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Post by justme on Feb 1, 2021 21:26:27 GMT -5
It can be a struggle to be "unbiased" when all the facts point in one direction. In this case the only new evidence that could come to light to let Trump off the hook is that the former president was tied up in the basement of the White House and it wasn't actually him making those public statements. the GOP is trying to let him off the hook because his speech doesn't amount to incitement. but what the Frontline video shows is that he whipped his minions into a frenzy, and THEN gave that speech.
I think it is probably true that no rational person who had not been paying attention to that particular (violent, racist, anti-government) strain of Trump's persona would not be convinced to do anything more than march from his speech. but if you believed in Pizzagate and that Pelosi is Satan, and you want to hang Mike Pence, then having a PRESIDENT stand behind you and pretty much never criticize you qualifies as incitement.
we really need a Senate trial for that kind of thing to be presented.
That's probably part of the problem. Rational people that are repub hear what he says and is like you're off your rocker if he told them to do that! He said peacefully blah blah blah because to them what he said wouldn't make them storm the Capitol so it was either people doing it on their own or the antifa that actually did it. Which is so infuriating - just because you're not completely crazy doesn't mean trump's not playing to the completely crazy.
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 1, 2021 21:44:48 GMT -5
Yay! I feel better now. Seriously, this shmendrick has quite the shtick going, with all her meshuggeneh conspiracies . I hope the rest of Congress comes to what little sense they have left and schleps her out of there, kicks her tuches down the Capitol steps and right back under whatever fungus-infested rock she crawled out of in the first place. HA, that would be assuming the republican party has any sense. She'll probably run for president in 2024 and they will believe every word she says and vote for her. Renember: I'm going to build a wall and Mexico is going to pay for it I'm going to drain the swamp I'm going to lock Hillary up I'm going to reveal my beautiful healthcare plan She learned what appealed to them by the best con man the US has to offer! thing is, they don't care. they ONLY hear the dog whistle. that is it. it is a sad day for America.
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Post by tbop77 on Feb 2, 2021 6:24:18 GMT -5
Mitch McConnell, the top Republican in the US Senate, has intensified pressure on the extremist Georgia congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene, calling the “loony lies and conspiracy theories” that she endorses a “cancer for the Republican party”. “Somebody who’s suggested that perhaps no airplane hit the Pentagon on 9/11, that horrifying school shootings were pre-staged, and that the Clintons crashed JFK Jr’s airplane is not living in reality,” McConnell said. Has he been in a coma for the last four years? No Mitch, this is what your party has become. But never fear, Miss Trump wanna be has a response: In keeping with her defiant rejection of any criticism, Greene immediately fired back at McConnell through her Twitter feed. “The real cancer for the Republican party is weak Republicans who only know how to lose gracefully,” she said. www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/mcconnell-says-marjorie-taylor-greene-s-loony-lies-are-a-cancer-on-gop/ar-BB1diFe1?ocid=msedgntp
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Post by Opti on Feb 2, 2021 6:47:19 GMT -5
Mitch McConnell, the top Republican in the US Senate, has intensified pressure on the extremist Georgia congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene, calling the “loony lies and conspiracy theories” that she endorses a “cancer for the Republican party”. “Somebody who’s suggested that perhaps no airplane hit the Pentagon on 9/11, that horrifying school shootings were pre-staged, and that the Clintons crashed JFK Jr’s airplane is not living in reality,” McConnell said. Has he been in a coma for the last four years? No Mitch, this is what your party has become. But never fear, Miss Trump wanna be has a response: In keeping with her defiant rejection of any criticism, Greene immediately fired back at McConnell through her Twitter feed. “The real cancer for the Republican party is weak Republicans who only know how to lose gracefully,” she said. www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/mcconnell-says-marjorie-taylor-greene-s-loony-lies-are-a-cancer-on-gop/ar-BB1diFe1?ocid=msedgntpBecause losing like toddlers that don't know election laws is strong to her? Its not strength to acted like a spoiled brat if you lose.
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Post by chiver78 on Feb 2, 2021 7:55:27 GMT -5
There is now a clip of her saying Jewish space lasers started the most recent California wildfires. Of course they did. The news last night had a reporter asking one of Greene’s Dalton constituents what she thought about her, and the constituent said ‘I think she’s crazy, I mean literally, she’s a lunatic. ‘ Amen, sister. I loved her mask that said "CENSURED". No, you aren't being censured. You are free to say whatever you wish. You are, however, going to held to account for what you say. are you sure that's what it said? I saw one that said "CENSORED". ETA: nevermind, I see it's already been addressed.
