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This Is the Most Hateful State in America
We used multiple data points to help us measure violent crime, hate crime, groups engaging in hate speech, and more general bias. First, we looked at the percentage of people with first- or second-hand experience of violent crime in the last year in each state, as reported in SafeWise's 2020 State of Safety in the Nation research report. Then, we factored in the number of hate groups operating per capita* according to the Southern Poverty Law Center. Next, we considered the number of hate crimes recorded per capita, using the most recent data from the Federal Bureau of Investigations (FBI). Finally, we added in Paychex's analysis of the amount of workplace discrimination complaints filed to the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) per capita. We then gave each metric a weighted value before running them through our exclusive algorithm to see how each state scored on our 100-point scale Hate Index, where 100 is the most hateful a state could be. Overall, states in the South came out higher on the Hate Index, with six Southern states sitting in the top 10 most hateful places. The Midwest also had two entries, while the Southwest and West each had one state up there. Northeastern states generally scored lower on the Hate Index. The five worst states: 1. Alabama 2. Tennessee 3. Mississippi 4. Arkansas 5. Ohio Complete article here and state rankings: link
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Post by Tennesseer on Feb 3, 2021 11:37:15 GMT -5
I am posting this on my tablet. I have to post the stuff in sections. If I try to do everything in one move, the back and forth between the article and this post results in everything being lost. If not saved each time I post a part, I lose all and have to start all over again. Tablet problem. Link now provided. I hate this tablet. Spent too much money on it to throw it in the trash.
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Post by busymom on Feb 3, 2021 14:43:22 GMT -5
I'm surprised, frankly, that Florida isn't higher on the list (they're #20). Maybe it just depends on which community you live in? We definitely had rabid Trumpers in the community we were living in.
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Post by mary2029 on Feb 3, 2021 15:42:45 GMT -5
I dislike slide shows too. This link has the entire article on one page. Hope it helps!
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 3, 2021 21:13:48 GMT -5
per capita?
because Idaho is a fucking cesspool of white authoritarianism.
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Post by kadee79 on Feb 3, 2021 22:06:05 GMT -5
They didn't take politics into account at all or that list would be totally different. Idaho & Wyoming for a start and at least the east half of Washington state too and then the south.
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Post by dondub on Feb 3, 2021 23:53:04 GMT -5
They didn't take politics into account at all or that list would be totally different. Idaho & Wyoming for a start and at least the east half of Washington state too and then the south. r Thanks to billsonboard’s neighbors😎we made #9 here in Washington!😱
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Post by Tennesseer on Feb 4, 2021 0:44:19 GMT -5
They didn't take politics into account at all or that list would be totally different. Idaho & Wyoming for a start and at least the east half of Washington state too and then the south. r Thanks to billsonboard’s neighbors😎we made #9 here in Washington!😱 We're #2 in more ways than one.
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Post by Icelandic Woman on Feb 4, 2021 15:43:06 GMT -5
I gotta say I am pretty surprised that Colorado is #13.
But I am not surprised that the top 5 states are red.
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 5, 2021 23:16:12 GMT -5
I gotta say I am pretty surprised that Colorado is #13.
But I am not surprised that the top 5 states are red. you get outside of the urban areas in CO and it is like fucking OK.
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That comment about "outside of urban areas" it gets less um, "friendly" seems to be true of most urban/rural-y kinds of places around America as I hear that same sentiment about other urban/rural places. And that does go along with the "there are two Americas". It must be very dangerous and scary to live in a rural place - someone is always trying to take away what you have. You have to protect what you have from everyone else.
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That comment about "outside of urban areas" it gets less um, "friendly" seems to be true of most urban/rural-y kinds of places around America as I hear that same sentiment about other urban/rural places. And that does go along with the "there are two Americas". It must be very dangerous and scary to live in a rural place - someone is always trying to take away what you have. You have to protect what you have from everyone else. I’m not sure where you get your ideas on rural areas. Crime rates in rural areas are lower than in both urban and suburban areas. That is from US Government data.
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That comment about "outside of urban areas" it gets less um, "friendly" seems to be true of most urban/rural-y kinds of places around America as I hear that same sentiment about other urban/rural places. And that does go along with the "there are two Americas". It must be very dangerous and scary to live in a rural place - someone is always trying to take away what you have. You have to protect what you have from everyone else. I’m not sure where you get your ideas on rural areas. Crime rates in rural areas are lower than in both urban and suburban areas. That is from US Government data. Is that because of all the guns everyone has and how one needs to keep everyone at a distance? Everytime someone (in my life) from "not here" comments on the "crime rate" here they are all "just shoot the M0th3r F#*ker$ and be done with it!" - we don't have crime like that here!" I would think if one goes thru everyday life thinking "if someone does something bad to me I will shoot them!"... then one must be prepared to shoot - all the time.
