Official Trump Lawsuit Watch Thread

[NastyWoman]

Not that it would matter to the loser on a personal levelas tbe retainer was paid for with money from his super PAC. He still won't lose a penny over this 

[djAdvocate]

of course not.  he is a professional grifter, and literally MILLIONS support his grift.

[Tennesseer]

Trump's 'ultimate grift' was getting himself Nobel Peace Prize nomination for 'fake nuclear deal': reporter

New Yorker reporter Susan Glasser revealed to The Bulwark's Charlie Sykes this week what she believed to be former President Donald Trump's "ultimate grift."

While appearing on Sykes' podcast, Glasser talked about how Trump lobbied to get himself nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize for his ultimately unfruitful efforts to get North Korea to give up its nuclear weapons.

"Donald Trump bragged and bragged and bragged about his, by the way, nonexistent nuclear deal with Kim Jong-un," Glasser said. "And he would go to rallies and say, 'Would you believe it, the prime minister of Japan has nominated me for a Nobel Peace Prize!'"

There was much more to Trump's nomination for the prestigious prize than met the eye, however.

"Then we learn, in the course of reporting for this book, that, in fact, the reason Shinzo Abe nominated Donald Trump for a Nobel Peace Prize is that Donald Trump had him to a private dinner, just the two of them, at Trump Tower in the fall of 2018 at which he asked Shinzo Abe to nominate him."

Trump ultimately didn't care about winning the prize, said Glasser, as much as being able to brag about having been nominated.

"To me that is the ultimate grift," she said. "A fake nuclear deal, a fake nomination for the Peace Prize, it's got it all."

Trump ultimately was not awarded the Nobel Peace Prize.

Trump's 'ultimate grift' was getting himself Nobel Peace Prize nomination for 'fake nuclear deal': reporter

[Tennesseer]

I'll park this here.

trump's lawyer must not be aware he's representing probably the biggest bully in American political history. Who seats front and center at the presidential debate the women who charged his opponent's husband with sexual harassment to rattle his opponent.

Donald Trump is Being Bullied Out of Running for President Again—Attorney

An attorney for Donald Trump has claimed that he is being "bullied" out of running for president again in 2024.

Speaking to Newsmax's Eric Bolling the Balance, Alina Habba said that the former president is being unfairly treated as he faces a number of criminal and civil investigations that could hinder his hopes of returning to the White House.

The pair suggested that the Democratic Party and the Department of Justice may be trying to "deter" Trump from running again with federal investigation into whether he mishandled sensitive and top secret White House documents that were seized from his Mar-a-Lago office.

However, Habba said of the treatment: "It energizes him, it energizes his base.

"I think when people see anybody being bullied—which is ironic because when you see the left-wing politics and media always like to say, 'Bullying is wrong, we're pro-this, we're pro-that'—well, what makes it OK to bully someone just because they are Republican? Or because they happen to be their biggest political threat?

"You're trying to now bully somebody out of running, and I have some news for you. Keep going, guys, because he does not get intimated," Habba said. "Donald Trump does not get intimated, he gets invigorated."

Trump has denied any wrongdoing with regards to the materials the FBI seized from his Florida home, frequently making the disputed claim that he declassified all the documents before he left the White House. Trump also says the investigation, along with several other probes against him, is part of a politically motivated "witch hunt."

Trump has not formally confirmed that he intends to run for president again in 2024, but has been hinting at it since he left office in January 2021.

During the interview, Habba suggested other former presidents also had White House documents in various locations.

Habba claimed that Barack Obama had "30 million pages moved into an abandoned furniture store," suggesting the Democrat also mishandled presidential records.

As noted by Associated Press fact checkers, who ruled the claim as "false," the Obama administration did move millions of documents to be temporarily kept in Hoffman Estates in Chicago, a building that used to be a furniture store.

However, the materials were maintained and owned by the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) and handed over to the agency after Obama left office in 2017.

The NARA explained in a statement that the materials, none of which were classified, were moved as The Obama Foundation was planning on housing some of them in a Chicago-based library.

Habba has been contacted for comment.

Donald Trump is Being Bullied Out of Running for President Again—Attorney

[Tennesseer]

A new lawsuit. Trump v. CNN. trump's sick desperation is palpable.