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Post by tbop77 on Feb 3, 2021 7:22:35 GMT -5
Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy — who is under increasing pressure to discipline the Georgia Republican for her past offensive and incendiary rhetoric — called an emergency late-night meeting in his office with the House GOP Steering Committee after he met face-to-face with Greene earlier in the evening. But they made no final decision about how to proceed, and lawmakers headed home after the meeting wrapped-up for the evening. Greene was awarded seats last week on the House Education and Labor Committee, as well as the House Budget Committee. www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/house-gop-delays-taking-action-on-marjorie-taylor-greene/ar-BB1dkOP9?ocid=msedgntpThey won't do a damn thing to her, they are afraid she'll run to Daddy Trump!
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Post by mary2029 on Feb 3, 2021 8:00:25 GMT -5
They won't do a damn thing to her, they are afraid she'll run to Daddy Trump! I am actually glad of this. If the House GOP kicks her off these committees, they would be doing it because of her posts or videos from BEFORE she was elected. The people in her community voted her in and she was making national noise before she was elected. Parts of Georgia owns that. The House GOP allowed/voted her onto the committees (I don't know how this works). They own that. Any action now would be overstepping the House bounds, IMO. She is only a Rep. for 2 years. I want her to get as much attention as possible so she won't get reelected and the GOP gets more and more embarrassed.
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Post by happyhoix on Feb 3, 2021 8:29:38 GMT -5
They won't do a damn thing to her, they are afraid she'll run to Daddy Trump! I am actually glad of this. If the House GOP kicks her off these committees, they would be doing it because of her posts or videos from BEFORE she was elected. The people in her community voted her in and she was making national noise before she was elected. Parts of Georgia owns that. The House GOP allowed/voted her onto the committees (I don't know how this works). They own that. Any action now would be overstepping the House bounds, IMO. She is only a Rep. for 2 years. I want her to get as much attention as possible so she won't get reelected and the GOP gets more and more embarrassed. It would be possible for the Georgia GOP to re district her out of a job, if they wanted to. I’m sure the GA GOP is doing a lot of soul searching right now to figure out why they went blue. Hopefully they will realize voter suppression won’t work in the long run and they need to be a bigger tent, which means racist loons like Greene have to go.
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Post by pulmonarymd on Feb 3, 2021 9:35:20 GMT -5
They won't do a damn thing to her, they are afraid she'll run to Daddy Trump! I am actually glad of this. If the House GOP kicks her off these committees, they would be doing it because of her posts or videos from BEFORE she was elected. The people in her community voted her in and she was making national noise before she was elected. Parts of Georgia owns that. The House GOP allowed/voted her onto the committees (I don't know how this works). They own that. Any action now would be overstepping the House bounds, IMO. She is only a Rep. for 2 years. I want her to get as much attention as possible so she won't get reelected and the GOP gets more and more embarrassed. You really think she deserves to be on the Education committee based on her past statements? If someone believed in voodoo to heal medical problems, I would expect that they would not sit on a committee that deals with medicine. Crazy needs to have some consequences, or we will all have to deal with her going down the rabbit hole. She can be a representative, and she can be on a committee that has little to do with her crazy views,
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Feb 3, 2021 10:27:24 GMT -5
If the people want her representing them fine but that should not mean her behavior gets rewarded with committee positions. That is the part that disgusts me. Meanwhile once again Merrick is being held up in the approval process because he's been nominated by a democrat.
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Post by thyme4change on Feb 3, 2021 11:09:20 GMT -5
Are they taking a vote today to pull her off the education committee?
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Feb 3, 2021 14:43:47 GMT -5
If the people want her representing them fine but that should not mean her behavior gets rewarded with committee positions. That is the part that disgusts me. Meanwhile once again Merrick is being held up in the approval process because he's been nominated by a democrat.I wonder what the history is between Garland Merrick and The Turtle is? This almost looks personally vindictive against him in particular.