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 6, 2021 18:04:52 GMT -5
That comment about "outside of urban areas" it gets less um, "friendly" seems to be true of most urban/rural-y kinds of places around America as I hear that same sentiment about other urban/rural places. And that does go along with the "there are two Americas". It must be very dangerous and scary to live in a rural place - someone is always trying to take away what you have. You have to protect what you have from everyone else. I’m not sure where you get your ideas on rural areas. Crime rates in rural areas are lower than in both urban and suburban areas. That is from US Government data. agree with you, there.
white people seem to get along well enough with other white folks.
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Post by alabamagal on Feb 7, 2021 9:40:10 GMT -5
I’m not sure where you get your ideas on rural areas. Crime rates in rural areas are lower than in both urban and suburban areas. That is from US Government data. Is that because of all the guns everyone has and how one needs to keep everyone at a distance? Everytime someone (in my life) from "not here" comments on the "crime rate" here they are all "just shoot the M0th3r F#*ker$ and be done with it!" - we don't have crime like that here!" I would think if one goes thru everyday life thinking "if someone does something bad to me I will shoot them!"... then one must be prepared to shoot - all the time. Your understanding of people who live in rural areas is pretty lacking and based on stereotypes, and really kind of hateful, since that is the topic of this thread. Kind of like saying everyone who lives in urban areas are drug dealing gang members. I won’t deny that there are people that are members of hate groups in rural areas, heck my in laws are in that category. I have never lived in a rural area, more small city suburbs. I have many good friends who do live in rural areas. And they do not fit into your stereotype.
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Is that because of all the guns everyone has and how one needs to keep everyone at a distance? Everytime someone (in my life) from "not here" comments on the "crime rate" here they are all "just shoot the M0th3r F#*ker$ and be done with it!" - we don't have crime like that here!" I would think if one goes thru everyday life thinking "if someone does something bad to me I will shoot them!"... then one must be prepared to shoot - all the time. Your understanding of people who live in rural areas is pretty lacking and based on stereotypes, and really kind of hateful, since that is the topic of this thread. Kind of like saying everyone who lives in urban areas are drug dealing gang members. I won’t deny that there are people that are members of hate groups in rural areas, heck my in laws are in that category. I have never lived in a rural area, more small city suburbs. I have many good friends who do live in rural areas. And they do not fit into your stereotype. I get it. I was winking and nodding a bit. I do have people in my life from not urban areas who are all "it's ok to kill criminals" where criminals means anyone who does something bad to you or yours (or your community). That kind of talk combined with the number of gun owning people in not so urban areas - leads me to believe that the only reason "crime is so low" is because everyone carries a gun and every one is on the lookout for people doing "crime". All kidding aside: I strongly suspect that crime does happen in rural areas (that murders happen (drunks/high/angry people have fights/disagreements all the time and bad things happen), that husbands beat their wives and kids, that rape happens, that property gets stolen (you can be home ALL the time to protect your stuff and you can't always be watching your vehicle). worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/guns-per-capitaI mostly just wonder why people living in "low crime" areas might need to have so many guns? Who are they afraid of?
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 7, 2021 16:43:44 GMT -5
Is that because of all the guns everyone has and how one needs to keep everyone at a distance? Everytime someone (in my life) from "not here" comments on the "crime rate" here they are all "just shoot the M0th3r F#*ker$ and be done with it!" - we don't have crime like that here!" I would think if one goes thru everyday life thinking "if someone does something bad to me I will shoot them!"... then one must be prepared to shoot - all the time. Your understanding of people who live in rural areas is pretty lacking and based on stereotypes, and really kind of hateful, since that is the topic of this thread. Kind of like saying everyone who lives in urban areas are drug dealing gang members. I won’t deny that there are people that are members of hate groups in rural areas, heck my in laws are in that category. I have never lived in a rural area, more small city suburbs. I have many good friends who do live in rural areas. And they do not fit into your stereotype. it is arguable that climate has more to do with crime than anything else, if you isolate it from other variables.
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Post by daisylu on Feb 8, 2021 10:41:54 GMT -5
I mostly just wonder why people living in "low crime" areas might need to have so many guns? Who are they afraid of?
I would guess many are hunters. There are also animals that can be dangerous in rural areas. My husband never walks our property without a gun for this reason.
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Post by thyme4change on Feb 8, 2021 15:17:52 GMT -5
I mostly just wonder why people living in "low crime" areas might need to have so many guns? Who are they afraid of? I would guess many are hunters. There are also animals that can be dangerous in rural areas. My husband never walks our property without a gun for this reason. Shooting is fun. Even if they are just shooting cans off a fence, shooting different kinds of guns is a hobby.
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 8, 2021 21:45:33 GMT -5
I just noticed that at least two of the five states in the OP have Senators retiring in 2022. is it more than that? that might explain why they are retiring.
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Post by seriousthistime on Feb 9, 2021 9:55:04 GMT -5
That comment about "outside of urban areas" it gets less um, "friendly" seems to be true of most urban/rural-y kinds of places around America as I hear that same sentiment about other urban/rural places. And that does go along with the "there are two Americas". It must be very dangerous and scary to live in a rural place - someone is always trying to take away what you have. You have to protect what you have from everyone else. I’m not sure where you get your ideas on rural areas. Crime rates in rural areas are lower than in both urban and suburban areas. That is from US Government data. Having lived near rural areas for much of my life, I don't think it's crime per se that rural people are necessarily worried about. I think they worry about protecting their way of life. You know, immigrants taking away their jobs (even if the rural folks don't have a job, or own 1000 acres of farmland), marrying their sons and daughters, imposing their culture on rural life, etc. It's more fear of losing your way of life as you know it. There's far more comfort in knowing your daughter or son is likely to marry someone who looks like you do and acts like you do.