Donald Trump sued CNN, accusing the network of using its 'massive influence' to defame him 'for the purpose of defeating him politically'

Former President Donald Trump filed a defamation lawsuit against CNN, accusing the network of defaming him "with a series of ever-more scandalous, false, and defamatory labels of 'racist,' 'Russian lackey,' 'insurrectionist,' and ultimately 'Hitler,'" according to the lawsuit.

The former president threatened a suit against the network earlier this year for "defamatory" reporting. In July, Trump sent the network a 282-page letter threatening a defamation lawsuit and demanding an apology from the network. The letter also asked the network to retract "numerous articles and televised transmissions" within 10 days.

Trump's lawyers filed the lawsuit Monday in federal court in Fort Lauderdale, Florida. He is seeking at least $475 million in punitive damages, according to the suit. The lawsuit also seeks a trial by jury, according to court documents.

Donald Trump sued CNN, accusing the network of using its 'massive influence' to defame him 'for the purpose of defeating him politically'

[djAdvocate]

Oct 3, 2022 17:41:34 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

A new lawsuit. Trump v. CNN. trump's sick desperation is palpable.

Donald Trump sued CNN, accusing the network of using its 'massive influence' to defame him 'for the purpose of defeating him politically'

Former President Donald Trump filed a defamation lawsuit against CNN, accusing the network of defaming him "with a series of ever-more scandalous, false, and defamatory labels of 'racist,' 'Russian lackey,' 'insurrectionist,' and ultimately 'Hitler,'" according to the lawsuit.

The former president threatened a suit against the network earlier this year for "defamatory" reporting. In July, Trump sent the network a 282-page letter threatening a defamation lawsuit and demanding an apology from the network. The letter also asked the network to retract "numerous articles and televised transmissions" within 10 days.

Trump's lawyers filed the lawsuit Monday in federal court in Fort Lauderdale, Florida. He is seeking at least $475 million in punitive damages, according to the suit. The lawsuit also seeks a trial by jury, according to court documents.

Donald Trump sued CNN, accusing the network of using its 'massive influence' to defame him 'for the purpose of defeating him politically'

the purpose of defeating him politically is entirely justified.
and describing him, how he is, is not "defamation".

but furthermore, the 1st Amendment is VERY robust in the US.
this is nothing more than a political stunt, but it doesn't even
pass the test of logic.

[Tennesseer]

Oct 3, 2022 18:23:40 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Oct 3, 2022 17:41:34 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

A new lawsuit. Trump v. CNN. trump's sick desperation is palpable.

Donald Trump sued CNN, accusing the network of using its 'massive influence' to defame him 'for the purpose of defeating him politically'

Former President Donald Trump filed a defamation lawsuit against CNN, accusing the network of defaming him "with a series of ever-more scandalous, false, and defamatory labels of 'racist,' 'Russian lackey,' 'insurrectionist,' and ultimately 'Hitler,'" according to the lawsuit.

The former president threatened a suit against the network earlier this year for "defamatory" reporting. In July, Trump sent the network a 282-page letter threatening a defamation lawsuit and demanding an apology from the network. The letter also asked the network to retract "numerous articles and televised transmissions" within 10 days.

Trump's lawyers filed the lawsuit Monday in federal court in Fort Lauderdale, Florida. He is seeking at least $475 million in punitive damages, according to the suit. The lawsuit also seeks a trial by jury, according to court documents.

Donald Trump sued CNN, accusing the network of using its 'massive influence' to defame him 'for the purpose of defeating him politically'

the purpose of defeating him politically is entirely justified.
and describing him, how he is, is not "defamation".

but furthermore, the 1st Amendment is VERY robust in the US.
this is nothing more than a political stunt, but it doesn't even
pass the test of logic.

Of course.

[Tennesseer]

Oct 3, 2022 18:23:40 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Oct 3, 2022 17:41:34 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

A new lawsuit. Trump v. CNN. trump's sick desperation is palpable.

Donald Trump sued CNN, accusing the network of using its 'massive influence' to defame him 'for the purpose of defeating him politically'

Former President Donald Trump filed a defamation lawsuit against CNN, accusing the network of defaming him "with a series of ever-more scandalous, false, and defamatory labels of 'racist,' 'Russian lackey,' 'insurrectionist,' and ultimately 'Hitler,'" according to the lawsuit.

The former president threatened a suit against the network earlier this year for "defamatory" reporting. In July, Trump sent the network a 282-page letter threatening a defamation lawsuit and demanding an apology from the network. The letter also asked the network to retract "numerous articles and televised transmissions" within 10 days.

