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Post by deminmaine on Feb 22, 2021 6:24:02 GMT -5
Yup, and it was caused by windmills.
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Post by Opti on Feb 22, 2021 6:46:17 GMT -5
I missed the news if it was real. How has Biden gone after the energy sector? Does this Trump suck-up currently have a job?
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Post by pulmonarymd on Feb 22, 2021 9:10:30 GMT -5
Believe stupid things, suffer the consequences. I have no patience for stupidity anymore
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Post by daisylu on Feb 22, 2021 10:07:22 GMT -5
The sad part about it is that a lot of us will have to suffer the same consequences. The last year has definitely taught us that.
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Post by oped on Feb 22, 2021 10:35:55 GMT -5
Believe stupid things, suffer the consequences. I have no patience for stupidity anymore What consequences? The fed will pay billions to fix what they broke. They will change nothing and next time we get to bail them out again.
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Post by Tennesseer on Feb 22, 2021 10:57:05 GMT -5
Yup, and it was caused by windmills. Gay marriage and gender-neutral bathrooms and gym changing rooms.
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Post by bean29 on Feb 22, 2021 11:24:23 GMT -5
I am very upset by this. The republicans have tried to deny disaster assistance to other areas that needed especially those from Texas. Texas deregulated their Utilities and refused to connect to the power grid. They are now suffering the consequences that they were warned would occur.
Now that disaster has struck - the US as a whole is supposed to pay to help them fix the consequences of their stupidity. We will probably be expected to help individuals pay the astronomical power bills that they have received. How is this fair? No one ever helped Midwest citizens pay they cost of winterizing their homes or their Infrastructure/Utilities, so why should it go the other direction.
I asked my DH if the pipes burst in a house if their insurance would cover it, and he told me two things. 1) Most people in Texas don't carry homeowners insurance, and not only do they not winterize their utilities or their homes, they don't follow any kind of building codes that the rest of the country follows, so their pipes often run right in the open through their homes.
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Post by swamp on Feb 22, 2021 11:32:01 GMT -5
Ted Cruz voted down aid to NJ after hurricane Sandy. And they also have a pending bill for secession. Now Cruz is crying for help from the feds We have an adult in the WH who will do the right thing. I would find it very hard to help out TX after that.
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Post by mcsangel2 on Feb 22, 2021 12:47:40 GMT -5
I asked my DH if the pipes burst in a house if their insurance would cover it, and he told me two things. 1) Most people in Texas don't carry homeowners insurance, and not only do they not winterize their utilities or their homes, they don't follow any kind of building codes that the rest of the country follows, so their pipes often run right in the open through their homes. This doesn't sound right. Researching your first point right away brings up that Texas law does not require homeowner's insurance, however, if you still have a mortgage on your house, your lender will require it. So your first point is incorrect. To your second point (first and second part), homes are built in different ways in different parts of the country. Being from Phoenix myself, I'm not sure exactly what winterizing a home that's occupied entails, but why would this be standard in a climate that is so vastly different from the midwest? I mean, I hear there are homes in the northeast and midwest that don't have air conditioning, and that would render a house unliveable here. To the second part of your point, my H and I have several family members that live in Texas, and I can assure you that their houses are completely conventional and don't have pipes running through the house out in the open. ETA: to revisit winterizing and building codes after talking to a coworker in Tulsa, Oklahoma - apparently in colder climates, houses now are built with a type of plumbing pipe that has a small bit of expansion/give in them, making them less likely to burst if there's a bad freeze. Not the case in hotter climates (like Texas).
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 22, 2021 14:53:58 GMT -5
Believe stupid things, suffer the consequences. I have no patience for stupidity anymore What consequences? The fed will pay billions to fix what they broke. They will change nothing and next time we get to bail them out again. can't stand welfare queens like Texas.
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Post by andi9899 on Feb 22, 2021 15:25:12 GMT -5
I asked my DH if the pipes burst in a house if their insurance would cover it, and he told me two things. 1) Most people in Texas don't carry homeowners insurance, and not only do they not winterize their utilities or their homes, they don't follow any kind of building codes that the rest of the country follows, so their pipes often run right in the open through their homes. This doesn't sound right. Researching your first point right away brings up that Texas law does not require homeowner's insurance, however, if you still have a mortgage on your house, your lender will require it. So your first point is incorrect. To your second point (first and second part), homes are built in different ways in different parts of the country. Being from Phoenix myself, I'm not sure exactly what winterizing a home that's occupied entails, but why would this be standard in a climate that is so vastly different from the midwest? I mean, I hear there are homes in the northeast and midwest that don't have air conditioning, and that would render a house unliveable here. To the second part of your point, my H and I have several family members that live in Texas, and I can assure you that their houses are completely conventional and don't have pipes running through the house out in the open. ETA: to revisit winterizing and building codes after talking to a coworker in Tulsa, Oklahoma - apparently in colder climates, houses now are built with a type of plumbing pipe that has a small bit of expansion/give in them, making them less likely to burst if there's a bad freeze. Not the case in hotter climates (like Texas). Agreed.
