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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2020 17:23:17 GMT -5
Didn't see a thread on polls, good time to start one. Average of all national polls stands at; Trump 44% Biden 49% www.bing.com/search?q=election%202020&FORM=ELEWPT Haven't really paid attention till now, but isn't the gap narrowing from back a ways ?
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Post by thyme4change on Sept 17, 2020 17:24:35 GMT -5
Nationwide polls mean nothing because a large number of people's votes don't count.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2020 17:29:04 GMT -5
Nationwide polls mean nothing because a large number of people's votes don't count. I agree with that. I use the average of all the major polls as a general indicator of what's going on. So far trumps getting the
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Excellent link ! Of course I'm a charts and graphs type of guy.
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Post by chiver78 on Sept 18, 2020 10:10:51 GMT -5
I posted this link in another thread, it's a commentary on the pollster's corrections to their algorithms after last election. not an unbiased piece, but some background on how the polls are being conducted this time vs previous years. link
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Post by billisonboard on Sept 18, 2020 10:17:15 GMT -5
Excellent link ! Of course I'm a charts and graphs type of guy. Interactive is especially cool to me. I thought it was interesting how when you filter out average/below average pollsters which numbers disappear from the "net results" column. Wish it would alter the graph at the top of the page.
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Post by flan327 on Sept 18, 2020 13:08:29 GMT -5
I honestly don't pay much attention to polls
I know who I'm voting for
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Post by thyme4change on Sept 18, 2020 13:21:50 GMT -5
I honestly don't pay much attention to polls I know who I'm voting for That isn't a unique position. This thread should bore you if that is your best response.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2020 15:30:31 GMT -5
Excellent link ! Of course I'm a charts and graphs type of guy. Interactive is especially cool to me. I thought it was interesting how when you filter out average/below average pollsters which numbers disappear from the "net results" column. Wish it would alter the graph at the top of the page. I will be using your link as the campaigns progress.
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Post by flan327 on Sept 18, 2020 17:38:24 GMT -5
I honestly don't pay much attention to polls I know who I'm voting for That isn't a unique position. This thread should bore you if that is your best response. Oh I'm sorry that I am not bored. I like to try and figure out how other people think. Exchange of ideas and all that...
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 19, 2020 11:54:10 GMT -5
Didn't see a thread on polls, good time to start one. Average of all national polls stands at; Trump 44% Biden 49% www.bing.com/search?q=election%202020&FORM=ELEWPT Haven't really paid attention till now, but isn't the gap narrowing from back a ways ? it depends on your starting point.
prior to mid-April, it was closer than this. in July, Biden lead by 9%. the "average of all polls" is tracked at 538 and RCP. it is closer to 7% right now than 5%, and YES, that is some narrowing.
as i have pointed out on the presidential thread, Biden has lost approximately 0%, but Trump has gained approximately 2% in the last month or so. if the trend continues, it will be very close, but i don't see that happening, for reasons i discussed on that thread.
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 19, 2020 12:02:28 GMT -5
I honestly don't pay much attention to polls I know who I'm voting for polls SHOULD have noting to do with who YOU are voting for. they tell you how OTHERS are voting.
and that is important for a bunch of reasons. more competitive states, the harder it is to predict the outcome- and that is not just because of the obvious (the narrowness of the vote), but because resources from campaign will have to flow into those states, which will further influence outcome.
lots of people dislike polling. lots of people dislike gambling. lots of people dislike sports. but just as many people like all three.
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 19, 2020 12:03:41 GMT -5
I posted this link in another thread, it's a commentary on the pollster's corrections to their algorithms after last election. not an unbiased piece, but some background on how the polls are being conducted this time vs previous years. linki highly recommend this article. /\ it is one of the best surveys of polling and oddsmaking i have ever read during any campaign in my lifetime.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2020 9:06:14 GMT -5
Didn't see a thread on polls, good time to start one. Average of all national polls stands at; Trump 44% Biden 49% www.bing.com/search?q=election%202020&FORM=ELEWPT Haven't really paid attention till now, but isn't the gap narrowing from back a ways ? it depends on your starting point.
prior to mid-April, it was closer than this. in July, Biden lead by 9%. the "average of all polls" is tracked at 538 and RCP. it is closer to 7% right now than 5%, and YES, that is some narrowing.
as i have pointed out on the presidential thread, Biden has lost approximately 0%, but Trump has gained approximately 2% in the last month or so. if the trend continues, it will be very close, but i don't see that happening, for reasons i discussed on that thread.
There hasn't been any debates yet and I'm interested in what is going to come out with those. Although those polling bounces don't seem to be very long lived after debates.