Trump's lawyers filed the lawsuit Monday in federal court in Fort Lauderdale, Florida. He is seeking at least $475 million in punitive damages, according to the suit. The lawsuit also seeks a trial by jury, according to court documents.

Donald Trump sued CNN, accusing the network of using its 'massive influence' to defame him 'for the purpose of defeating him politically'

the purpose of defeating him politically is entirely justified.
and describing him, how he is, is not "defamation".

but furthermore, the 1st Amendment is VERY robust in the US.
this is nothing more than a political stunt, but it doesn't even
pass the test of logic.

Legal experts trash Trump's 'garbage' lawsuit against CNN: 'Not worth the paper it's printed on'

[Tennesseer]

Grifting yet again. How many times are the MAGAts going to let themselves be separated from their money.

Trump uses his widely panned $475 million CNN lawsuit as a ploy to beg followers for money

Former President Donald Trump on Monday announced he was suing CNN for a whopping $475 million for purportedly airing "fake news" about him in a civil suit that legal experts widely dismissed as a publicity stunt.

But as Bloomberg News reports, skepticism from the legal community about the lawsuit's chances of success hasn't stopped the former president from using it to raise money from his followers.

In a fundraising email sent to his supporters, Trump framed his lawsuit against the cable news network as something he was doing on their behalf.

“I am SUING the Corrupt News Network (CNN) for DEFAMING and SLANDERING my name,” he wrote. “Remember, when they come after ME, they are really coming after YOU.”

Rest of article here: Trump uses his widely panned $475 million CNN lawsuit as a ploy to beg followers for money

[djAdvocate]

if he is collecting it from CNN, why does he need it from his fan club?  

or is this an admission that he has already lost?

[Tennesseer]

Oct 4, 2022 19:43:43 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

if he is collecting it from CNN, why does he need it from his fan club?  

or is this an admission that he has already lost?

It's to 'fight' CNN in court.

[pulmonarymd]

The more his followers give to him, the less they have to give to Republican candidates. Not like he is going to share “his” money. Seems like a win/win to me. And if he wins, think of how many people can sue Fox News

[djAdvocate]

Oct 4, 2022 19:45:52 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

Oct 4, 2022 19:43:43 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

if he is collecting it from CNN, why does he need it from his fan club?  

or is this an admission that he has already lost?

It's to 'fight' CNN in court.

....but he is rich, right?
and he is going to win.
so.....why does he need the money?

[djAdvocate]

Oct 4, 2022 19:49:32 GMT -5 pulmonarymd said:

The more his followers give to him, the less they have to give to Republican candidates. Not like he is going to share “his” money. Seems like a win/win to me. And if he wins, think of how many people can sue Fox News

right, but i just don't understand the reasoning.
i mean, how can that even WORK, as a grift?

[pulmonarymd]

Again, people are dumb, gullible, and are not skeptical of things that reinforce their beliefs. So they give money without questioning it

[pulmonarymd]

Oct 4, 2022 20:03:56 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Oct 4, 2022 19:45:52 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

It's to 'fight' CNN in court.

....but he is rich, right?
and he is going to win.
so.....why does he need the money?

Always better to spend other peoples money. That’s how you stay rich.

He isn’t as rich as he claims yo be

[djAdvocate]

lord help us.
what is happening to this world?

[happyhoix]

Trump is asking his good buddy Clarence Thomas to reverse the lower court decision and give him all his classified documents back, because he declassified them.  I guess as a favor since he recently complimented Thomas’ wife. 

www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-asks-supreme-court-to-intervene-in-mar-a-lago-documents-case/ar-AA12BwXD?ocid=EMMX&cvid=b501c80d456041299c40cfc624e28d83

I’m not a legal expert, but apparently chances are slim that Clarence will decide this on his own. He’ll bring it back to the Supreme Court, and we’ll see what happens then. 

[Tennesseer]

Oct 4, 2022 20:03:56 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Oct 4, 2022 19:45:52 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

It's to 'fight' CNN in court.

....but he is rich, right?
and he is going to win.
so.....why does he need the money?

trump's doing it not for himself but his MAGAts. "Remember, when they come after ME, they are really coming after YOU.”

[teen persuasion]

Oct 4, 2022 20:03:56 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Oct 4, 2022 19:45:52 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

It's to 'fight' CNN in court.

