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Post by TheOtherMe on Nov 23, 2020 16:19:02 GMT -5
Our hospital just stopped all elective surgery. Local hospitals are only doing elective surgeries that won't require an overnight hospital stay. I am guessing that means they are using the standalone site that is part of their system.
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Post by Lizard Queen on Nov 23, 2020 16:22:26 GMT -5
Our hospital just stopped all elective surgery. I suspect others are as well. My local hospital went to this status weeks ago.
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Post by pulmonarymd on Nov 23, 2020 16:32:58 GMT -5
Sorry to hear he needs oxygen. He is young and will recover. Sincerely hoping you don’t test positive . Good for you isolating from your vulnerable family. Can tell just In just this small group of people on the BB that COVID is more widespread now we are learning of people they know, themselves getting Covid. In the spring no one posting knew close people or themselves had Covid Thanks to God and all who are helping to bring us effective and safe vaccines so amazingly fast to rid ourselves of this plaque Take care all You do not know that!
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Post by movingforward on Nov 23, 2020 17:02:38 GMT -5
Our hospitals are taking in patients from surrounding areas.
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Post by skeeter on Nov 23, 2020 21:11:40 GMT -5
TheHaitian How is your brother doing today? Hoping everyone in your family will get through this ok.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2020 21:48:46 GMT -5
We get two weeks paid IF you test positive. I can use my PTO but it's frowned upon and heavily encouraged you come back as soon as you test negative because we are considered "essential". We were told no need to quarantine if we test negative because we have a mask policy now. Umm..that's not how masks work. Very little is done to keep us safe. I lost my "privilege" to be safer via swing shift due to one coworker not being able to properly prioritize. Another department refused to not use the shared office for a couple months because walking sucks. I know you can report businesses but it would not be hard at this company to narrow down who it may be. Given the political climate if they figured it out my life would be he'll and they'd likely find a way to get rid of me. Now is not the time to be looking for another job. So I suck it up buttercup.. All this is a contributing factor to me planning to start looking again in the next couple years. A lot of people bash unions, but I absolutely believe that my employer would handle things much differently (worse) if not for our unions pushing to try to protect us. I got more pertinent information from my union than I did from my employer back in the spring. When I had to quarantine in April due to someone I’d been working closely with testing positive, my local union president was in constant contact with me, the person that was positive, my coworkers that had also worked with that person, and my employer, to make sure we got paid per the temporary National agreement and didn’t have any problems from our managers. In my opinion, getting through this mess requires all of us working together, including employers working with employees that have been exposed to the virus and employees that are sick. It doesn’t benefit us as a whole to not allow people to quarantine when needed. I remember one year, a lot of people in my building had the flu. People were coming to work sick, I guess out of fear of getting in trouble or not having leave and not wanting to miss their money, and it was like the flu just ran rampant through the building so many people got it that year. And even at the time, I believed that so many employees were getting it because people were coming to work when they were sick. How COVID is spreading isn’t that much different from how the flu spread through my workplace that winter, with the added problem of people not even knowing they have it spreading it too. Sometimes we as individuals need to do what’s best for the common good, and so should employers when we’re talking about a pandemic like this. I know money makes the world go ‘round, but to me, some things are more important than money, like trying to prevent serious illness and lost lives. That’s just my opinion though, and in some circles, it’s a very unpopular opinion.
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Post by justme on Nov 23, 2020 22:39:22 GMT -5
My biggest problem with unions is that they only work when there's a lot of people doing similar work. Which is why they had their hey day when we did a lot of manufacturing. Though they work decently for the hourly service jobs. But it doesn't quite work the same when you get to white cost jobs. Unless it's a huge company, there's usually no one else doing the same thing as you and probably only a few doing something similar - so bargaining together on the salary side becomes something huge.
