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Post by pulmonarymd on May 19, 2022 9:42:41 GMT -5
So. Do you have a problem with all presidential children who use their connections to cash out, or is it only Biden. Seems to me that all the Trump children and Kushner have done sketchy business deals. Ivanka has done a lot of business in China. Or is this just selective outrage. Hunter is not the president, nor is he likely to run for president. The Trump kids were not president and do not appear to be running. So if the are all corrupt, how does that matter? It is the emails that tie Joe to the deals that is the problem. That abd the WH denials Joe knew nothing about it. That's rich. There is a wealth of information that Trump has done a thousand times worse and for a longer period of time. Republican hypocrisy at its best. I didn't see you say anything about the trumps business dealings while they were in the White House. Since Biden has not done anything approaching what happened on 1/6, and Republicans seem to thing it was no big deal, I am willing to give most Democrats a pass. Sedition and attempting to overthrow a legitimate election is far more important. So, if conservatives do not care about that, why should I care about any of this.
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Post by djAdvocate on May 19, 2022 12:09:16 GMT -5
It is the emails that tie Joe to the deals that is the problem. That abd the WH denials Joe knew nothing about it. That's rich. There is a wealth of information that Trump has done a thousand times worse and for a longer period of time. Republican hypocrisy at its best. I didn't see you say anything about the trumps business dealings while they were in the White House. Since Biden has not done anything approaching what happened on 1/6, and Republicans seem to thing it was no big deal, I am willing to give most Democrats a pass. Sedition and attempting to overthrow a legitimate election is far more important. So, if conservatives do not care about that, why should I care about any of this. it is not hypocrisy, it is false equvalency. they don't actually CARE about the corruption. their votes prove it. their response is basically "everyone does this, and we do it better". you telling them that makes them smile. this is the way democracy ends. not with a bang but a whimper.
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Post by Tennesseer on May 19, 2022 14:03:56 GMT -5
Odd how you never have anything negative to say about the criminal trump cabal. Why is that?
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Post by billisonboard on May 19, 2022 14:24:42 GMT -5
From the link provided: ... Hunter Biden paid off his $2 million IRS bill. Paid off his bill. What a concept.
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Post by tbop77 on May 20, 2022 6:33:36 GMT -5
So. Do you have a problem with all presidential children who use their connections to cash out, or is it only Biden. Seems to me that all the Trump children and Kushner have done sketchy business deals. Ivanka has done a lot of business in China. Or is this just selective outrage. Hunter is not the president, nor is he likely to run for president. The Trump kids were not president and do not appear to be running. So if the are all corrupt, how does that matter? It is the emails that tie Joe to the deals that is the problem. That abd the WH denials Joe knew nothing about it. I guess you believed that Trump's kids met with Russians in Trump Tower before the election about adoption too, right? Trump lied right to your face. Got caught and no biggie.
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Post by pulmonarymd on May 20, 2022 9:30:38 GMT -5
Again. It’s ok if you are a Republican. They don’t care because it is their side. Part of the reason that there is a race to the bottom. When you have cawthorn, Greene, and Boebert being legitimately elected, having standards now is a handicap. Until they want better and effective representation, this will not stop. And since republicans think government is broken(and they broke and continue to break it), not sure how this gets better
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Post by djAdvocate on May 20, 2022 10:49:48 GMT -5
Again. It’s ok if you are a Republican. They don’t care because it is their side. Part of the reason that there is a race to the bottom. When you have cawthorn, Greene, and Boebert being legitimately elected, having standards now is a handicap. Until they want better and effective representation, this will not stop. And since republicans think government is broken(and they broke and continue to break it), not sure how this gets better the GOP is an anti-government insurgency. there are only TWO ways this ends: 1) massive reform on the part of the GOP 2) fascism i am voting for 2 at this point, because i don't see ANYONE talking about 1. edit: but somehow we have time to discuss the peril of Hunter Biden? it is to laugh.
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Post by Tennesseer on May 20, 2022 10:56:51 GMT -5
Again. It’s ok if you are a Republican. They don’t care because it is their side. Part of the reason that there is a race to the bottom. When you have cawthorn, Greene, and Boebert being legitimately elected, having standards now is a handicap. Until they want better and effective representation, this will not stop. And since republicans think government is broken(and they broke and continue to break it), not sure how this gets better the GOP is an anti-government insurgency. there are only TWO ways this ends: 1) massive reform on the part of the GOP 2) fascism i am voting for 2 at this point, because i don't see ANYONE talking about 1. edit: but somehow we have time to discuss the peril of Hunter Biden? it is to laugh. It's valuebuy so consider the source.
