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Post by oped on Feb 12, 2021 19:08:11 GMT -5
My father was pissed he missed his annual hunting trip to Canada. He had been planning to skip the vaccine until he was told he probably won’t be going back to Canada, or anywhere else, if he’s not vaccinated.
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Post by Miss Tequila on Feb 12, 2021 20:39:22 GMT -5
We've managed to eradicate polio and smallpox from the U.S. by mandating vaccinations. Yes, the immune-compromised are exempted, but it's not really a personal choice. Don't have your shots? You can't go to public (and many private) schools unless you belong to one of the compromised groups. Sure, the anti-vaxers can find a way to exist, but the majority of people of people are vaccinated. I think it will be the same with COVID, particularly if boosters are required, once there is sufficient vaccine. I personally know very few people who don't want to be vaccinated and a lot of people who do. And I live in the South, which is pretty conservative about issues like this. If we eventually require it to go to school (with immune-compromised exceptions), fly in planes, etc., most of the population will do it. My worry is the black community. There is some resistance, at least in Alabama, because of the Tuskegee experiments. I understand the mistrust. Fortunately, many African-American ministers and political leaders are stepping up to take it as reassurance. That is so important. I have plenty of people on my FB that flat out refuse to get the covid vaccine. I really don't understand it. I'm honestly at the point, if idiots don't want the vaccine, it's just natural selection. As long as those that I love and care about get their vaccine, that's' all I care about. Over time, it is either going to get better and be just like the flu. Or enough people will die that people will decide that maybe they should get the vaccine.
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Post by Miss Tequila on Feb 12, 2021 20:40:14 GMT -5
My father was pissed he missed his annual hunting trip to Canada. He had been planning to skip the vaccine until he was told he probably won’t be going back to Canada, or anywhere else, if he’s not vaccinated. Eeks, I'm guessing that you are an are around the same age...therefore, your dad is no spring chicken! Why wouldn't he want the vaccine??
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2021 21:06:33 GMT -5
My father was pissed he missed his annual hunting trip to Canada. He had been planning to skip the vaccine until he was told he probably won’t be going back to Canada, or anywhere else, if he’s not vaccinated. And it is stuff like this that will get a lot of the nay-sayers vaccinated. They won't do it for themselves or the greater good, but they will do it for a hunting trip to Canada or to fly in a plane or to keep their job. The government got the majority of us to take the smallpox and polio vaccine. I don't see this as so very different. Multiple boosters will be harder as panic wears off, though.
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Post by oped on Feb 12, 2021 21:40:09 GMT -5
My father was pissed he missed his annual hunting trip to Canada. He had been planning to skip the vaccine until he was told he probably won’t be going back to Canada, or anywhere else, if he’s not vaccinated. Eeks, I'm guessing that you are an are around the same age...therefore, your dad is no spring chicken! Why wouldn't he want the vaccine?? Political reasons. My parents were teenagers when I was born, but not young.
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Post by Miss Tequila on Feb 12, 2021 21:41:15 GMT -5
Eeks, I'm guessing that you are an are around the same age...therefore, your dad is no spring chicken! Why wouldn't he want the vaccine?? Political reasons. My parents were teenagers when I was born, but not young. Gotcha
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Feb 12, 2021 22:42:13 GMT -5
My father was pissed he missed his annual hunting trip to Canada. He had been planning to skip the vaccine until he was told he probably won’t be going back to Canada, or anywhere else, if he’s not vaccinated. And it is stuff like this that will get a lot of the nay-sayers vaccinated. They won't do it for themselves or the greater good, but they will do it for a hunting trip to Canada or to fly in a plane or to keep their job. The government got the majority of us to take the smallpox and polio vaccine. I don't see this as so very different. Multiple boosters will be harder as panic wears off, though. LOL! I think this is going to work on m6 sister. If she wants to go with us, she’s gotta get vaccinated. I think Fiji is going to trump politics.
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Post by Ryan on Feb 13, 2021 0:11:56 GMT -5
I’m definitely willing to get a booster as often as recommended. Much better than the risk of Covid. I do worry that not enough people will think that way I was surprised to hear that like 50% of people got flu shots each year. That was higher than expected. I also think there are people that are more willing to take a covid shot, just due to the severity of the disease. But once per year vs. once every few months is different. I fear you are correct that we can't get 70-80% of the population to comply even getting the first shot, much less the booster. At times like this, I have to just step back and do the best I can. I will protect my family and myself. I will encourage others. But, if I can't convince someone, that is their cross to bear. 50% does seem high, but nowadays more workplaces bring the flu shot to the people so maybe that pumps the numbers up. Actually this year I was picking something up for my wife at the pharmacy and the pharmacist asked me if I want the shot. I don't remember them "selling" the shot as much as they have in recent years. This will come across as me sounding pretty dumb, but I never knew the flu was referring to something that could be tested/confirmed. I always thought that when people said they had the flu they meant they were just sick with a fever. After seeing how sick my wife was when she had it, I'm pretty sure that I've never gotten influenza.