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Post by NastyWoman on Feb 22, 2021 16:16:03 GMT -5
Ted Cruz voted down aid to NJ after hurricane Sandy. And they also have a pending bill for secession. Now Cruz is crying for help from the feds We have an adult in the WH who will do the right thing. I would find it very hard to help out TX after that. though sending food, water, and generators for hospitals as needed is fine with me. However, yesterday there was this one politician from Texas on a CNN interview who really PISSED ME OFF! The interviewer asked what Texas was going to do about the price gouging by that one provider (in I believe the Dallas area) and whether the state was going to help the homeowners being hit by bills of thousands of dollars per day. And his answer was "absolutely, we will use the federal disaster aid to make these people whole" ? How about just stopping the price gouging? Why should my tax money be used to increase the profit of a private company? I changed the channel really fast after that was said as I don't have a large enough supply of Tums to listen to this vile, clueless drivel
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Post by bean29 on Feb 22, 2021 16:56:28 GMT -5
This doesn't sound right. Researching your first point right away brings up that Texas law does not require homeowner's insurance, however, if you still have a mortgage on your house, your lender will require it. So your first point is incorrect. To your second point (first and second part), homes are built in different ways in different parts of the country. Being from Phoenix myself, I'm not sure exactly what winterizing a home that's occupied entails, but why would this be standard in a climate that is so vastly different from the midwest? I mean, I hear there are homes in the northeast and midwest that don't have air conditioning, and that would render a house unliveable here. To the second part of your point, my H and I have several family members that live in Texas, and I can assure you that their houses are completely conventional and don't have pipes running through the house out in the open. ETA: to revisit winterizing and building codes after talking to a coworker in Tulsa, Oklahoma - apparently in colder climates, houses now are built with a type of plumbing pipe that has a small bit of expansion/give in them, making them less likely to burst if there's a bad freeze. Not the case in hotter climates (like Texas). Agreed. IDK, I know there is a national building code, and our corporate attorney used to b!tch all the time that even though we did not have Earthquakes and Hurricanes in the Midwest, our buildings still had to be able to withstand an earthquake - so why Texas buildings should not have to be built to withstand occasional freezing temps, idk. Not every house has a mortgage. Google says nearly 40% are owned free and clear. To your ETA: We generally avoid placing pipes on outside walls, but yeah, when they do people will have the sense to insulate them even if the builder does not do it for you. The news always tells you to open your sink if your pipes are on outside walls too. If houses are unoccupied and they lower the heat, they can put chemicals in the pipes to help keep them from freezing. Common in builder's models. They always have signs up that they have been winterized and you are not supposed to use the facilities.
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Post by engineerdoe on Feb 22, 2021 17:46:06 GMT -5
IDK, I know there is a national building code, and our corporate attorney used to b!tch all the time that even though we did not have Earthquakes and Hurricanes in the Midwest, our buildings still had to be able to withstand an earthquake - so why Texas buildings should not have to be built to withstand occasional freezing temps, idk. Not every house has a mortgage. Google says nearly 40% are owned free and clear. To your ETA: We generally avoid placing pipes on outside walls, but yeah, when they do people will have the sense to insulate them even if the builder does not do it for you. The news always tells you to open your sink if your pipes are on outside walls too. If houses are unoccupied and they lower the heat, they can put chemicals in the pipes to help keep them from freezing. Common in builder's models. They always have signs up that they have been winterized and you are not supposed to use the facilities. There are four Seismic Design Categories in the IBC. Most of the Midwest will fall into A and B categories which doesn't entail much difference in what the old UBC allowed for design. Category C is a little bit more stringent and Category D requires serious detailing and doesn't allow some types of construction. However, if the soil at the location you are building is poor, you will end up in Category C or D. The worst/strongest earthquake ever experienced in the US was in the Midwest (New Madrid). I'm from the Upper Peninsula of Michigan and have stuck my finger in the fault that runs through it (old copper mine in Hancock). Those fault lines are mostly dormant but you never know. Buildings are designed to resist the loads that occur where they are built, no more no less.