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Post by thyme4change on Feb 3, 2021 15:31:54 GMT -5
If the people want her representing them fine but that should not mean her behavior gets rewarded with committee positions. That is the part that disgusts me. Meanwhile once again Merrick is being held up in the approval process because he's been nominated by a democrat.I wonder what the history is between Garland Merrick and The Turtle is? This almost looks personally vindictive against him in particular. Usually they take a month or so to confirm, and apparently he wasn't officially nominated until last week (I guess there is paperwork or something to review). So, this might not be as crazy-controlling as it seems. It might just be a matter of following standard procedure. That said, the GOP have been such utter assholes about rules and norms and manipulating them, so they don't get a full pass on this one.
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Post by mary2029 on Feb 3, 2021 15:52:09 GMT -5
I am actually glad of this. If the House GOP kicks her off these committees, they would be doing it because of her posts or videos from BEFORE she was elected. The people in her community voted her in and she was making national noise before she was elected. Parts of Georgia owns that. The House GOP allowed/voted her onto the committees (I don't know how this works). They own that. Any action now would be overstepping the House bounds, IMO. She is only a Rep. for 2 years. I want her to get as much attention as possible so she won't get reelected and the GOP gets more and more embarrassed. You really think she deserves to be on the Education committee based on her past statements? If someone believed in voodoo to heal medical problems, I would expect that they would not sit on a committee that deals with medicine. Crazy needs to have some consequences, or we will all have to deal with her going down the rabbit hole. She can be a representative, and she can be on a committee that has little to do with her crazy views, Oh no! I don't think she deserves anything. However, I want to rub the GOP's nose in the shit that they have created the last four years. I want her name to be connected to any and all crazy theories she has spouted (e.g., RBG died years ago and replaced with a body double), so she is forever branded as a wacko.
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Post by billisonboard on Feb 3, 2021 16:01:01 GMT -5
Substitute in crazy for mediocre: In 1970, Hruska addressed the Senate, urging them to confirm Richard Nixon's nomination of G. Harrold Carswell to the Supreme Court. Responding to criticism that Carswell had been a mediocre judge, Hruska argued:
Even if he were mediocre, there are a lot of mediocre judges and people and lawyers. They are entitled to a little representation, aren't they, and a little chance? We can't have all Brandeises, Frankfurters and Cardozos. link
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Feb 3, 2021 16:24:33 GMT -5
I wonder what the history is between Garland Merrick and The Turtle is? This almost looks personally vindictive against him in particular. Usually they take a month or so to confirm, and apparently he wasn't officially nominated until last week (I guess there is paperwork or something to review). So, this might not be as crazy-controlling as it seems. It might just be a matter of following standard procedure. That said, the GOP have been such utter assholes about rules and norms and manipulating them, so they don't get a full pass on this one. Until you look at how quickly they jumped onto the ACB Supreme Court nomination, and that is a lifetime appointment. They can move faster if they want to.
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Post by irishpad on Feb 3, 2021 17:02:56 GMT -5
If the people want her representing them fine but that should not mean her behavior gets rewarded with committee positions. That is the part that disgusts me. Meanwhile once again Merrick is being held up in the approval process because he's been nominated by a democrat.I wonder what the history is between Garland Merrick and The Turtle is? This almost looks personally vindictive against him in particular. It was Ted Cruz who threw a wrench in the confirmation process this time.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Feb 3, 2021 17:04:20 GMT -5
I wonder what the history is between Garland Merrick and The Turtle is? This almost looks personally vindictive against him in particular. It was Ted Cruz who threw a wrench in the confirmation process this time. That man needs to crawl back into what ever primordial ooze he came from.
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Post by The Walk of the Penguin Mich on Feb 3, 2021 17:08:24 GMT -5
It was Ted Cruz who threw a wrench in the confirmation process this time. That man needs to crawl back into what ever rejected primordial ooze he came from. Fixed.
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Post by djAdvocate on Feb 3, 2021 20:39:30 GMT -5
doze whackadoos make front page news.
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Are they taking a vote today to pull her off the education committee? The GOP group did. Greene claimed she didn’t believe in Q and thought the school shootings were real. Plus she claims she doesn’t know what Jewish space lasers are. They let her keep her committees. The Dems say they want the whole House to vote on it. Greene claims she is being picked on but raised six figures whining on Facebook about how mean everyone is to her. So will it take 50% or 2/3 for the House to strip her of her committees?