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Post by Spellbound454 on Feb 13, 2021 5:09:29 GMT -5
Yes if you have had Flu you'll know about it....... fever, aching joints and in bed for a week. (Daughters boyfriend was in bed for 3 weeks with Swine flu) I have had it twice, once as a child and then a few years ago..... (ended up with pneumonia).....The one year I didn't get round to having a Flu shot, stupid me.
We haven't had much Flu this year because we are distancing, wearing masks etc and it is transmitted in the same way as Covid, though less infectious. I think they pushed the flu jab because they were concerned that people might get Covid and Flu at the same time which would be a lethal combination. It hasn't happened.
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Post by bobosensei on Feb 13, 2021 7:56:31 GMT -5
I’m definitely willing to get a booster as often as recommended. Much better than the risk of Covid. I do worry that not enough people will think that way I was surprised to hear that like 50% of people got flu shots each year. That was higher than expected. I also think there are people that are more willing to take a covid shot, just due to the severity of the disease. But once per year vs. once every few months is different. I fear you are correct that we can't get 70-80% of the population to comply even getting the first shot, much less the booster. At times like this, I have to just step back and do the best I can. I will protect my family and myself. I will encourage others. But, if I can't convince someone, that is their cross to bear. With flu shots being given in stores that give you a gift card and are free with your insurance that is a big draw. I’m not sure I would always get one if it was less convenient.
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Post by bobosensei on Feb 13, 2021 8:09:47 GMT -5
My father was pissed he missed his annual hunting trip to Canada. He had been planning to skip the vaccine until he was told he probably won’t be going back to Canada, or anywhere else, if he’s not vaccinated. And it is stuff like this that will get a lot of the nay-sayers vaccinated. They won't do it for themselves or the greater good, but they will do it for a hunting trip to Canada or to fly in a plane or to keep their job. The government got the majority of us to take the smallpox and polio vaccine. I don't see this as so very different. Multiple boosters will be harder as panic wears off, though. I hope you are right, but I think it was easier to get compliance years ago when folks would listen to their doctor and might be more community minded. Now every idiot thinks they are equally qualified to critique scientific work even when they barely passed it at a high school level. And they are emboldened by other idiots who spread lies. My concern is that with legislation passed to limit liability of businesses with COVID that no one will enforce the types of rules that require the vaccine because they don’t want to alienate customers. And most of the ones I know GA that won’t get the vaccine aren’t the type that leave the country. I don’t see schools here requiring it either unless they are made to by the federal government. Many counties here were majority in person from the start and wouldn’t require masks even. They give exemptions for things like religion so I’m sure we will have folks claiming those reasons to avoid it.
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Post by thyme4change on Feb 13, 2021 10:10:14 GMT -5
I was surprised to hear that like 50% of people got flu shots each year. That was higher than expected. I also think there are people that are more willing to take a covid shot, just due to the severity of the disease. But once per year vs. once every few months is different. I fear you are correct that we can't get 70-80% of the population to comply even getting the first shot, much less the booster. At times like this, I have to just step back and do the best I can. I will protect my family and myself. I will encourage others. But, if I can't convince someone, that is their cross to bear. With flu shots being given in stores that give you a gift card and are free with your insurance that is a big draw. I’m not sure I would always get one if it was less convenient. I hope we don't have to pay people to get a covid vaccine.
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Post by giramomma on Feb 14, 2021 9:06:31 GMT -5
With flu shots being given in stores that give you a gift card and are free with your insurance that is a big draw. I’m not sure I would always get one if it was less convenient. I hope we don't have to pay people to get a covid vaccine. Businesses already are trying to pay employees to get the shot.
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Post by giramomma on Feb 14, 2021 9:11:03 GMT -5
50% does seem high, but nowadays more workplaces bring the flu shot to the people so maybe that pumps the numbers up. Actually this year I was picking something up for my wife at the pharmacy and the pharmacist asked me if I want the shot. I don't remember them "selling" the shot as much as they have in recent years. This will come across as me sounding pretty dumb, but I never knew the flu was referring to something that could be tested/confirmed. I always thought that when people said they had the flu they meant they were just sick with a fever. After seeing how sick my wife was when she had it, I'm pretty sure that I've never gotten influenza. My son tested positive for the flu 3 years ago. He had strep too, thanks to the other parents at the kids' school who thought it was prudent to send their kids to school sick. We were on defcon 5 because my baby was like 5 weeks old. That's the only flu experience I've had, between myself, husband all the kids.