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Post by djAdvocate on May 20, 2022 15:08:37 GMT -5
it is VB and 30-40% of the US public.
here is what worries me- is that either through systematic exclusion, fear/intimidation, or boredom on the part of their competitors, the 40% get more votes.
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Post by scgal on May 20, 2022 16:46:32 GMT -5
It is the emails that tie Joe to the deals that is the problem. That abd the WH denials Joe knew nothing about it. I guess you believed that Trump's kids met with Russians in Trump Tower before the election about adoption too, right? Trump lied right to your face. Got caught and no biggie. If I remember right plenty was said on this board about Trumps kids so this is whataboutism? No matter what is said about this current administration some moron is going to say but Trump Trump Trump. Trump administration Obama administration etc are over why can't people deal with what is happening now
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Post by pulmonarymd on May 20, 2022 17:33:01 GMT -5
I guess you believed that Trump's kids met with Russians in Trump Tower before the election about adoption too, right? Trump lied right to your face. Got caught and no biggie. If I remember right plenty was said on this board about Trumps kids so this is whataboutism? No matter what is said about this current administration some moron is going to say but Trump Trump Trump. Trump administration Obama administration etc are over why can't people deal with what is happening now No, it is trump and his political cronies who keep bringing it up. And if we investigate hunter, we should investigate the trump kids too. That is what is being pointed out. The person who Kees this up said nothing about the trump kids. In addition, he has little to nothing to say about January 6. I find trying to overthrow sn election to be far more serious a matter to investigate. But republicans and Fox News keep bringing up hunter. They ignore the other issues
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Post by scgal on May 20, 2022 19:38:59 GMT -5
If I remember right plenty was said on this board about Trumps kids so this is whataboutism? No matter what is said about this current administration some moron is going to say but Trump Trump Trump. Trump administration Obama administration etc are over why can't people deal with what is happening now No, it is trump and his political cronies who keep bringing it up. And if we investigate hunter, we should investigate the trump kids too. That is what is being pointed out. The person who Kees this up said nothing about the trump kids. In addition, he has little to nothing to say about January 6. I find trying to overthrow sn election to be far more serious a matter to investigate. But republicans and Fox News keep bringing up hunter. They ignore the other issues The people on this board are the ones keep pushing what about Trump. Trump is old news nothing is going to happen to him. He will fade away like Hillary, Obama, Bush, Reagan etc....all these investigations against Trump will go no where it will keep being pushed on and on just a waste of money. The evidence for Jan 6 when looked at it objectively is slim at best, any incriminating evidence has been destroyed. This is all posturing on the Dems part for election purposes.
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Post by ken a.k.a OMK on May 20, 2022 19:48:52 GMT -5
I disagree about trump going away on his own. He is as dangerous or more so and unless the real GOP party gets out from under his influence we are in for more attacks on our Democracy.
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Post by billisonboard on May 20, 2022 20:12:23 GMT -5
No, it is trump and his political cronies who keep bringing it up. And if we investigate hunter, we should investigate the trump kids too. That is what is being pointed out. The person who Kees this up said nothing about the trump kids. In addition, he has little to nothing to say about January 6. I find trying to overthrow sn election to be far more serious a matter to investigate. But republicans and Fox News keep bringing up hunter. They ignore the other issues The people on this board are the ones keep pushing what about Trump. Trump is old news nothing is going to happen to him. He will fade away like Hillary, Obama, Bush, Reagan etc....all these investigations against Trump will go no where it will keep being pushed on and on just a waste of money. The evidence for Jan 6 when looked at it objectively is slim at best, any incriminating evidence has been destroyed. This is all posturing on the Dems part for election purposes. So there was evidence that showed Trump engaged in criminal activity but it was destroyed?
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Post by scgal on May 20, 2022 20:19:01 GMT -5
The people on this board are the ones keep pushing what about Trump. Trump is old news nothing is going to happen to him. He will fade away like Hillary, Obama, Bush, Reagan etc....all these investigations against Trump will go no where it will keep being pushed on and on just a waste of money. The evidence for Jan 6 when looked at it objectively is slim at best, any incriminating evidence has been destroyed. This is all posturing on the Dems part for election purposes. So there was evidence that showed Trump engaged in criminal activity but it was destroyed? no I should have said probably. I write like I would talk lol....
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Post by billisonboard on May 20, 2022 20:30:18 GMT -5
So there was evidence that showed Trump engaged in criminal activity but it was destroyed? no I should have said probably. I write like I would talk lol.... There is "probably" evidence or the existing evidence that incriminates him has "probably" been destroyed?