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Post by NomoreDramaQ1015 on Nov 23, 2020 22:40:28 GMT -5
We get two weeks paid IF you test positive. I can use my PTO but it's frowned upon and heavily encouraged you come back as soon as you test negative because we are considered "essential". We were told no need to quarantine if we test negative because we have a mask policy now. Umm..that's not how masks work. Very little is done to keep us safe. I lost my "privilege" to be safer via swing shift due to one coworker not being able to properly prioritize. Another department refused to not use the shared office for a couple months because walking sucks. I know you can report businesses but it would not be hard at this company to narrow down who it may be. Given the political climate if they figured it out my life would be he'll and they'd likely find a way to get rid of me. Now is not the time to be looking for another job. So I suck it up buttercup.. All this is a contributing factor to me planning to start looking again in the next couple years. A lot of people bash unions, but I absolutely believe that my employer would handle things much differently (worse) if not for our unions pushing to try to protect us. I got more pertinent information from my union than I did from my employer back in the spring. When I had to quarantine in April due to someone I’d been working closely with testing positive, my local union president was in constant contact with me, the person that was positive, my coworkers that had also worked with that person, and my employer, to make sure we got paid per the temporary National agreement and didn’t have any problems from our managers. In my opinion, getting through this mess requires all of us working together, including employers working with employees that have been exposed to the virus and employees that are sick. It doesn’t benefit us as a whole to not allow people to quarantine when needed. I remember one year, a lot of people in my building had the flu. People were coming to work sick, I guess out of fear of getting in trouble or not having leave and not wanting to miss their money, and it was like the flu just ran rampant through the building so many people got it that year. And even at the time, I believed that so many employees were getting it because people were coming to work when they were sick. How COVID is spreading isn’t that much different from how the flu spread through my workplace that winter, with the added problem of people not even knowing they have it spreading it too. Sometimes we as individuals need to do what’s best for the common good, and so should employers when we’re talking about a pandemic like this. I know money makes the world go ‘round, but to me, some things are more important than money, like trying to prevent serious illness and lost lives. That’s just my opinion though, and in some circles, it’s a very unpopular opinion. I'm going to do what I can to protect myself but I've honestly stopped caring about all but two, maybe three on a good day, people I work with. It's been made clear my health and by extension my family's is of non importance and is free to used as office drama and political fodder. We all go down screw the company. Screw my coworkers. Hope this was all worth it because it's not a matter of if but WHEN and if it's us we may also take out production. Oh well.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2020 23:54:10 GMT -5
Other countries pay their people to help them live while taking steps to control the pandemic.
In the US, money is all going to the top and screw the minimum wage workers. It's no surprise why this is so out of control.
You can't expect people to stay home and flatten the curve if you aren't willing to pay them so their families can have heat, food, and pay the rent. It's not realistic.
And, all those low-wage workers work in healthcare (nursing homes, housekeeping, etc...), schools, grocery stores, and other places many of us go on a regular basis.
See the huge food lines already forming? Think those folks will miss work because they feel sick? Or if they test positive but are asymptomatic?
If we continue to act as we have, we continue exponential growth.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2020 10:36:18 GMT -5
My biggest problem with unions is that they only work when there's a lot of people doing similar work. Which is why they had their hey day when we did a lot of manufacturing. Though they work decently for the hourly service jobs. But it doesn't quite work the same when you get to white cost jobs. Unless it's a huge company, there's usually no one else doing the same thing as you and probably only a few doing something similar - so bargaining together on the salary side becomes something huge. No, they don’t have the power they use to have, for the reasons you mentioned. I was just saying that I’m glad my job is a union job, especially right now because I believe that if they could, my employer would be harsh with us despite the pandemic. My main point is ALL employers need to allow their employees to quarantine when needed, to help stop the spread. We’re supposed to be the greatest nation on earth, and we can’t figure out how to make that work.
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Post by TheHaitian on Nov 24, 2020 11:43:33 GMT -5
At my Dr office currently waiting. They question why would I want another COVID test / if required because the last one came back negative and I am still not showing any symptoms. Also off course they mention how they running low on it so I am guessing they rather save it for the people that actually may have COVID.