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Post by Miss Tequila on Feb 14, 2021 9:31:35 GMT -5
I was surprised to hear that like 50% of people got flu shots each year. That was higher than expected. I also think there are people that are more willing to take a covid shot, just due to the severity of the disease. But once per year vs. once every few months is different. I fear you are correct that we can't get 70-80% of the population to comply even getting the first shot, much less the booster. At times like this, I have to just step back and do the best I can. I will protect my family and myself. I will encourage others. But, if I can't convince someone, that is their cross to bear. 50% does seem high, but nowadays more workplaces bring the flu shot to the people so maybe that pumps the numbers up. Actually this year I was picking something up for my wife at the pharmacy and the pharmacist asked me if I want the shot. I don't remember them "selling" the shot as much as they have in recent years. This will come across as me sounding pretty dumb, but I never knew the flu was referring to something that could be tested/confirmed. I always thought that when people said they had the flu they meant they were just sick with a fever. After seeing how sick my wife was when she had it, I'm pretty sure that I've never gotten influenza. I’ve had the flu 3 times in my life. You would definitely know if you had it. I know a few people that never had the flu shot but got it this year. My husband is one of them. With the disaster with Covid, he decided he doesn’t want to risk getting sick and having to go the ER and then catch Covid.
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Post by thyme4change on Feb 14, 2021 10:02:02 GMT -5
I hope we don't have to pay people to get a covid vaccine. Businesses already are trying to pay employees to get the shot. That is actually okay with me. The businesses have a profitable reason to do so. Their employees need to stay healthy, so incentivizing them has an ROI. I just don't want the taxpayers to have to give every citizen twenty bucks to get vaccinated.
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Post by TheOtherMe on Feb 14, 2021 11:24:25 GMT -5
The bigger city near me was going to give each employee $100 to get the covid vaccine. It got in the newspaper. It caused an uproar. The city employees will no longer get $100 to get the vaccine.
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Post by movingforward on Feb 14, 2021 18:23:13 GMT -5
50% does seem high, but nowadays more workplaces bring the flu shot to the people so maybe that pumps the numbers up. Actually this year I was picking something up for my wife at the pharmacy and the pharmacist asked me if I want the shot. I don't remember them "selling" the shot as much as they have in recent years. This will come across as me sounding pretty dumb, but I never knew the flu was referring to something that could be tested/confirmed. I always thought that when people said they had the flu they meant they were just sick with a fever. After seeing how sick my wife was when she had it, I'm pretty sure that I've never gotten influenza. I’ve had the flu 3 times in my life. You would definitely know if you had it. I know a few people that never had the flu shot but got it this year. My husband is one of them. With the disaster with Covid, he decided he doesn’t want to risk getting sick and having to go the ER and then catch Covid. I got the flu shot for the first time this year. It was so incredibly easy. I happened to be at Walgreens in October and saw the sign "ask about getting the flu shot." I filled out a small amount of paperwork, handed over my insurance card, and got one immediately. It was so easy that I wondered why the heck I had never done it before. Now I will do it every year. My guess is a lot of us newbies that got it this year for the first time will now get one every year.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2021 22:25:59 GMT -5
I am fine if we give everyone a $20 gift certificate to be vaccinated, sort of like Publix does with a $10 gift certificate to get a flu shot.
It is a lot cheaper than a $1400 stimulus payment.
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Post by minnesotapaintlady on Feb 15, 2021 8:07:12 GMT -5
At our all-hands meeting last week the CEO hinted at making vaccination a condition of employment at some point. My guess is they won't go that far because it's sure to result in a loss of needed bodies, but I could definitely see them offering a bonus payment to do so.
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Post by oped on Feb 15, 2021 8:43:27 GMT -5
I honestly don’t think it’s fair to make emergency vaccines mandatory.
That said my dentist office has indicated that most people won’t get it due to not believing in it. And I will be looking for a new dentist.
It’s a challenging balance.
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Post by Miss Tequila on Feb 15, 2021 9:52:52 GMT -5
I honestly don’t think it’s fair to make emergency vaccines mandatory. That said my dentist office has indicated that most people won’t get it due to not believing in it. And I will be looking for a new dentist. It’s a challenging balance. Funny you should say that. I was at the dentist on Thursday and my hygienist told me she didn’t get it, even though the dentist made arrangements. She has to be in her mid to late 50s. I explained what I went through and asked her to really think hard if she wants to take the risk that she won’t be one to get severe Covid. She is at least 10 years older than me and just about the same size as me. She told me she was healthy and I said I was too. The only risk factor was my weight. It was probably going in one ear and out the other. But if I can convince one person with my story, I will feel good.
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Post by TheOtherMe on Feb 15, 2021 10:34:03 GMT -5
I honestly don’t think it’s fair to make emergency vaccines mandatory. That said my dentist office has indicated that most people won’t get it due to not believing in it. And I will be looking for a new dentist. It’s a challenging balance. What I have read is that as long as the vaccines are EULA's, they can not be made mandatory. Once they are no longer under emergency approval, they can be made mandatory. Many health care facilities make flu shots mandatory.
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Post by Cheesy FL-Vol on Feb 15, 2021 11:20:39 GMT -5
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