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Post by alabamagal on Feb 9, 2021 12:09:20 GMT -5
I just noticed that at least two of the five states in the OP have Senators retiring in 2022. is it more than that? that might explain why they are retiring. Shelby in AL is 86, well past age when he should be retiring. I think the others are late 50s/early 60s though.
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Post by pooks on Feb 9, 2021 13:27:58 GMT -5
per capita?
because Idaho is a fucking cesspool of white authoritarianism. Agreed. ID sucks. I doubt the police would charge a hate crime, so I doubt the data that didn't put it at the top of the list.
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Post by Icelandic Woman on Feb 11, 2021 11:37:16 GMT -5
I gotta say I am pretty surprised that Colorado is #13.
But I am not surprised that the top 5 states are red. you get outside of the urban areas in CO and it is like fucking OK. Yes the eastern and western plains and down south but not all the mountain towns especially the ski resorts are like that.
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Post by thyme4change on Feb 11, 2021 16:10:00 GMT -5
you get outside of the urban areas in CO and it is like fucking OK. Yes the eastern and western plains and down south but not all the mountain towns especially the ski resorts are like that. Isn't getting out of the urban areas in any state a little jarring? Not that every person in every rural area is weird. But to city folk, the general culture is different. You are looking at the world from a different angle, and that can make it look very different.
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Your understanding of people who live in rural areas is pretty lacking and based on stereotypes, and really kind of hateful, since that is the topic of this thread. Kind of like saying everyone who lives in urban areas are drug dealing gang members. I won’t deny that there are people that are members of hate groups in rural areas, heck my in laws are in that category. I have never lived in a rural area, more small city suburbs. I have many good friends who do live in rural areas. And they do not fit into your stereotype. it is arguable that climate has more to do with crime than anything else, if you isolate it from other variables. In a given geographic area, everyone had the same climate. In my town, the last murder was 8 years ago and it was a very sad domestic dispute. Prior to that, the last murder was in 1982. And I do not live in the suburbs. I love in a very blue collar area. Counter that with our “city” across the river. There were 30 murder in 2019 year. In 2013, same year that there was 1 murder in my town, there were 60 murders in this city. Most of the murders in the city are gang related and more often than not, the perpetrator and/or victim are from NJ, NY or Philly. It’s disgusting what is happening to my area. But my town has exactly the same climate so following your logic, we should have the same crime rate. Its not even close.
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Your understanding of people who live in rural areas is pretty lacking and based on stereotypes, and really kind of hateful, since that is the topic of this thread. Kind of like saying everyone who lives in urban areas are drug dealing gang members. I won’t deny that there are people that are members of hate groups in rural areas, heck my in laws are in that category. I have never lived in a rural area, more small city suburbs. I have many good friends who do live in rural areas. And they do not fit into your stereotype. I get it. I was winking and nodding a bit. I do have people in my life from not urban areas who are all "it's ok to kill criminals" where criminals means anyone who does something bad to you or yours (or your community). That kind of talk combined with the number of gun owning people in not so urban areas - leads me to believe that the only reason "crime is so low" is because everyone carries a gun and every one is on the lookout for people doing "crime". All kidding aside: I strongly suspect that crime does happen in rural areas (that murders happen (drunks/high/angry people have fights/disagreements all the time and bad things happen), that husbands beat their wives and kids, that rape happens, that property gets stolen (you can be home ALL the time to protect your stuff and you can't always be watching your vehicle). worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/guns-per-capitaI mostly just wonder why people living in "low crime" areas might need to have so many guns? Who are they afraid of? Maybe that’s why they have low crime? If I’m a criminal, am I going to risk breaking into a house that I know is armed to the teeth? Or rob the bleeding heart house that I know won’t shoot my ass??
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 11, 2021 20:44:44 GMT -5
it is arguable that climate has more to do with crime than anything else, if you isolate it from other variables. In a given geographic area, everyone had the same climate. In my town, the last murder was 8 years ago and it was a very sad domestic dispute. Prior to that, the last murder was in 1982. And I do not live in the suburbs. I love in a very blue collar area. Counter that with our “city” across the river. There were 30 murder in 2019 year. In 2013, same year that there was 1 murder in my town, there were 60 murders in this city. Most of the murders in the city are gang related and more often than not, the perpetrator and/or victim are from NJ, NY or Philly. It’s disgusting what is happening to my area. But my town has exactly the same climate so following your logic, we should have the same crime rate. Its not even close. you are drilling down more than me. I am just saying that crime is lower north of the 40th parallel, as a rule, than south of it, ALL OTHER THINGS REMAINING CONSTANT.
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