I told them I would still like to have one though, thank you very much. Also I am getting the antibody test. She also was not too crazy about the antibody test and said to take it with a grain of salt because : it does not change anything moving forward (still have to wear mask, take precautions and we don’t know if it actually helps with immunity) and if negative still does not mean at some point I was not exposed and the antibodies have fallen off. But out of curiosity I still want to get it too.
And again the Dr just said if I get another COVID test today I need to quarantine till I get my results back on Friday (or Monday with the Holiday) then go back to work. I think everyone here feels I am wasting their time and wasting a good test for nothing...
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Post by TheHaitian on Nov 24, 2020 11:59:55 GMT -5
Ok all done, they put that little stringy thing up my nose again (bleh) and took blood for the antibody test. About to piss off the boss now when I call him.
Brother still in the hospital and still on oxygen. I think a lot of it is also mental for him because he also doesn’t want to be discharged; he rather stay at the hospital where he is surrounded by nurses and Dr’s.
We think (mom, cousin and I) that he probably had a panic attack or anxiety attack at the hotel and that is why he was worse. Alone in the hotel room with your thoughts and the TV screaming how many people have died from COVID will make you think things not at all pleasant.
They are trying to force or encourage him to lay of the oxygen and let his lungs do the heavy lifting so they can get stronger. He said the fever leaves and come back, and so does the coughing.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2020 12:14:49 GMT -5
At least you were able to get tested. In Oregon, unless you are showing symptoms you can't. They don't have the tests for it.
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Post by TheHaitian on Nov 24, 2020 13:00:06 GMT -5
At least you were able to get tested. In Oregon, unless you are showing symptoms you can't. They don't have the tests for it. Yep they tried to use the same logic with me that I was not showing any symptoms, go home and chill; leave the test for those that actually need it. How do you know I don’t actually need it and not showing symptoms? Because like I told the Dr I go back to work tomorrow without that test; you want me to take that risk? ———————- Spoke with my brother, he is not doing to well. They took him off the oxygen this morning which we were expecting and he had trouble breathing. By the time they came back to check on him; he was down to 87 he said. So they put him back on oxygen. Hopefully as the day progresses he will be better !
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Post by ners on Nov 24, 2020 13:30:16 GMT -5
Hope your brother starts feeling better.
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Post by TheHaitian on Nov 24, 2020 14:37:12 GMT -5
Hope your brother starts feeling better. Thank you
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Post by movingforward on Nov 24, 2020 17:02:33 GMT -5
Hope your brother starts feeling better soon. My best friend's uncle, who is in the hospital with covid, is also having a lot of anxiety. He has had a couple of panic attacks. They keep telling him he needs to calm down because the anxiety is making everything worse. That seems easier said than done. Feeling like you can't breathe well is going to cause anxiety, especially in those already prone to panic attacks.
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Post by laterbloomer on Nov 24, 2020 18:57:04 GMT -5
Sending thoughts for your brother. And good on you for doing the second test. I really hope you are just exercising "an abundance of caution"
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2020 19:13:23 GMT -5
My BFF's husband has been in the hospital now for 5 weeks. He had a ruptured colon or something like that. He has bounced in and out of hospitals and rehab.
He went back to the hospital yesterday because his temperature was 102.5. My friend had to ride the elevator up to the ER with another couple. They were right behind her when she went to the Admissions desk.
After she did her part, she heard the wife say, "He has COVID. He is really, really sick and is not doing well." My friend is like, "WTF? They couldn't have said that I might not want to ride up in the elevator with them?"
Even worse is that when she told her husband's nurses that she rode in the elevator with someone "really, really sick" with COVID, she was told not to worry about it. "Many of the people you pass in WM have COVID," she was told. They were all wearing masks. She can still visit and stay with her husband just like she was.
That makes no sense to me. Her husband already has pneumonia.
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Post by ners on Nov 27, 2020 9:34:35 GMT -5
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Post by sesfw on Nov 27, 2020 11:23:42 GMT -5
Carl ....... I'm joining ners ....... how is the whole family doing?