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Post by thyme4change on Feb 4, 2021 8:02:12 GMT -5
Are they taking a vote today to pull her off the education committee? The GOP group did. Greene claimed she didn’t believe in Q and thought the school shootings were real. Plus she claims she doesn’t know what Jewish space lasers are. They let her keep her committees. The Dems say they want the whole House to vote on it. Greene claims she is being picked on but raised six figures whining on Facebook about how mean everyone is to her. So will it take 50% or 2/3 for the House to strip her of her committees? So....what was her explanation for the tweets and videos of her saying the opposite.
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Post by mary2029 on Feb 4, 2021 8:12:33 GMT -5
Are they taking a vote today to pull her off the education committee? The GOP group did. Greene claimed she didn’t believe in Q and thought the school shootings were real. Plus she claims she doesn’t know what Jewish space lasers are. They let her keep her committees. The Dems say they want the whole House to vote on it. Greene claims she is being picked on but raised six figures whining on Facebook about how mean everyone is to her. So will it take 50% or 2/3 for the House to strip her of her committees? From how I have read news arricles, etc, I understand that the House GOP meet with Greene, she spoke, a quarter of the House GOPs stood up and applauded, McCarthy made a stance against her, and then decided to do no action. So there was no vote. But, like Gina says, I could be wrong, I've been wrong before. Today's CNN article ("House to vote on removing MTG from committee assignments") states that it will only take a simple majority to remove her.
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Post by happyhoix on Feb 4, 2021 10:49:03 GMT -5
The GOP group did. Greene claimed she didn’t believe in Q and thought the school shootings were real. Plus she claims she doesn’t know what Jewish space lasers are. They let her keep her committees. The Dems say they want the whole House to vote on it. Greene claims she is being picked on but raised six figures whining on Facebook about how mean everyone is to her. So will it take 50% or 2/3 for the House to strip her of her committees? From how I have read news arricles, etc, I understand that the House GOP meet with Greene, she spoke, a quarter of the House GOPs stood up and applauded, McCarthy made a stance against her, and then decided to do no action. So there was no vote. But, like Gina says, I could be wrong, I've been wrong before. Today's CNN article ("House to vote on removing MTG from committee assignments") states that it will only take a simple majority to remove her. They’ll vote to remove her from the committees, but not from the House, right?
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Post by happyhoix on Feb 4, 2021 10:50:43 GMT -5
The GOP group did. Greene claimed she didn’t believe in Q and thought the school shootings were real. Plus she claims she doesn’t know what Jewish space lasers are. They let her keep her committees. The Dems say they want the whole House to vote on it. Greene claims she is being picked on but raised six figures whining on Facebook about how mean everyone is to her. So will it take 50% or 2/3 for the House to strip her of her committees? So....what was her explanation for the tweets and videos of her saying the opposite. Well she said ‘sorry.’ So - that erases everything that happened before, I guess. 😡
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Post by Rukh O'Rorke on Feb 4, 2021 11:14:54 GMT -5
So....what was her explanation for the tweets and videos of her saying the opposite. Well she said ‘sorry.’ So - that erases everything that happened before, I guess. 😡 while I agree it isn't a lot, I do think it is valuable to have some of these nuts called onto the carpet and admit what is and isn't real. I feel like this one will turn again and cite censoreship! they made me do it!, but, well....
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Post by billisonboard on Feb 4, 2021 11:55:59 GMT -5
So....what was her explanation for the tweets and videos of her saying the opposite. Well she said ‘sorry.’ So - that erases everything that happened before, I guess. 😡 When I was student teaching a student was consistently have a side conversation. I would ask him to stop, he would say "sorry", and go right back to talking. I called him out again, he said "sorry", I said, "not good enough, stop talking", "but I said I was sorry". He seemed genuinely confused. I surmised that in his white middle class LDS family that was the rule, you were forgiven if you said you were sorry.
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Post by mary2029 on Feb 4, 2021 12:14:40 GMT -5
From how I have read news arricles, etc, I understand that the House GOP meet with Greene, she spoke, a quarter of the House GOPs stood up and applauded, McCarthy made a stance against her, and then decided to do no action. So there was no vote. But, like Gina says, I could be wrong, I've been wrong before. Today's CNN article ("House to vote on removing MTG from committee assignments") states that it will only take a simple majority to remove her. They’ll vote to remove her from the committees, but not from the House, right? Correct. If anybody is interested in signing an open letter to Republican Members of Congress re: Greene, here is a link to twitter, which includes a link to the letter:
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