country with a total ban on all firearms I wouldn't even notice. I support licensing, registration and a background check on every gun sale. But, I wish we had more accurate language and understanding about the situations in which people are being harmed by guns. I do agree with the language issue. What I see as the issue in this country is how common the solution to solving a problem is, "Shoot someone." "I want your shoes and you won't give them to me." "My wife is leaving me and taking the kids." "I hear voices in my head and need to silence them." "The guy I need to serve with a warrant is running away." "I don't want to wear a mask but they say I have to to get in the store." "He took my parking space." " etc etc etc The body count might be one or multiple. The shot might or might not have known the shooter. The type of gun used might fire one bullet or a lot with one pull of the trigger. But the "problem to solution" process stays the same.
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Post by Lizard Queen on May 10, 2021 12:30:47 GMT -5
I really hate the definition of "mass shooting". One guy takes out his family in their home - tragic, but different from a guy going into a movie theater with the intention to kill as many strangers as possible. Even the Phoenix one, which may have been public was still a fight between a group of people that knew each other, turned extremely bad. Because many people think of mass shootings as these random acts of violence that could happen in any ol' school or grocery store, advertising anything with 4+ people makes it seem more common than it is. It is still far more likely that (a) you will kill yourself or (b) you will get killed by someone you know vs a random shooter. You have some control over the first two. I am not a gun person and if I moved to a country with a total ban on all firearms I wouldn't even notice. I support licensing, registration and a background check on every gun sale. But, I wish we had more accurate language and understanding about the situations in which people are being harmed by guns. "CNN defines a mass shooting as incident with four or more people killed or wounded by gunfire -- excluding the shooter." Seems like a reasonable definition for the words "mass shooting". It seems like you're looking for something more like "random shooting of multiple people", but regardless whether you are acquainted with the shooter or not, you're probably just as shot/dead.
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Post by chiver78 on May 10, 2021 13:00:13 GMT -5
I really hate the definition of "mass shooting". One guy takes out his family in their home - tragic, but different from a guy going into a movie theater with the intention to kill as many strangers as possible. Even the Phoenix one, which may have been public was still a fight between a group of people that knew each other, turned extremely bad. Because many people think of mass shootings as these random acts of violence that could happen in any ol' school or grocery store, advertising anything with 4+ people makes it seem more common than it is. It is still far more likely that (a) you will kill yourself or (b) you will get killed by someone you know vs a random shooter. You have some control over the first two. I am not a gun person and if I moved to a country with a total ban on all firearms I wouldn't even notice. I support licensing, registration and a background check on every gun sale. But, I wish we had more accurate language and understanding about the situations in which people are being harmed by guns. I think it's disgusting that we as a society have enough of these incidents that we can subcategorize them.
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Post by billisonboard on May 10, 2021 13:11:40 GMT -5
Here is where I get myself in trouble. I think one factor that creates the shoot to solve your problems mindset is the 2nd Amendment. It is interpreted as giving every American the right to possess and use a gun to protect themselves from villainy and tyranny. It might take a significant twisting of a mind to get that to a right to shoot people you see as evil or lording over you, but I think it happens. For that reason, I support repeal of the Amendment or a serious reworking of it.
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Post by billisonboard on May 10, 2021 16:49:26 GMT -5
(Credit owed to John D. MacDonald in one of his Travis McGee books for this concept)
The physical act of killing someone with a knife is movement towards the person, whether a stab or a throwing motion. Beating or choking someone is likewise movement towards. The physical act of shooting someone is a movement away from the person, pulling back on the trigger.
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Post by billisonboard on May 13, 2021 9:39:10 GMT -5
(Credit owed to John D. MacDonald in one of his Travis McGee books for this concept) The physical act of killing someone with a knife is movement towards the person, whether a stab or a throwing motion. Beating or choking someone is likewise movement towards. The physical act of shooting someone is a movement away from the person, pulling back on the trigger. Good concept, shows depth of comprehension. Doesn't pulling a trigger operate a device that sends a projectile towards the target ? His next humor will be expounding on the fact that pressing on a brake pedal before hitting a pedestrian means you actually meant to hit that person because you're foot was moving in the direction of the cars travel. Yes, the device does send a projectile forward when the human does an action away from the other person. Many human actions move us towards another person with no intent to kill.
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