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Post by Miss Tequila on Nov 27, 2020 13:10:17 GMT -5
A lot of people bash unions, but I absolutely believe that my employer would handle things much differently (worse) if not for our unions pushing to try to protect us. I got more pertinent information from my union than I did from my employer back in the spring. When I had to quarantine in April due to someone I’d been working closely with testing positive, my local union president was in constant contact with me, the person that was positive, my coworkers that had also worked with that person, and my employer, to make sure we got paid per the temporary National agreement and didn’t have any problems from our managers. In my opinion, getting through this mess requires all of us working together, including employers working with employees that have been exposed to the virus and employees that are sick. It doesn’t benefit us as a whole to not allow people to quarantine when needed. I remember one year, a lot of people in my building had the flu. People were coming to work sick, I guess out of fear of getting in trouble or not having leave and not wanting to miss their money, and it was like the flu just ran rampant through the building so many people got it that year. And even at the time, I believed that so many employees were getting it because people were coming to work when they were sick. How COVID is spreading isn’t that much different from how the flu spread through my workplace that winter, with the added problem of people not even knowing they have it spreading it too. Sometimes we as individuals need to do what’s best for the common good, and so should employers when we’re talking about a pandemic like this. I know money makes the world go ‘round, but to me, some things are more important than money, like trying to prevent serious illness and lost lives. That’s just my opinion though, and in some circles, it’s a very unpopular opinion. I'm going to do what I can to protect myself but I've honestly stopped caring about all but two, maybe three on a good day, people I work with. It's been made clear my health and by extension my family's is of non importance and is free to used as office drama and political fodder. We all go down screw the company. Screw my coworkers. Hope this was all worth it because it's not a matter of if but WHEN and if it's us we may also take out production. Oh well. This is not meant to be argumentative but a serious question. You seem very angry that you have to have a “butt in the chair” for 8 hours, mad that office people can work “from the safety of their home”, keep saying “my employer only cares about the bottom line”. But then you make the decision to send your kids to dance classes (or gymnastics? I forget) because “if we are all stuck in the house all the time, someone isn’t making it out” (paraphrasing as I’m not going to spend the time to look up the actual quotes). Why do you feel so unsafe at work but feel that your kids and the staff at the dance studio (or wherever they are going) are so safe? And you are still working at a restaurant where you have people comig in and out. Even if it is only for take out, there is no way to know if the people coming into the restaurant have Covid or not. I’m seriously confused on your anger towards your employer, considering you aren’t just hunkering down and waiting this out.
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Post by TheHaitian on Nov 27, 2020 16:09:13 GMT -5
Hey everyone, brother made a full turn yesterday. He woke up feeling better and was breathing much better on his on, he even reached the max on the breathing thing. So yesterday they lowered his oxygen and by the end of the day he was off it completely.
The dr this morning felt he was well enough to be discharged and at about 1 PM arranged for him to be taken back to the hotel. Just spoke to him and he is at the hotel and still feeling pretty good.
As for me, my 2nd Covid test came back negative today. Waiting on the antibody test.. so a good ending to this crazy ride.
He is at the hotel for another week I think (he was checked in last Friday I believe), so yeah. When he went back they told him he could either re-up for 10 days or 14 days since he was just at the hospital surrounded by other Covid patients. The Nurse/Medical staff will advise...
We live to fight another day, Glory to God, thank you to all the health workers that put their health/lives at risk everyday helping us fools that need it, God bless the EMT/Medic workers, the one that could see my brother needed oxygen and got him to the right hospital. Wear a mask and be safe out there folks!!!
