Guess who has COVID?

[TheOtherMe]

Nov 21, 2020 13:40:34 GMT -5 NomoreDramaQ1015 said:

Nov 21, 2020 9:20:13 GMT -5 TheOtherMe said:

When I was exposed I was told to quarantine for 14 days and get tested on the 5 or 6th day so that is what I did.

Interesting.  Our company wants you tested ASAP and if you are negative get your ass back to work.   They had a person in one department come up positive on Friday.  That person's coworker was back on Tuesday because his test was negative.  That doesn't seem like near long enough since they say the 48 hours before you display symptoms is when you are the most infectious.  The co-worker barely had time to build up a viral load.

We'll see if they change their attitude after one person took out 95% of the staff here.

I called my doctor's office and that was the advice I was given.  My sister was being called daily by her county health department and that was what she was told, too.

[Happy prose]

Good luck Carl. I'll pray for you and your family. Covid just sucks.

[justme]

Nov 21, 2020 13:40:34 GMT -5 NomoreDramaQ1015 said:

Nov 21, 2020 9:20:13 GMT -5 TheOtherMe said:

When I was exposed I was told to quarantine for 14 days and get tested on the 5 or 6th day so that is what I did.

Interesting.  Our company wants you tested ASAP and if you are negative get your ass back to work.   They had a person in one department come up positive on Friday.  That person's coworker was back on Tuesday because his test was negative.  That doesn't seem like near long enough since they say the 48 hours before you display symptoms is when you are the most infectious.  The co-worker barely had time to build up a viral load.

We'll see if they change their attitude after one person took out 95% of the staff here.

I saw an article on a study that says 60%+ of those that were to go on to test positive were still testing negative 4 days after exposure. 

[raeoflyte]

Nov 21, 2020 15:05:21 GMT -5 TheOtherMe said:

Nov 21, 2020 13:40:34 GMT -5 NomoreDramaQ1015 said:

Interesting.  Our company wants you tested ASAP and if you are negative get your ass back to work.   They had a person in one department come up positive on Friday.  That person's coworker was back on Tuesday because his test was negative.  That doesn't seem like near long enough since they say the 48 hours before you display symptoms is when you are the most infectious.  The co-worker barely had time to build up a viral load.

We'll see if they change their attitude after one person took out 95% of the staff here.

I called my doctor's office and that was the advice I was given.  My sister was being called daily by her county health department and that was what she was told, too.

I'd say that's because its the right advice but dh's employer is like drama's. They were pissed when he used his own pto to extend his quarantine.

Thats when I start to get pissed about this idea that its up to everyone personally to keep ourselves safe when corporations can do infinitely more or betrer said, create most of the problem and expect individuals to fix it. It's like recycling. I can reduce, reuse, and recycle till I'm blue in the face and the world will still be drowning in plastic. If coke or pepsi stopped bottling in plastic we'd see real change in a year.

[justme]

Nov 21, 2020 15:59:19 GMT -5 raeoflyte said:

Nov 21, 2020 15:05:21 GMT -5 TheOtherMe said:

I called my doctor's office and that was the advice I was given.  My sister was being called daily by her county health department and that was what she was told, too.

I'd say that's because its the right advice but dh's employer is like drama's. They were pissed when he used his own pto to extend his quarantine.

Thats when I start to get pissed about this idea that its up to everyone personally to keep ourselves safe when corporations can do infinitely more or betrer said, create most of the problem and expect individuals to fix it. It's like recycling. I can reduce, reuse, and recycle till I'm blue in the face and the world will still be drowning in plastic. If coke or pepsi stopped bottling in plastic we'd see real change in a year.

It's similar to the meme's I see floating around every so often that bash the old "donate your PTO" to so and so colleague that has cancer. Instead of the company that makes millions of dollars doing something to help out their employee that would minimally affect their bottom line they ask other employees to give up their limited PTO time which greatly affects the employee's bottom line. 

[TheHaitian]

Nov 21, 2020 9:21:58 GMT -5 mamasita99 said:

I wonder where the isolation hotels are located. I live in DC and there are a couple hotels within a few blocks from me... believe me I don’t actually want to know, but now it gives me something to wonder about when I walk the dog past the hotels.

Actually a quick google search will give you a list of the hotels in DC that the government have used as quarantined sites :

dcist.com/story/20/04/23/more-than-200-residents-experiencing-homelessness-are-in-quarantine-at-five-d-c-hotels/

www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2020/08/07/dc-pays-millions-place-homeless-hotels-avoid-covid-19-many-rooms-are-empty-others-need-them/%3foutputType=amp


My brother is at the Capitol Skyline at Navy Yard in SW DC. The hotel doesn’t let anybody in except for guests that are going to be admitted or ambulance/ER people.