....but he is rich, right?
and he is going to win.
so.....why does he need the money?

Logic is definitely NOT their strong point.

They don't question, they just follow their "leader's" directions: good, bad, or indifferent.

[Tennesseer]

We don't need another trump thread about his continued dreadful behavior so I will park this here.

Trump used a slur for people with intellectual disabilities to describe his one-time Attorney Jeff Sessions, book says

Former President Donald Trump was known to use an ableist slur to refer to Jeff Sessions, his first attorney general, according to a new book by New York Times reporter Maggie Haberman.

In "Confidence Man," Haberman writes that Trump would "rant" that he deserves credit for nominating "the first mentally retarded attorney general in history" when the topic of Sessions was brought up by other White House officials — who often did so to redirect Trump's ire away from themselves.

It's the latest detail to surface about one of the longest-running feuds of Trump's presidency.

Trump has a history of using ableist insults to describe those who he believes have wronged him. At a 2015 rally, he mocked New York Times reporter Serge Kovaleski, who has arthrogryposis, a condition that causes joint contracture.

Sessions, who served in the US Senate from 1997 until joining the Trump administration in 2017, was the first senator to endorse Trump. Stephen Miller, the hardline immigration hawk who served as a senior advisor to Trump during his presidency, had previously served as Sessions' communications director.

But Trump grew furious with Sessions after he recused himself from all matters involving Trump's 2016 presidential campaign, particularly as Special Counsel Robert Mueller investigated the campaign's ties to Russia.

That conflict often played out in public, with Trump publicly pressuring Sessions to halt the Russia investigation.

After Trump claimed in an August 2018 interview that Sessions "never took control" of the Department of Justice, Sessions issued a statement pushing back on Trump, saying that department "will not be improperly influenced by political considerations."

Sessions later resigned as attorney general on November 7, 2018, one day after that year's midterm elections in which Republicans lost over 30 seats, costing them the majority in the House of Representatives.

Sessions did not immediately respond to Insider's request for comment.

In 2020, Sessions sought to mount a political comeback, running for his old US Senate seat. But after he portrayed himself as a strong supporter of Trump, the former president's campaign called Sessions "delusional" in a letter accusing him of trying to "misleadingly promote your connections to and 'support' of Trump." Sessions later lost to former Auburn football coach Tommy Tuberville, now the state's junior US senator.

And it's not the first time Trump has used ableism to go after his perceived foes.

At a campaign rally in 2015, he mocked New York Times reporter Serge Kovaleski, who suffers from arthrogryposis, a disease that visibly inhibits the functioning of his joints.

Trump used a slur for people with intellectual disabilities to describe his one-time Attorney Jeff Sessions, book says

[djAdvocate]

i see.  Sessions is mentally retarded for following the law.  telling.

[NastyWoman]

Oct 4, 2022 20:03:56 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

Oct 4, 2022 19:45:52 GMT -5 Tennesseer said:

It's to 'fight' CNN in court.

....but he is rich, right? Is he?
and he is going to win.Will he?
so.....why does he need the money? We will find out when he shows us those tax returns (like six years late) 

[djAdvocate]

Oct 5, 2022 18:28:44 GMT -5 NastyWoman said:

Oct 4, 2022 20:03:56 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

....but he is rich, right? Is he?
and he is going to win.Will he?
so.....why does he need the money? We will find out when he shows us those tax returns (like six years late) 

that was my entire point.  his minions think those things.  and that is what he SAYS.  or what he pretends.  so how can that possibly be used as a grift?

the ONLY way is if people don't actually believe it.  or if they believe something else OTHER than what is being said.  like....he is God or something, and they have to tithe.

[NastyWoman]

I know djAdvocate. I just saw my chance ti bring back the tax returns and coyldn't resist. One day soon I will have a chance to remind his followers (few as they me be here) of his "stellar", but secret, college grades.

[djAdvocate]

i don't think ANY of it matters to them.  it is something beyond politics that compels them.  it is something akin to religion.  it is not really even absolute belief.  it is absolute disbelief.  it is absolute cynicism that drive them to Trump.  he is completely unprincipled, unrooted in anything real, beholding to nobody.  he is a prophet of chaos.  he is a big FU to established norms.

in short, he is absolutely antithetical to everything i thought Republicans believed in.  

i understand his voters.  what i don't understand is the GOP.  i mean, on paper they are a POLITICAL party.  they believe in the rule of law and the constitution.  but Trump is NONE of those things.  and he is none of the norms that i expect from parties.

the GOP is no longer Grand or Old.  they are something new and awful.