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Post by happyhoix on Feb 22, 2021 18:42:16 GMT -5
Ted Cruz voted down aid to NJ after hurricane Sandy. And they also have a pending bill for secession. Now Cruz is crying for help from the feds We have an adult in the WH who will do the right thing. I would find it very hard to help out TX after that. though sending food, water, and generators for hospitals as needed is fine with me. However, yesterday there was this one politician from Texas on a CNN interview who really PISSED ME OFF! The interviewer asked what Texas was going to do about the price gouging by that one provider (in I believe the Dallas area) and whether the state was going to help the homeowners being hit by bills of thousands of dollars per day. And his answer was "absolutely, we will use the federal disaster aid to make these people whole" ? How about just stopping the price gouging? Why should my tax money be used to increase the profit of a private company? I changed the channel really fast after that was said as I don't have a large enough supply of Tums to listen to this vile, clueless drivel I heard them talking about that issue this AM on TV the issue with the big electrical bills - and while I am not an expert and wasn’t listening with 100% concentration, it’s a company that you can opt into where you just pay what the market demands. So rather than pay 150 bucks a month, you pay based on what it cost for the company to obtain the power it needs for it’s customers. So I’m guessing in the summer when electrical bills are high, you pay more, but you get smaller bills in the winter (usually). But this winter, due to all this very unusual storm, the people getting their electricity through that broker now have enormous bills. I don’t know that the government will pay that back, though. I know when our house got run over by the tornado, we couldn’t apply for any FEMA money because we had insurance in our house and property (even though we ended up paying about 30K out of pocket to fix this shit shack back). Only industries, the township and the uninsured could apply for funds. I’m assuming that’s what will happen in TX.
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Post by bean29 on Feb 22, 2021 19:18:49 GMT -5
though sending food, water, and generators for hospitals as needed is fine with me. However, yesterday there was this one politician from Texas on a CNN interview who really PISSED ME OFF! The interviewer asked what Texas was going to do about the price gouging by that one provider (in I believe the Dallas area) and whether the state was going to help the homeowners being hit by bills of thousands of dollars per day. And his answer was "absolutely, we will use the federal disaster aid to make these people whole" ? How about just stopping the price gouging? Why should my tax money be used to increase the profit of a private company? I changed the channel really fast after that was said as I don't have a large enough supply of Tums to listen to this vile, clueless drivel I heard them talking about that issue this AM on TV the issue with the big electrical bills - and while I am not an expert and wasn’t listening with 100% concentration, it’s a company that you can opt into where you just pay what the market demands. So rather than pay 150 bucks a month, you pay based on what it cost for the company to obtain the power it needs for it’s customers. So I’m guessing in the summer when electrical bills are high, you pay more, but you get smaller bills in the winter (usually). But this winter, due to all this very unusual storm, the people getting their electricity through that broker now have enormous bills. I don’t know that the government will pay that back, though. I know when our house got run over by the tornado, we couldn’t apply for any FEMA money because we had insurance in our house and property (even though we ended up paying about 30K out of pocket to fix this shit shack back). Only industries, the township and the uninsured could apply for funds. I’m assuming that’s what will happen in TX. Yeah, and based on my understanding of how flood insurance works...what you get from the government is like a pooled amount, so you will probably just get a fraction of what your damages are. so if you have a $10,000 power bill you will prolly be lucky to get $1,000. I doubt your Homeowner's Insurance will cover the increased cost of utilities due to an unexpected winter storm, but I am not a lawyer, or a Texas Homeowner affected by the storm,so you won't see me trying to figure out if my insurance would pay in this instance.
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Post by countrygirl2 on Feb 23, 2021 13:21:47 GMT -5
I got banned for 24 hours from a forum because I said Texas brought this on themselves. I was not sufficiently sorry for them. I don't feel very sorry for those fool enough to vote people in that could care less about them. That old stand alone stuff is crazy and now they want us to bail them out. I resent it. I didn't get a chance to explain, but don't really care if I go back or not, hypocrites.
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Post by dondub on Feb 23, 2021 13:33:39 GMT -5
I got banned for 24 hours from a forum because I said Texas brought this on themselves. I was not sufficiently sorry for them. I don't feel very sorry for those fool enough to vote people in that could care less about them. That old stand alone stuff is crazy and now they want us to bail them out. I resent it. I didn't get a chance to explain, but don't really care if I go back or not, hypocrites.
Why would you want to be on a forum that bans you for telling the truth?
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Post by busymom on Feb 23, 2021 14:41:48 GMT -5
I got banned for 24 hours from a forum because I said Texas brought this on themselves. I was not sufficiently sorry for them. I don't feel very sorry for those fool enough to vote people in that could care less about them. That old stand alone stuff is crazy and now they want us to bail them out. I resent it. I didn't get a chance to explain, but don't really care if I go back or not, hypocrites.
Why would you want to be on a forum that bans you for telling the truth? Apparently, Texas normally has snowflakes. Who knew? That's how Countrygirl got banned.
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Post by bean29 on Feb 23, 2021 15:11:19 GMT -5
Why would you want to be on a forum that bans you for telling the truth? Apparently, Texas normally has snowflakes. Who knew? That's how Countrygirl got banned. Yeah, I was wondering if the moderator was from Texas. It does not sound like she said anything too outrageous. My Grandma used to say "You made your bed, no lie in it".
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Post by countrygirl2 on Feb 24, 2021 0:05:02 GMT -5
They said I was making fun of the tragedy. Doesn't matter, it was one that came on my facebook and I responded, don't even remember the name of it. Kind of why I was shocked. Must be somebody on my facebook belonged to it so came up on mine.
Repubs are very sensitive about people telling the truth as we know.
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