Security meets you at the door for deliveries and drop the items at the patients door. They have on staff a nurse and I found out today also a Dr (when inquired about my brother drugs/prescription). Patients are not allowed to leave their room and they can call directly to the nurse etc.

They provide 3 meals a day but you are able to have food delivered if you want to or groceries etc.

[TheHaitian]

Nov 20, 2020 22:13:50 GMT -5 Opti said:

Nov 20, 2020 22:10:25 GMT -5 weltschmerz said:

So seems DC has reserved Hotels across the district that are “Covid hotels” for situations just like ours where people cannot be isolated at home and risk infecting others.

Do you have to pay to stay there?

Don't know on the cost, but I believe NY did similar in March/April. You need places to isolate people. Hotels are also used by housing social programs for shortfalls and emergencies.

Yep, no different from government paying hotels for people that are homeless/awaiting section 8 housings etc.

I know a lot of the motels 6 in DC actually never accept “actual” guests or rarely because they are most of the time fully booked with people waiting for government housing / section 8 / homeless. The government pays the hotel directly.

I always assume at a higher rate than a regular rate since these people are sometimes there for weeks / months so harder on the rooms than guests that are there for a couple of days or a week.

I know when I was in Shrewsbury, MA a whole hotel down the road was booked by the government for refugees that were getting re-settled in that area and the government ran out of housing for them.

[TheHaitian]

Nov 21, 2020 13:46:42 GMT -5 The Walk of the Penguin Mich said:

Nov 21, 2020 9:21:58 GMT -5 mamasita99 said:

I wonder where the isolation hotels are located. I live in DC and there are a couple hotels within a few blocks from me... believe me I don’t actually want to know, but now it gives me something to wonder about when I walk the dog past the hotels.

I googled this info for Calgary, so I know it exists, and you pay.  I suspect if you can’t afford it, there is an alternative.  These are quarantine hotels for travelers. I think that there is a special price in place as you’d be there 14 days.

From everything I have read about needing to quarantine in Canada, they have a set of rules you need to comply and they can contact you randomly, and fine you if you are not where you are supposed to be.  

Not sure why you’d be worried about this.  These are people, quarantining in a set place.   The virus doesn’t jump through walls.  I’d be more worried about the person you are passing on the street walking their dog too than walking by a quarantine hotel.

 

Yep even looking at videos of travelers forced to quarantine in the UK or China etc... it is just like my brother: they are not allowed to leave that room and will be tested periodically before allowed to leave.

[mamasita99]

Nov 21, 2020 13:46:42 GMT -5 The Walk of the Penguin Mich said:

Nov 21, 2020 9:21:58 GMT -5 mamasita99 said:

I wonder where the isolation hotels are located. I live in DC and there are a couple hotels within a few blocks from me... believe me I don’t actually want to know, but now it gives me something to wonder about when I walk the dog past the hotels.

I googled this info for Calgary, so I know it exists, and you pay.  I suspect if you can’t afford it, there is an alternative.  These are quarantine hotels for travelers. I think that there is a special price in place as you’d be there 14 days.

From everything I have read about needing to quarantine in Canada, they have a set of rules you need to comply and they can contact you randomly, and fine you if you are not where you are supposed to be.  

Not sure why you’d be worried about this.  These are people, quarantining in a set place.   The virus doesn’t jump through walls.  I’d be more worried about the person you are passing on the street walking their dog too than walking by a quarantine hotel.

 

Not worried about it, I just meant that I don’t want try to be all nosy and find the info out. I’m sure it’s a lot safer than most other places open, that’s for sure! And I’m glad these places are available.

[TheHaitian]

Update: my mom is freaking out and want her baby to come home to her so she can take care of him. My brother call my mom worried, he pooped/pied on himself and spent ~2 hours in the shower because he could not find the energy to get up. Then was telling my mom if she thinks he is going to make it because he doesn’t feel like it. .. my step Dad and cousin that was at my house said that last part broke my Mom and she instantly got diarrhea ...

I told her.. and she knows better than anyone... he is only Leaving that room to go to the hospital. But she thinks she could take better care of him, at least give him tea, make sure he at least eats something, clean him up etc. basically Her and my cousin take turns taking care of him like they did when my step dad had it.

Also contact tracing on my mom part she thinks he got it from my cousin in DC. No one in jersey has it (she has contacted everyone or close to everyone he was around) and my cousin in DC started having symptoms last night: lost sense of taste and smell, minor body aches but no fever. She is home (she lives alone) and staying put. My mom is now worried about her because at least my brother has the nurse in the building, my cousin is by herself in her apartment no one will know if she is ok or not.

So now I have been made responsible to call my cousin every few hours to make sure she is also fine. This is a cluster... and I told my mom to stay put, she better not bring her ass to DC because there is nothing she can do.

