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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Feb 9, 2021 20:26:36 GMT -5
Or throwing the defense? Could the poor performance be deliberate?
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Post by NastyWoman on Feb 9, 2021 20:30:06 GMT -5
It won't matter. There are too many Loser loving Republican senators.
Color me cynical
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Feb 9, 2021 20:33:10 GMT -5
I know this still might slide off him, but does make you think.
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 9, 2021 20:58:21 GMT -5
I doubt they are throwing it. they simply have no case.
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Post by Tennesseer on Feb 9, 2021 21:04:39 GMT -5
Trump now has a problem hiring competent lawyers to represent him. He has ruined his reputation within the law firm industry.
Just last week his first pick of lawyers walked out on him.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2021 21:07:38 GMT -5
I know this still might slide off him, but does make you think. Might? He'll be acquitted no matter how incompetent they are, and they are incompetent. It doesn't sound to me like they know enough about the constitution to be doing it deliberately. In any case, it really doesn't matter because the repubs have already said they've made up their minds and won't vote to impeach. |
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Post by happyhoix on Feb 9, 2021 21:08:33 GMT -5
Trump now has a problem hiring competent lawyers to represent him. He has ruined his reputation within the law firm industry. Just last week his first pick of lawyers walked out on him. Well, his lawyers do tend to either end up in jail or being sued for enormous amounts of money. He’s down to the crazy lawyers now. |
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Feb 9, 2021 21:28:11 GMT -5
I know this still might slide off him, but does make you think. Might? He'll be acquitted no matter how incompetent they are, and they are incompetent. It doesn't sound to me like they know enough about the constitution to be doing it deliberately. In any case, it really doesn't matter because the repubs have already said they've made up their minds and won't vote to impeach. Please don’t burst my bubble! I have this wish that the GOP finally comes out of their 4 year insanity bubble and does what they should be doing. Ne can always wish....l |
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Post by tallguy on Feb 9, 2021 22:06:41 GMT -5
I don't know if they are good attorneys within their actual field or even what their field is, but they are not good at the task they are attempting. Even disregarding that there is no real case they can make here, and that they only came on board a week ago, that was a brutal performance. What it demonstrates even more is that Trump is going to be in big trouble if he gets charged later in other courts. Because he cannot attract good lawyers to represent him at this point, he will get badly hurt in an actual court of law. And I can't wait!
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 10, 2021 1:55:24 GMT -5
if he were smart, he would move to Dubai.
let's see how smart he is.
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Post by tbop77 on Feb 10, 2021 6:39:59 GMT -5
It doesn't really matter, he will never be convicted. They are scared of his base. Have you talked to any Republicans? They have every excuse in the book.
I hope they don't try that LAW AND ORDER crap again, I might die of laughter!
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Post by Bob Ross on Feb 10, 2021 9:38:26 GMT -5
I don't think they're throwing it. Pretending to be incompetent would hurt what credibility they have left. Plus the worse they do, the worse the GOP Senators will look for acquitting Trump. That being said, if I were one of the lawyers and wanted to throw it, I wouldn't even bother with legal arguments. Instead, I'd make the Senate sit through my Sock Puppet Theater rendition of 50 Shades of Gray.  |
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Post by laterbloomer on Feb 10, 2021 9:42:59 GMT -5
Might? He'll be acquitted no matter how incompetent they are, and they are incompetent. It doesn't sound to me like they know enough about the constitution to be doing it deliberately. In any case, it really doesn't matter because the repubs have already said they've made up their minds and won't vote to impeach. Please don’t burst my bubble! I have this wish that the GOP finally comes out of their 4 year insanity bubble and does what they should be doing. Ne can always wish....l I wish it was only 4 years, the GOP has been prepping for Trump for a long time. Remember these are the guys that ran Sarah Palin for VP. |
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Post by laterbloomer on Feb 10, 2021 9:44:42 GMT -5
Trump now has a problem hiring competent lawyers to represent him. He has ruined his reputation within the law firm industry. Just last week his first pick of lawyers walked out on him. Well, his lawyers do tend to either end up in jail or being sued for enormous amounts of money. He’s down to the crazy lawyers now. And not getting paid. I think that has a lot more to do with his difficulty getting anyone half decent. Pay enough and most of them will plug their nose and do the job, claiming that everyone deserves a vigorous defense. |
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Post by happyhoix on Feb 10, 2021 9:48:02 GMT -5
Well, his lawyers do tend to either end up in jail or being sued for enormous amounts of money. He’s down to the crazy lawyers now. And not getting paid. I think that has a lot more to do with his difficulty getting anyone half decent. Pay enough and most of them will plug their nose and do the job, claiming that everyone deserves a vigorous defense. Apparently Trump was furious about the crappy job his impeachment lawyers were doing. My first thought was ‘guess they won’t get paid.’ |
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Post by Tiny on Feb 10, 2021 10:03:58 GMT -5
I read (cnn? New York times? not sure) that hinted that perhaps the change in presentation order was done because of the opening the Democrats presented. I wonder if the "boring, rambling, WTF is he talking about??" speech was to try to disable/derail the emotions/thoughts the Democrats had stirred up with their opening video/presentation.