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Post by NastyWoman on May 20, 2022 21:55:53 GMT -5
No, it is trump and his political cronies who keep bringing it up. And if we investigate hunter, we should investigate the trump kids too. That is what is being pointed out. The person who Kees this up said nothing about the trump kids. In addition, he has little to nothing to say about January 6. I find trying to overthrow sn election to be far more serious a matter to investigate. But republicans and Fox News keep bringing up hunter. They ignore the other issues The people on this board are the ones keep pushing what about Trump. Trump is old news nothing is going to happen to him. He will fade away like Hillary, Obama, Bush, Reagan etc....all these investigations against Trump will go no where it will keep being pushed on and on just a waste of money. The evidence for Jan 6 when looked at it objectively is slim at best, any incriminating evidence has been destroyed. This is all posturing on the Dems part for election purposes. Maybe. But they are looking into those boxes and boxes of classified documents he "accidentally" schlepped to Florida when he left the WH ( as in he stole them). The National Archives are looking more boxes that are still MIA. And getting back to Hunter Biden, unless I am very much mistaken neither he nor his spouse are involved in politics or influencing the President as his official WH advisor (unlike some others in the last administration) I believe
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No, it is trump and his political cronies who keep bringing it up. And if we investigate hunter, we should investigate the trump kids too. That is what is being pointed out. The person who Kees this up said nothing about the trump kids. In addition, he has little to nothing to say about January 6. I find trying to overthrow sn election to be far more serious a matter to investigate. But republicans and Fox News keep bringing up hunter. They ignore the other issues The people on this board are the ones keep pushing what about Trump. Trump is old news nothing is going to happen to him. He will fade away like Hillary, Obama, Bush, Reagan etc....all these investigations against Trump will go no where it will keep being pushed on and on just a waste of money. The evidence for Jan 6 when looked at it objectively is slim at best, any incriminating evidence has been destroyed. This is all posturing on the Dems part for election purposes. So January 6 was no big deal? Trump didn’t encourage his followers to do something like this, and he did everything in his power to shut it down when it was clear it was a riot? Trump remains an issue, he is intimately involved in republican politics and keeps pushing the false narrative about stolen election. Unless you agree with him?
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Post by happyhoix on May 20, 2022 21:57:35 GMT -5
No, it is trump and his political cronies who keep bringing it up. And if we investigate hunter, we should investigate the trump kids too. That is what is being pointed out. The person who Kees this up said nothing about the trump kids. In addition, he has little to nothing to say about January 6. I find trying to overthrow sn election to be far more serious a matter to investigate. But republicans and Fox News keep bringing up hunter. They ignore the other issues The people on this board are the ones keep pushing what about Trump. Trump is old news nothing is going to happen to him. He will fade away like Hillary, Obama, Bush, Reagan etc....all these investigations against Trump will go no where it will keep being pushed on and on just a waste of money. The evidence for Jan 6 when looked at it objectively is slim at best, any incriminating evidence has been destroyed. This is all posturing on the Dems part for election purposes. If he would stick with golf and stop running around calling himself the MAGA king no one would be talking about him. Do you know a way to make him STFU?
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The people on this board are the ones keep pushing what about Trump. Trump is old news nothing is going to happen to him. He will fade away like Hillary, Obama, Bush, Reagan etc....all these investigations against Trump will go no where it will keep being pushed on and on just a waste of money. The evidence for Jan 6 when looked at it objectively is slim at best, any incriminating evidence has been destroyed. This is all posturing on the Dems part for election purposes. Maybe. But they are looking into those boxes and boxes of classified documents he "accidentally" schlepped to Florida when he left the WH ( as in he stole them). The National Archives are looking more boxes that are still MIA. And getting back to Hunter Biden, unless I am very much mistaken neither he nor his spouse are involved in politics or influencing the President as his official WH advisor (unlike some others in the last administration) I believe Yeah the Mar a Lago documents thing is becoming interesting. I thought originally that he was just sloppy and had someone pack up whatever was sitting around his office when he left - but no, after reviewing all the boxes stacked at Mar A Lago, he was evidentially selectively stashing documents over some period of time - documents that he might have taken because he saw they could possibly be financially useful to him. So he didn’t just accidentally pick up some classified documents - he stole classified government documents he thought he could use to his financial advantage.
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The people on this board are the ones keep pushing what about Trump. Trump is old news nothing is going to happen to him. He will fade away like Hillary, Obama, Bush, Reagan etc....all these investigations against Trump will go no where it will keep being pushed on and on just a waste of money. The evidence for Jan 6 when looked at it objectively is slim at best, any incriminating evidence has been destroyed. This is all posturing on the Dems part for election purposes. So January 6 was no big deal? Trump didn’t encourage his followers to do something like this, and he did everything in his power to shut it down when it was clear it was a riot? Trump remains an issue, he is intimately involved in republican politics and keeps pushing the false narrative about stolen election. Unless you agree with him? I didn't say it wasn't a big deal. There is no way in hell that Trump will be held accountable for it other than in the minds of people who dislike him. He never said go storm the capitol, that is what will be needed and it is not there. Stolen election ehhhh I think there is plenty of election fraud going on, on both sides actually stolen nah it's over he should get on with it and so should everyone else. By that I mean everyone.