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Post by billisonboard on Sept 20, 2020 9:19:30 GMT -5
it depends on your starting point.
prior to mid-April, it was closer than this. in July, Biden lead by 9%. the "average of all polls" is tracked at 538 and RCP. it is closer to 7% right now than 5%, and YES, that is some narrowing.
as i have pointed out on the presidential thread, Biden has lost approximately 0%, but Trump has gained approximately 2% in the last month or so. if the trend continues, it will be very close, but i don't see that happening, for reasons i discussed on that thread.
There hasn't been any debates yet and I'm interested in what is going to come out with those. Although those polling bounces don't seem to be very long lived after debates. I am glad that debate bounces don't last. There is no correlation between doing well in a modern televised debate and doing well as the President.
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 20, 2020 19:19:24 GMT -5
it depends on your starting point.
prior to mid-April, it was closer than this. in July, Biden lead by 9%. the "average of all polls" is tracked at 538 and RCP. it is closer to 7% right now than 5%, and YES, that is some narrowing.
as i have pointed out on the presidential thread, Biden has lost approximately 0%, but Trump has gained approximately 2% in the last month or so. if the trend continues, it will be very close, but i don't see that happening, for reasons i discussed on that thread.
There hasn't been any debates yet and I'm interested in what is going to come out with those. Although those polling bounces don't seem to be very long lived after debates. Trump has pretty much "lost" every debate he has taken part in. I don't expect him to gain much from the debates. in fact, if it were me, I would not even hold them. but he probably relishes the chance to unleash his distain on Biden.
having said that, I doubt the debates will HURT him. his presence in the nominating convention was widely regarded as worse than Biden's, but he gained 1-2% from it.
again, the main reasons I think he won't gain much between now in the election have nothing to do with any of this. this electorate is pretty boiled in at this point. there is loathing and fear on both sides that make for a very inflexible vote.
my opinion, of course.
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There hasn't been any debates yet and I'm interested in what is going to come out with those. Although those polling bounces don't seem to be very long lived after debates. Trump has pretty much "lost" every debate he has taken part in. I don't expect him to gain much from the debates. in fact, if it were me, I would not even hold them. but he probably relishes the chance to unleash his distain on Biden.
having said that, I doubt the debates will HURT him. his presence in the nominating convention was widely regarded as worse than Biden's, but he gained 1-2% from it.
again, the main reasons I think he won't gain much between now in the election have nothing to do with any of this. this electorate is pretty boiled in at this point. there is loathing and fear on both sides that make for a very inflexible vote.
my opinion, of course.
Which I'm agreeing.
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Post by happyhoix on Sept 21, 2020 12:30:29 GMT -5
They should attach electrodes to both of them and shock them when they tell a lie.
Whoever survives the longest wins the election.
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Post by thyme4change on Sept 21, 2020 15:34:27 GMT -5
They should attach electrodes to both of them and shock them when they tell a lie. Whoever survives the longest wins the election. 🤣🤣 I am in!!
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Post by flan327 on Sept 22, 2020 7:03:08 GMT -5
They should attach electrodes to both of them and shock them when they tell a lie. Whoever survives the longest wins the election. That's a no brainer...
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Post by thyme4change on Sept 22, 2020 12:37:32 GMT -5
They should attach electrodes to both of them and shock them when they tell a lie. Whoever survives the longest wins the election. That's a no brainer... This assumes that both of them are human. I don't know how many amps it takes to kill a vampire, reptilian, robot or whatever else these two could possibly be.
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Post by flan327 on Sept 22, 2020 15:19:39 GMT -5
This assumes that both of them are human. I don't know how many amps it takes to kill a vampire, reptilian, robot or whatever else these two could possibly be. Imho, they are OBVIOUSLY both human One is a brain dead conman One is a gentleman who loves his family and his country 🍮
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I'll be voting for the gentleman who loves his family. The groping con-man will return to the private life.
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huh? really?
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Post by pulmonarymd on Sept 22, 2020 17:25:03 GMT -5
I guess he is voting for Biden. Trump is obviously the groping con man, as he so proudly said.😀
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Post by thyme4change on Sept 22, 2020 18:10:35 GMT -5
Were either of these people ever private?
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Post by flan327 on Sept 22, 2020 18:57:10 GMT -5
Were either of these people ever private? Americans are notoriously nosy... I know that Biden had a severe stutter but figured out himself how to get better. Everyone has skeletons in his or her closet Are they major or minor?
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Post by djAdvocate on Sept 22, 2020 19:00:40 GMT -5
I guess he is voting for Biden. Trump is obviously the groping con man, as he so proudly said.😀 I wouldn't put it past him. Biden is no wild eyed liberal, despite what Trump says. Biden of 2020 could have run as a Republican 30 years ago.
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