I suspect trump's lawyers are skilled at turning "shit" into "gold" - that's how they got where they are today. And that they will be using those skills primarily during the trial.
If anything, it might indicate that the opening volley from the Democrats have set trump's running to do "clean up" rather than present their case as originally planned. I'm guessing that was/is the main plan of the Democrats... take control and then try to keep it.
I strongly suspect that trump's team doesn't have a "solid winning" game plan. I think they will be playing "catch up" and "clean up" for most of the trial.
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 10, 2021 10:08:12 GMT -5
this reminds me of a science fair where Billy brings his cold fusion reactor and Donny brings his pet rock.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Feb 10, 2021 13:46:57 GMT -5
Well when the entire argument is "Me stable genius, Me won election. Democrats meany bad liars with pants on fire" it would take an Oscar winning script writer to be able to flesh that out into a full competent impeachment trial case.
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Post by tallguy on Feb 10, 2021 14:04:45 GMT -5
I had the thought this morning: "Could this be a career-ending moment for Bruce Castor? Even if the GOP senators do not vote to convict, his performance will not be forgotten."
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Post by swamp on Feb 10, 2021 14:15:51 GMT -5
I don't think they're throwing it. Pretending to be incompetent would hurt what credibility they have left. Plus the worse they do, the worse the GOP Senators will look for acquitting Trump. That being said, if I were one of the lawyers and wanted to throw it, I wouldn't even bother with legal arguments. Instead, I'd make the Senate sit through my Sock Puppet Theater rendition of 50 Shades of Gray. I <3 you |
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Post by Tennesseer on Feb 10, 2021 14:18:05 GMT -5
The impeachment managers are doing a good job today. A shame the majority of republican senators aren't listening.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Feb 10, 2021 14:42:03 GMT -5
I want to see a sock puppet version of 50 Shades of Grey. I am betting it will be far more entertaining that either the books or the movie.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2021 15:41:40 GMT -5
The impeachment managers are doing a good job today. A shame the majority of republican senators aren't listening. Why would they waste their time listening? They've already decided because, yanno, they took an oath "that in all things appertaining to the trial of the impeachment of Donald John Trump, president of the United States, now pending, I will do impartial justice according to the Constitution and laws, so help me God." Impartial = doodling, reading, scrolling through phones, texting. |
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Feb 10, 2021 16:03:44 GMT -5
I want to see a sock puppet version of 50 Shades of Grey. I am betting it will be far more entertaining that either the books or the movie. Me too..... |
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Post by thyme4change on Feb 10, 2021 23:38:33 GMT -5
I want to see a sock puppet version of 50 Shades of Grey. I am betting it will be far more entertaining that either the books or the movie. Avenue Q has some puppet sex, if that is close enough for you. Plus, it is a musical! |
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 10, 2021 23:44:55 GMT -5
I want to see a sock puppet version of 50 Shades of Grey. I am betting it will be far more entertaining that either the books or the movie. Avenue Q has some puppet sex, if that is close enough for you. Plus, it is a musical! for my money, it is Meet The Feebles. sex, drugs, rock-n-roll, muppets, and it is directed by Peter Jackson.
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Post by dondub on Feb 11, 2021 0:34:03 GMT -5
Avenue Q has some puppet sex, if that is close enough for you. Plus, it is a musical! for my money, it is Meet The Feebles. sex, drugs, rock-n-roll, muppets, and it is directed by Peter Jackson.
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Post by thyme4change on Feb 11, 2021 9:44:29 GMT -5
Avenue Q has some puppet sex, if that is close enough for you. Plus, it is a musical! for my money, it is Meet The Feebles. sex, drugs, rock-n-roll, muppets, and it is directed by Peter Jackson.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Feb 11, 2021 10:27:39 GMT -5
I want to see a sock puppet version of 50 Shades of Grey. I am betting it will be far more entertaining that either the books or the movie. Avenue Q has some puppet sex, if that is close enough for you. Plus, it is a musical! But it's not Bob Ross performing it.  I would like to see Avenue Q if it comes on tour around here sometime. |
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Post by swamp on Feb 11, 2021 15:19:50 GMT -5
So back to the original topic. Per Alan Dershowitz and Chris Christie, yes they are incompetent Christie even remarked he would use castor to show baby prosecutors what not to do.
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