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Post by scgal on May 21, 2022 6:58:29 GMT -5
The people on this board are the ones keep pushing what about Trump. Trump is old news nothing is going to happen to him. He will fade away like Hillary, Obama, Bush, Reagan etc....all these investigations against Trump will go no where it will keep being pushed on and on just a waste of money. The evidence for Jan 6 when looked at it objectively is slim at best, any incriminating evidence has been destroyed. This is all posturing on the Dems part for election purposes. If he would stick with golf and stop running around calling himself the MAGA king no one would be talking about him. Do you know a way to make him STFU? Just because he runs his mouth big deal, or is it because he keeps people riled up against the dems? I don't remember the correct saying but goes something like this. Only you can give the power to someone over you. He gets into dems heads and takes up free parking. Actually quite comical
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Post by pulmonarymd on May 21, 2022 7:53:32 GMT -5
So January 6 was no big deal? Trump didn’t encourage his followers to do something like this, and he did everything in his power to shut it down when it was clear it was a riot? Trump remains an issue, he is intimately involved in republican politics and keeps pushing the false narrative about stolen election. Unless you agree with him? I didn't say it wasn't a big deal. There is no way in hell that Trump will be held accountable for it other than in the minds of people who dislike him. He never said go storm the capitol, that is what will be needed and it is not there. Stolen election ehhhh I think there is plenty of election fraud going on, on both sides actually stolen nah it's over he should get on with it and so should everyone else. By that I mean everyone. Trump may not be legally held accountable, but he is morally responsible, he set the stage, encouraged the belief that the election was stolen, and did nothing when it happened to stop it. You are both siding this. There is no proof of widespread election fraud anywhere. If you believe it to be do, prove it. Is bien the legitimately elected president or not?
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If he would stick with golf and stop running around calling himself the MAGA king no one would be talking about him. Do you know a way to make him STFU? Just because he runs his mouth big deal, or is it because he keeps people riled up against the dems? I don't remember the correct saying but goes something like this. Only you can give the power to someone over you. He gets into dems heads and takes up free parking. Actually quite comical It’s shocking that you think Trump is merely being a buffoon. He came up with a very clear plan in 2020, when he couldn’t coerce the SOS and governors of the swing states that went against him to throw out the legitimate vote and send a new set of electors to DC to vote for him. He’s been going after the current SOS and governors (even the GOP ones) with a literal vengeance - because he’s not an advocate of the GOP, he’s only ever thinking of Trump. Next he runs for office again in 2024, with his hand selected state minions in place. He rolls over the disorganized GOP candidates the same way he did in 2016, and this time if he loses the popular count and electoral count he’ll have his hand picked state minions who toss out not the WHOLE vote, but to cherry pick certain counties that are urban and heavy with Dem voters. Final leg of the plot - pick a VP he can be certain will march into Congress and, in a shocking and unpatriotic act, send the votes from states that didn’t go for him back to the states to ‘fix’ - certainly sparking a new civil war. We’re dangerously close to a populist dictatorship. The fact that anyone could think Trump is just a bumbling has been is terrifying.
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Post by tbop77 on May 21, 2022 8:38:56 GMT -5
If he would stick with golf and stop running around calling himself the MAGA king no one would be talking about him. Do you know a way to make him STFU? Just because he runs his mouth big deal, or is it because he keeps people riled up against the dems? I don't remember the correct saying but goes something like this. Only you can give the power to someone over you. He gets into dems heads and takes up free parking. Actually quite comical I guess I see it differently. It's not comical at all that people who call themselves conservatives could support, much less defend his actions. If that is what you think America is about, who is the moron?
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Post by ken a.k.a OMK on May 21, 2022 8:46:58 GMT -5
Use the same standard, or lack of standard, used for trump and his family and administration, and I'm fine for anything Clinton or Biden did.
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Post by Value Buy on May 21, 2022 8:53:31 GMT -5
Use the same standard, or lack of standard, used for trump and his family and administration, and I'm fine for anything Clinton or Biden did. I am sure you are. Are you familiar with two wrongs do not make it right? Are there still ongoing investigations on Trump's kids, or did the investigations die? If there are, then the case is still open, correct?
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Post by ken a.k.a OMK on May 21, 2022 9:00:29 GMT -5
trump was right about one thing, he'll never be found guilty of anything. There will be one trumper on every jury. I don't equate trumps narcistic actions to anything Clinton or Biden did.
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