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Post by ners on Nov 27, 2020 16:31:21 GMT -5
TheHaitian happy to hear your brother is doing better and your second test came back negative. Thanks for the update.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2020 16:40:33 GMT -5
Hey everyone, brother made a full turn yesterday. He woke up feeling better and was breathing much better on his on, he even reached the max on the breathing thing. So yesterday they lowered his oxygen and by the end of the day he was off it completely. The dr this morning felt he was well enough to be discharged and at about 1 PM arranged for him to be taken back to the hotel. Just spoke to him and he is at the hotel and still feeling pretty good. As for me, my 2nd Covid test came back negative today. Waiting on the antibody test.. so a good ending to this crazy ride. He is at the hotel for another week I think (he was checked in last Friday I believe), so yeah. When he went back they told him he could either re-up for 10 days or 14 days since he was just at the hospital surrounded by other Covid patients. The Nurse/Medical staff will advise... We live to fight another day, Glory to God, thank you to all the health workers that put their health/lives at risk everyday helping us fools that need it, God bless the EMT/Medic workers, the one that could see my brother needed oxygen and got him to the right hospital. Wear a mask and be safe out there folks!!! I am very happy for your brother, for you, and for the whole family
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Post by moon/Laura on Nov 27, 2020 16:55:29 GMT -5
Sorry to hear he needs oxygen. He is young and will recover. Sincerely hoping you don’t test positive . Good for you isolating from your vulnerable family. Can tell just In just this small group of people on the BB that COVID is more widespread now we are learning of people they know, themselves getting Covid. In the spring no one posting knew close people or themselves had Covid Thanks to God and all who are helping to bring us effective and safe vaccines so amazingly fast to rid ourselves of this plaque Take care all You do not know that! EXACTLY what I was going to say! Children have died, as have young and healthy adults. What the actual fuck? Why are you minimizing the seriousness of it? No one know how it will impact anyone because it's different for each person.
Editing to say that I'm glad he's doing better and that you're negative so far.
Editing again to add that my mother's former hospice nurse (a friend of mine for over 30 yrs) is currently caring for her father and her boyfriend, plus 4 of her neighbors that all got covid. My friend, her mother, and her aunt (who is developmentally disabled and lives with my friend's parents) have all tested negative, thank goodness. She texts me often to make sure I'm still being diligent.
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Post by pulmonarymd on Nov 27, 2020 17:15:20 GMT -5
EXACTLY what I was going to say! Children have died, as have young and healthy adults. What the actual fuck are you doing, minimizing the seriousness of it? No one know how it will impact anyone because it's different for each person.
Editing to say that I'm glad he's doing better and that you're negative so far.
Editing again to add that my mother's former hospice nurse (a friend of mine for over 30 yrs) is currently caring for her father and her boyfriend, plus 4 of her neighbors that all got covid. My friend, her mother, and her aunt (who is developmentally disabled and lives with my friend's parents) have all tested negative, thank goodness. She texts me often to make sure I'm still being diligent.
People act like there is no difference between “almost nobody” and nobody. If you are the one, it doesn’t matter that 99 others go fine. It is 100% to you. And somebody has to be the one. I hate when people act and say that everything is going to be ok. Seen to many people who “should” have survived die. You just never know
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Post by TheHaitian on Nov 27, 2020 18:55:18 GMT -5
Thank you everyone, appreciate the well wishes... we are thankful that we (my brother and everyone we know he may have exposed) made it out ok so far. Yes the consequences years down the road are still unknown, he is 29... what happens to his lungs at 59.
For now we are grateful he made it out of the hospital and back at the hotel. My cousin is doing well also, she has been back to 100% since last Friday; so her immune system took it way better than my brother.
Again thank you.
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Post by Ava on Nov 27, 2020 22:42:31 GMT -5
Thank you everyone, appreciate the well wishes... we are thankful that we (my brother and everyone we know he may have exposed) made it out ok so far. Yes the consequences years down the road are still unknown, he is 29... what happens to his lungs at 59. For now we are grateful he made it out of the hospital and back at the hotel. My cousin is doing well also, she has been back to 100% since last Friday; so her immune system took it way better than my brother. Again thank you. Glad your didn't catch the virus. Very good news that your brother is doing better.
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