[Lizard Queen]

OMG, that's how my mom was with my brother. That's gotta be maddening.

[CCL]

Nov 21, 2020 18:13:21 GMT -5 TheHaitian said:

Update: my mom is freaking out and want her baby to come home to her so she can take care of him. My brother call my mom worried, he pooped/pied on himself and spent ~2 hours in the shower because he could not find the energy to get up. Then was telling my mom if she thinks he is going to make it because he doesn’t feel like it. .. my step Dad and cousin that was at my house said that last part broke my Mom and she instantly got diarrhea ...

I told her.. and she knows better than anyone... he is only Leaving that room to go to the hospital. But she thinks she could take better care of him, at least give him tea, make sure he at least eats something, clean him up etc. basically Her and my cousin take turns taking care of him like they did when my step dad had it.

Also contact tracing on my mom part she thinks he got it from my cousin in DC. No one in jersey has it (she has contacted everyone or close to everyone he was around) and my cousin in DC started having symptoms last night: lost sense of taste and smell, minor body aches but no fever. She is home (she lives alone) and staying put. My mom is now worried about her because at least my brother has the nurse in the building, my cousin is by herself in her apartment no one will know if she is ok or not.

So now I have been made responsible to call my cousin every few hours to make sure she is also fine. This is a cluster... and I told my mom to stay put, she better not bring her ass to DC because there is nothing she can do.

Why can't your mom call your cousin herself? Seems like you have enough to worry about tending to your own family.

[TheHaitian]

Nov 21, 2020 21:55:58 GMT -5 CCL said:

Nov 21, 2020 18:13:21 GMT -5 TheHaitian said:

Update: my mom is freaking out and want her baby to come home to her so she can take care of him. My brother call my mom worried, he pooped/pied on himself and spent ~2 hours in the shower because he could not find the energy to get up. Then was telling my mom if she thinks he is going to make it because he doesn’t feel like it. .. my step Dad and cousin that was at my house said that last part broke my Mom and she instantly got diarrhea ...

I told her.. and she knows better than anyone... he is only Leaving that room to go to the hospital. But she thinks she could take better care of him, at least give him tea, make sure he at least eats something, clean him up etc. basically Her and my cousin take turns taking care of him like they did when my step dad had it.

Also contact tracing on my mom part she thinks he got it from my cousin in DC. No one in jersey has it (she has contacted everyone or close to everyone he was around) and my cousin in DC started having symptoms last night: lost sense of taste and smell, minor body aches but no fever. She is home (she lives alone) and staying put. My mom is now worried about her because at least my brother has the nurse in the building, my cousin is by herself in her apartment no one will know if she is ok or not.

So now I have been made responsible to call my cousin every few hours to make sure she is also fine. This is a cluster... and I told my mom to stay put, she better not bring her ass to DC because there is nothing she can do.

Why can't your mom call your cousin herself? Seems like you have enough to worry about tending to your own family.

Cousin is on my dad side so not related to my mom... and my mom did not like the fact when she called her this afternoon that she ask my mom: “why are you calling me” vs calling Carl.

My mom called her to ask her if she could make a special tea and drop it off for my brother since she lives 5 minutes away from the hotel and I am at work.

[CCL]

It seems like they are used to you taking care of everybody.

[bean29]

Carl, DH and I just had covid. I felt ill one night and was afraid I might collapse/be ill at same tun but other than that my symptoms were pretty mild. If Covid were not so contagious, I would have only missed about 2 days of work. DH was sicker than me but he closed his office to customers & kept going to work. I think your Mom is overreacting. Tell your Mom you will track his temp use the pulse oximeter daily. He will be well again shortly. We both get tired earlier, but we are getting stuff done here.

[irishpad]

Oh man, Carl.   I hope you and your family come through this without having received the virus.   Can you divorce your brother?   lol  

[TheHaitian]

Brother is headed back to the hospital, seems his stomach is hurting bad, the medication to ease the coughing is not helping and he thinks he tore something: now coughing blood. Also still cannot eat and feeling weak.

Now my mom informed me that she and my cousin will be driving to DC tomorrow morning to drop off some concoction for my brother. Yes doing the 4-5 hours drive to just drop a medication for him to consume and drive 4-5 hours back.

So I told her next time I am having a party or something for my daughter I better not hear her excuse, aka how she missed my daughter first birthday. She went in her feelings about how this is about life and death and not about a party, and how my brother called her crying about how he is in pain and is she going to let him die , etc etc. and how can I say that, he is my brother.

I said what I said and I meant it. So again, I will be waiting for the excuses when you miss future events in your granddaughter’s life. I even asked would she have done the drive if the role were reversed and I was the one with Covid!