[happyhoix]

Oct 5, 2022 19:01:00 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

i don't think ANY of it matters to them.  it is something beyond politics that compels them.  it is something akin to religion.  it is not really even absolute belief.  it is absolute disbelief.  it is absolute cynicism that drive them to Trump.  he is completely unprincipled, unrooted in anything real, beholding to nobody.  he is a prophet of chaos.  he is a big FU to established norms.

in short, he is absolutely antithetical to everything i thought Republicans believed in.  

i understand his voters.  what i don't understand is the GOP.  i mean, on paper they are a POLITICAL party.  they believe in the rule of law and the constitution.  but Trump is NONE of those things.  and he is none of the norms that i expect from parties.

the GOP is no longer Grand or Old.  they are something new and awful.

I used to think Trump was a bump in the road and the GOP would recover once his presidency was over. 

Now I think Trump has perverted the GOP and the only way forward is to put a stake in it’s heart and start over with a new party - or parties. 

A true conservative, fiscally responsible party might rise from the ashes, but it will take a few election cycles for them to recover. 

[swamp]

Oct 6, 2022 9:21:22 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

Oct 5, 2022 19:01:00 GMT -5 djAdvocate said:

i don't think ANY of it matters to them.  it is something beyond politics that compels them.  it is something akin to religion.  it is not really even absolute belief.  it is absolute disbelief.  it is absolute cynicism that drive them to Trump.  he is completely unprincipled, unrooted in anything real, beholding to nobody.  he is a prophet of chaos.  he is a big FU to established norms.

in short, he is absolutely antithetical to everything i thought Republicans believed in.  

i understand his voters.  what i don't understand is the GOP.  i mean, on paper they are a POLITICAL party.  they believe in the rule of law and the constitution.  but Trump is NONE of those things.  and he is none of the norms that i expect from parties.

the GOP is no longer Grand or Old.  they are something new and awful.

I used to think Trump was a bump in the road and the GOP would recover once his presidency was over. 

Now I think Trump has perverted the GOP and the only way forward is to put a stake in it’s heart and start over with a new party - or parties. 

A true conservative, fiscally responsible party might rise from the ashes, but it will take a few election cycles for them to recover. 

I think it's the other way around.  Trump is the symptom, not the cause.  The rot started years ago.   

[NomoreDramaQ1015]

Oct 6, 2022 9:29:22 GMT -5 swamp said:

Oct 6, 2022 9:21:22 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

I used to think Trump was a bump in the road and the GOP would recover once his presidency was over. 

Now I think Trump has perverted the GOP and the only way forward is to put a stake in it’s heart and start over with a new party - or parties. 

A true conservative, fiscally responsible party might rise from the ashes, but it will take a few election cycles for them to recover. 

I think it's the other way around.  Trump is the symptom, not the cause.  The rot started years ago.   

  

If it wasn't Trump it would have been someone else.   They've been anti-everything since as long as I can remember.  McConnell openly and proudly stated he would make sure Obama was a one term president.

Trump came along at just the right moment in history.   Him winning was a direct backlash and message about Obama being president for 8 years, Clinton winning the popular vote and the progress made on rights for minorities in the last decade. 

There is no place for anyone who isn't a rich white hetero cis Christian male in the Republican party.  Who better to symbolize that message than Trump?  He freaking took that baton and swung it as wide and loudly as he possibly could.

[djAdvocate]

Oct 6, 2022 9:29:22 GMT -5 swamp said:

Oct 6, 2022 9:21:22 GMT -5 happyhoix said:

I used to think Trump was a bump in the road and the GOP would recover once his presidency was over. 

Now I think Trump has perverted the GOP and the only way forward is to put a stake in it’s heart and start over with a new party - or parties. 

A true conservative, fiscally responsible party might rise from the ashes, but it will take a few election cycles for them to recover. 

I think it's the other way around.  Trump is the symptom, not the cause.  The rot started years ago.   

i am not quite to the point where i say that the GOP never believed in governance, if that is what you are saying.

is that what you are saying?

note: i think a case could be made for the Southern Whigs never believing in government.  i think that is pretty solid.  but the Southern Whigs were not always part of the GOP.  that happened under Nixon.