I also informed the sperm donor that his favorite son was back in the hospital but he has his phone... not that he can talk because he cannot stop coughing and it gets worst when he tries to speak, so better to text him.

Time to open another bottle of wine tonight (last night was Chardonnay) or maybe move on to the hard stuff already!

[TheHaitian]

Nov 21, 2020 22:29:15 GMT -5 irishpad said:

Oh man, Carl.   I hope you and your family come through this without having received the virus.   Can you divorce your brother?   lol  

With all the headache he has caused me this year, I gladly would if I could and no one would be able to say nothing.

[weltschmerz]

Now my mom informed me that she and my cousin will be driving to DC tomorrow morning to drop off some concoction for my brother.

A concoction? What kind of concoction? Some healing thing, made of herbs and plants? The hospital isn't going to like that. At all.

[CCL]

How old his he anyway?

Sorry you are going through this. Hopefully your brother will get better quickly.

[CCL]

Nov 21, 2020 23:22:45 GMT -5 weltschmerz said:

Now my mom informed me that she and my cousin will be driving to DC tomorrow morning to drop off some concoction for my brother.

A concoction? What kind of concoction? Some healing thing, made of herbs and plants? The hospital isn't going to like that. At all.

I'm thinking Carl's mom is a nurse, so maybe she does have something with medicinal value she can give him. Or maybe the hospital won't even be told about it?

[Deleted]

I thought all hospitals are closed to visitors? 

[CCL]

They are around here (Indiana). I guess some places could be different.

[weltschmerz]

Nov 22, 2020 0:16:21 GMT -5 CCL said:

Nov 21, 2020 23:22:45 GMT -5 weltschmerz said:

Now my mom informed me that she and my cousin will be driving to DC tomorrow morning to drop off some concoction for my brother.

A concoction? What kind of concoction? Some healing thing, made of herbs and plants? The hospital isn't going to like that. At all.

I'm thinking Carl's mom is a nurse, so maybe she does have something with medicinal value she can give him. Or maybe the hospital won't even be told about it?

You'd be surprised at how these things with "medicinal values" can interact with whatever medicines they'll be pumping into him, and not in a good way. The staff will probably throw it out.
It's not a good idea.

[CCL]

Oh I know that. I don't think the hospital would like a patient bringing in their own "meds," but that doesn't mean patients won't try it and then not even mention it to the docs.

[TheHaitian]

Brother is being giving oxygen at the hospital now...

The concoction is basically tea with some herbs etc. my mom and the majority of my female cousins are nurses and believe in western medicine but when we get sick it we always seems to “stack the deck” using some old school concoction/tea/remedy that was past down from one generation to another or just basic cultural knowledge .

Example any self respecting Haitian have l’huile maskriti in their house or castor oil now that people use for their hair but back home you rub it over your body for either cold, burns, body aches, etc.

Second/third generation Haitian entrepreneurs now have found a way to
Market it and sell it to the general public now in different forms:

www.cbaa1976.com/shop/product/haitian-black-castor-oil-lhuile-de-ricinlwil-maskriti/

[laterbloomer]

So you're not going to isolate? You just lost all right to complain about people not wearing masks.

[TheHaitian]

I am not saying that it is right but it is that way for all immigrants.

When COVID just broke out, my old boss that was Indian was drinking some form of tea from back home, my customer service manager from Ethiopia was doing the same, my fresh foods manager form Nigeria similar and my MIL was getting different recipes from my mom and making tea for me.

We all sat down one day in the break room and decided to try each other teas and break it down, come to find out they were all somewhat similar with some variations : ginger tea with some lime/lemon or some of us eat the ginger etc.

Our own cultures / believes / superstitions biases that we carry with us wherever we may go.

[TheHaitian]

Nov 22, 2020 2:28:32 GMT -5 laterbloomer said:

So you're not going to isolate? You just lost all right to complain about people not wearing masks.

Been isolating in my basement since yesterday; got tested this morning. If my test come back negative (in 2-4 days) I have to go back to work or my company does not cover it.

They only cover more - up to 14 days, if my test comes back positive. Waiting...

Still no symptoms.


ETA : Also it is not like I can fake it, they (my job) basically give you papers to get filed out by your dr that are required for you to return to work (positive or negative).

[TheHaitian]

Nov 22, 2020 0:17:54 GMT -5 @shastasnewlife said:

I thought all hospitals are closed to visitors? 

My brother is at the hotel and is allowed to get deliveries (food/groceries/) or whatever you are having dropped off. You are basically using the hotel because you have no space to isolate at home ... they only provide the basic as a nurse on cal. Anything major all they do is call for an ambulance which you can do.

Ex tonight I had to call 911 for my brother because they nurse was not taking his concern seriously and told him he went to the hospital last night. Come to find out his oxygen level is all fucked up and is under oxygen now.